Halloween 4K UHD (1978)

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

But how far are we going with that "I wonder if...?" line, Sweetie? I wonder if the filmmaker truly liked/wanted grain? I wonder if the filmmaker wanted colour rather than black and white? It just depends on how far we're comfortable with rationalising these things and I'm not one to play that game, not any more. I've made my peace with HDR doing its thang, just as with transfers from negative providing dat sweet sweet detail, and if it happens to line up with what I've read in American Cinematographer or whatever (Vilmos Zsigmond's original 1978 piece on The Deer Hunter was very interesting reading after having just watched the UHD, 'interesting' in a good way I should add) then fine, if it doesn't then as long as it's not a Friedkin'ed pastel nightmare or has overt technical problems caused by the HDR then I'm good.

How about 2.0:1 ratios for all!

[IntelliVolume]

Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

JAWS is out on DVD?

Do you remember that, though?

Wow, the battles that ensued on boards like Home Theater Forum because purists couldn't believe the mono track of the film was "messed with" to create the 5.1 DTS and DD surround mixes and that the mono mix wasn't included along side em...

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

How about 2.0:1 ratios for all!

Storaroooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

Do you remember that, though?

Wow, the battles that ensued on boards like Home Theater Forum because purists couldn't believe the mono track of the film was "messed with" to create the 5.1 DTS and DD surround mixes and that the mono mix wasn't included along side em...

The full lengh doc was the bigger issue

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Storaroooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And top gun weirdly

[ROSS.T.G.]

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

Do you remember that, though?

Wow, the battles that ensued on boards like Home Theater Forum because purists couldn't believe the mono track of the film was "messed with" to create the 5.1 DTS and DD surround mixes and that the mono mix wasn't included along side em...

I certainly do. It’s the debate that keeps on giving. I personally love Atmos, would love for Halloween to receive it but I also want the original track since I’ll like watch my copy dozens of times I would alternate.

[IntelliVolume]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

The full lengh doc was the bigger issue

What do you mean? The inclusion or exclusion of it?

I own the DTS "Anniversary Edition" version of the DVD (the DD and DTS variants were sold separately per Universal's policy back then) and can't remember if there was a full-length documentary on it...I think it had some notes by Spielberg or something if I recall correctly...

[IntelliVolume]

Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

I certainly do. It’s the debate that keeps on giving. I personally love Atmos, would love for Halloween to receive it but I also want the original track since I’ll like watch my copy dozens of times I would alternate.

I totally respect the purists for wanting the original audio (of any title), and I would think it would be best to include the most number of tracks to satisfy all camps (given compression limits and such)...however I personally always select a surround remix when available, as it's just my preference. To me, if done correctly, a surround remix sourced from original audio stems can sound very much like the legacy sound design but add some environmental effect that is most pleasing...

A good example of this is, of course, the original Halloween that we're discussing...the Chace surround remix prepared for the THX DVD was done right, not crushing the "charm" of the original mono yet adding subtle cues where appropriate (the rain, some punchy LFE, etc.). I found the same with Jaws and even 1979's Amityville Horror (on the MGM Special Edition DVD release of Amityville Horror, as included in the Amityville Horror Collection box set which I own, an added Dolby Digital 5.1 surround track was placed alongside the original 2.0 mono, and that's always my preferred go-to mix, as it adds shotgun and rain effects into the surrounds that really "up" the experience of the film IMO compared to the mono track).

Now, some remixes just go hog-wild and do a disservice to original audio stems, I will concede -- but if done correctly and with some restraint, I think surround audio can work with some older titles we're used to hearing in mono.

[steev210]

Sorry if this was posted already...

John Carpenter's Halloween is getting re-released to theaters for its 40th Anniversary starting September 27th courtesy of CineLifeEntertainment in association with Compass International Pictures and Trancas International Films.

This will be the restored and remastered 4K digital print which was supervised by Dean Cundey and streets on 4K UHD on 9/25.

What a time to be a Halloween fan - seeing Carpenter's classic on the big screen again, followed by one of the most anticipated sequels in the franchise three weeks later. Not to mention Lionsgate's 4K UHD release, and Scream Factory's 4K remasters of Halloween II and Halloween III on blu-ray!

SOURCE, trailer and list of cities/theaters:


https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/...heaters-month/

[Cherokee Jack]

Originally Posted by steev210

Sorry if this was posted already...

