New Friday The 13th (Reboot)

[saprano]

These threads need a better job done of updating the OP with the latest information on whatever is going on. I enter too many threads and read things from years ago that's no longer relevant.

[mpstjohn]

Originally Posted by thewerepuppygrr

The trouble is, none of those films you've mentioned fit with the lurid popcorniness so inherent to a Friday the 13th film. If A24 wanted to make their own spin on a slasher then fair play, but they've done nothing that indicates that that would be a good fit for them. The closest they've gotten was Green Room but even that is more of a thriller than anything else.

It would be a first for them, I agree. It felt to me that the things that the Platinum Dunes remake did that stuck to the popcorniness of F13 were some of the same the critics and fans criticized. Because their remake is very much Friday the 13th, albeit an abridged version of the first three films. It did its job well enough and didn't fall into the pitfalls that the Hitcher, Prom Night and When A Stranger Calls remakes did. These days, particularly with the cynicism of social media, a straight up remake of those films, as we got in 2009 would be torn apart. If I thought it could go unattacked by audiences and critics I'd say give us that Friday the 13th sequel I've been waiting for for 9 years now. Alternatively, split the difference and give us something that captures the story but gives us a more serious and intense bit of genre fare.

The problem is even in their heyday the Friday the 13th movies were hated by critics. I would have loved sequels to both the Friday and Elm Street remake from Platinum Dunes as I feel they did a lot right, from tone to casting to sticking to an R rating. If they can't go completely emulate the elements of the original maybe approaching the material from a more suspense driven and serious angle is what they have left. I don't want these films to be over. We aren't remaking The Shining or The Exorcist here, we are carrying on a slasher franchise from a filmmaker who wanted only to make the scariest movie he could, not the most meaningful piece of artwork or social commentary. If he was fine with it being a franchise and perpetual one at that, why shouldn't I be too? I love the movies myself and would love to see more of them.

[CelluloidPal]

Originally Posted by Zillamon51

Another Friday the 13th with no new movie to watch, and nothing on the horizon.

The ball is in Michael's court. I would guess that if Halloween 2018 is a big hit, that could jumpstart the Friday franchise. So let's hope the legalities surrounding the property are cleared up soon.

We were supposed to get a new one already. The director and writers were all locked in ready to go, but Paramount wussed out after Rings tanked and didn't go forward with it. You'd think with A Quiet Place being such a huge hit, they would reconsider it but I don't see it happening.
They way I understand it, if Paramount didn't make a new film by a certain time frame, the rights would revert back to the original creators. And if that's the case, they can go to whomever (Blumhouse, presumably) that'll be more than happy to do a new one.

Originally Posted by cinemaphile

Well it had its flaws, I also enjoyed Texas Chainsaw 3D, more than the 1974 original, that's for sure.

If you enjoyed that one, it's cool but the flaws you're referring to, I'll add inconsistencies, plot holes big enough to fly a 747 through and overall lack of logic.

[mpstjohn]

Originally Posted by CelluloidPal

We were supposed to get a new one already. The director and writers were all locked in ready to go, but Paramount wussed out after Rings tanked and didn't go forward with it. You'd think with A Quiet Place being such a huge hit, they would reconsider it but I don't see it happening.

They way I understand it, if Paramount didn't make a new film by a certain time frame, the rights would revert back to the original creators. And if that's the case, they can go to whomever (Blumhouse, presumably) that'll be more than happy to do a new one.

This reminds me of Disney dropping Tron 3 because of the box office failure of Tomorrowland, in both cases the failure of one doesn't discount the audience for the other. Rings failed because it was a bad movie and the majority of that audience wasn't willing to wait 12 years for a follow up (let alone one without Naomi Watts). There have internationally been 10 Ring films (only 2 of which were made in the US prior to Rings), so the audience isn't there anymore.

On the other hand, a slasher franchise with 12 entries, all made in the US does have an audience, it was foolish of them to use the success of Rings to gauge how F13 would do (and from the sound of things at least one of their scripts would've made a fantastic thirteenth film). It seems Platinum Dunes will go the way of Dark Castle Productions for now and favor new over remakes as was their original intent.

[GasmaskAvenger]

Honestly, either A24 or Neon producing a Friday the 13th film would be a bold, exciting move as you know they would do something special with the franchise...and wouldn't suck.

A Blumhouse or Millennium produced Friday the 13th has much greater odds to blow ass, if you ask me.

[CelluloidPal]

Originally Posted by GasmaskAvenger

Honestly, either A24 or Neon producing a Friday the 13th film would be a bold, exciting move as you know they would do something special with the franchise...and wouldn't suck.

A Blumhouse or Millennium produced Friday the 13th has much greater odds to blow ass, if you ask me.

If it were to return to the Mario Bava feel of the original, I would agree there but wouldn't put too much stock on Neon or A24 being the savior. As much as I like them, they've had a few misses too.
Millennium is more of this generation's Cannon Films and Blumhouse is more in the Corman category.

[GasmaskAvenger]

A more Mario Bava style Friday the 13th that also retains Jason as the killer would be top-notch.

Could make for a cool reintroduction for the Big J. Just hope Victor Miller realizes his lawsuit would do more harm than good and backs the hell off so we can get more films. Him winning is a "Disney owning 20th Century Fox" size disaster.

[Samus Aran]

The judge granted summary judgment in favor of Victor Miller, citing that the script wasn’t a work for hire or prepared within scope of employment, and that Miller was an independent contractor and not an employee.

As it stands, barring settlement or appeal, Miller could have domestic rights and producers could have international rights where termination recapture isn't applied.

As much as screenwriters tend to get crapped on by everyone in a position of power, and creators of original property get screwed over by their company, I personally feel like this is a bit of BS since Jason and Friday the 13th as we know it now has nothing to do with Miller. However, the judge also mentioned that there could be future copyright claims on adult Jason vs. child Jason.

Hollywood Reporter article here

[Poya]

All this for a series known to be silly.

[JamesKurtovich]

Bring back the Kane Hodder Jason.

[CyberpunkCentral]

Originally Posted by Samus Aran

However, the judge also mentioned that there could be future copyright claims on adult Jason vs. child Jason.

[NI-Gunner]

Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

Based on what I've read this just means Miller will get a better deal than he would have, but for anyone to make money there will have to be a deal or they both lose. Miller will have the US rights but none of the material people want to see ie. Adult Jason. Cunningham will have the International Rights without Jason's origin. Essentially Miller could only make a movie based on Pamela and Child Jason for the US market, and lets face it, no production company would be particularly interested in. Meanwhile Cunningham could only make an Adult Jason movie for foreign markets.

They'll be forced to agree on a deal OR they sell their individual rights to the same person/company and then THEY could add them back together to make a new film.

It's just a pain in the ass because it delays everything

The even worse part is that other writer's will see this case and try to get more money for stuff they did decades ago and this will happen with other, even bigger 'IP' in future

[kylor]

Jason X is awesome. Bring back that version.

[djgeneral]

I just need more slasher films

[sandman slim]

Friday the 13th Part 27: Jason Gets Jury Duty

[NI-Gunner]

Originally Posted by sandman slim

Friday the 13th Part 27: Jason Gets Jury Duty

Friday The 13th: Jason Goes To Development Hell

[mwynn]

Originally Posted by NI-Gunner

Based on what I've read this just means Miller will get a better deal than he would have, but for anyone to make money there will have to be a deal or they both lose. Miller will have the US rights but none of the material people want to see ie. Adult Jason. Cunningham will have the International Rights without Jason's origin. Essentially Miller could only make a movie based on Pamela and Child Jason for the US market, and lets face it, no production company would be particularly interested in. Meanwhile Cunningham could only make an Adult Jason movie for foreign markets.

They'll be forced to agree on a deal OR they sell their individual rights to the same person/company and then THEY could add them back together to make a new film.

It's just a pain in the ass because it delays everything

The even worse part is that other writer's will see this case and try to get more money for stuff they did decades ago and this will happen with other, even bigger 'IP' in future

They should have just settled when they had the chance. Pay the guy and this would have been taking care of. Creator's have been shafted for years by companies.

[Mr. Chaverria]

Originally Posted by NI-Gunner

Friday The 13th: Jason Goes To Development Hell

Yeah.... but he's been there multiple times.

[Himmel]

Providing an update today, Larry Zerner lets us know that Sean Cunningham only has until October 31st to file a Notice of Appeal. “If no Notice is filed, then they made a deal,” Zerner explains. “If not, the fight continues (for now).”

Bloody-Disgusting

[Captain Flint]

I'm expecting this all to blow over once Halloween breaks records this weekend. I'm predicting a rebirth of slasher movies