John Carpenter's Halloween is getting re-released to theaters for its 40th Anniversary starting September 27th courtesy of CineLifeEntertainment in association with Compass International Pictures and Trancas International Films.

This will be the restored and remastered 4K digital print which was supervised by Dean Cundey and streets on 4K UHD on 9/25.

What a time to be a Halloween fan - seeing Carpenter's classic on the big screen again, followed by one of the most anticipated sequels in the franchise three weeks later. Not to mention Lionsgate's 4K UHD release, and Scream Factory's 4K remasters of Halloween II and Halloween III on blu-ray!

SOURCE, trailer and list of cities/theaters:


https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/...heaters-month/

Ooh, this is coming to my neck of the woods. Need to start working on convincing my GF to see it ASAP.

Actual list of cities showing it on this page btw: http://www.cinelifeentertainment.com...h-anniversary/

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by steev210

Sorry if this was posted already...

John Carpenter's Halloween is getting re-released to theaters for its 40th Anniversary starting September 27th courtesy of CineLifeEntertainment in association with Compass International Pictures and Trancas International Films.

This will be the restored and remastered 4K digital print which was supervised by Dean Cundey and streets on 4K UHD on 9/25.

What a time to be a Halloween fan - seeing Carpenter's classic on the big screen again, followed by one of the most anticipated sequels in the franchise three weeks later. Not to mention Lionsgate's 4K UHD release, and Scream Factory's 4K remasters of Halloween II and Halloween III on blu-ray!

SOURCE, trailer and list of cities/theaters:


https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/...heaters-month/

Soooo... is this possibly some sort of confirmation that the UHD Blu-ray is sourced from this same 4k restoration supervised by Dean Cundey?

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Colson

Any other examples of this? I'd love to see it; sounds hilarious, honestly.

I'll try to remember which titles I've seen this happen in. It's awful, because it looks hilariously bad, like it makes the film makers look like complete idiots, except it's not their fault because when timed properly as day-for-night, it works.

I always hated day-for-night but I get why they did it. These days I hate it for a different reason - the blu-ray releases sometimes screw it up!

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

Why do you have to act like this when you disagree? It’s fine that you don’t agree with what he’s saying but can’t you just converse respectfully instead of acting like you do? I agree with a lot of what you say sometimes but man you need a lesson in people skills.

If everyone would just put him on ignore, he'd have nobody to insult, and then maybe he'd go away.

And if people would stop quoting him, I wouldn't have to see his posts even though he's on my ignore list.

He's just an abrasive, toxic person.

[eternalbiz]

I imagine Halloween (2018) will get a SteelBook release. Since this is coming out in 4k what are the chances of a 4k SteelBook to this movie coming out? I wish I knew. I'd pass on the FYE exclusive SteelBook if so.

[bigrob]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

Soooo... is this possibly some sort of confirmation that the UHD Blu-ray is sourced from this same 4k restoration supervised by Dean Cundey?

by all accounts there was a new 4K restoration done as it was premiered at London Frightfest last month.

[ambient_indie]

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

Do you remember that, though?

Wow, the battles that ensued on boards like Home Theater Forum because purists couldn't believe the mono track of the film was "messed with" to create the 5.1 DTS and DD surround mixes and that the mono mix wasn't included along side em...

I haven't forgotten...but we have it on the blu-ray.


The 5.1 is atrocious. A whole new movie experience.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

Soooo... is this possibly some sort of confirmation that the UHD Blu-ray is sourced from this same 4k restoration supervised by Dean Cundey?

Hmmm. New 4K restoration supervised by Cundey is followed by a new 4K UHD release? I'm sure there's no link between the two whatsoever

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Hmmm. New 4K restoration supervised by Cundey is followed by a new 4K UHD release? I'm sure there's no link between the two whatsoever

Cheeky monkey.

[Jimllfaxit]

I wonder if Dean Candy has changed the colour timing again. I thought that the 35th anniversary looked really nice but the odd scene looked a little too muted.

[ROSS.T.G.]

Originally Posted by Jimllfaxit

I wonder if Dean Candy has changed the colour timing again. I thought that the 35th anniversary looked really nice but the odd scene looked a little too muted.

I hope Dean Candy wasn't allowed near the building since he wasn't the DP

[Jimllfaxit]

Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

I hope Dean Candy wasn't allowed near the building since he wasn't the DP

Lol. I'm thinking of John Cundy.The guy in Uncle Buck