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Old 02-26-2021, 03:44 PM   #9021
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To be fair, if one were to parse through these forums without attention to detail, one would also think the only directors that exist are Nolan, Fincher, Scorsese, Synder, and Scott.

Haha.

That's great company, but there's a serious hard-o* on these boards for those fellows, which, of course, makes the conversation revolving around them that much more prevalent and LOUD.
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Old 02-26-2021, 03:47 PM   #9022
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To be fair, if one were to parse through these forums without attention to detail, one would also think the only directors that exist are Nolan, Fincher, Scorsese, Kubrick, and Scott.

Haha.

That's great company, but there's a serious hard-o* on these boards for those fellows, which, of course, makes the conversation revolving around them that much more prevalent and LOUD.
Scott is a damn great filmmaker and very humble in interviews. He has some misses but i think the vast majority of moviegoers have strong respect for him because of his masterpiece: Blade Runner

Nobody criticizes Kubrick because he's one-of-kind and has a small but varied filmography.

Scorsese is the GOAT - the perfect example of pure filmmaking and enterteinment together. A very varied, consistent and polished filmography that has stuff like Shutter Island and After Hours as the bottom.

Fincher seems to be appreciated, he's a very good director with some minor films and at least 2 masterpieces with Zodiac and Se7en. His content is dark and grim but mature and worthy of repeat viewings.

Nolan is the most hated and downplayed director in the internet at the moment, it seems like people turned on him and everything he does so I would say he's great but below the ones listed here except Fincher. I don't see much hate or loud people with anyone except Nolan.
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Old 02-26-2021, 03:52 PM   #9023
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I had forgotten about Synder and replaced Kubrick with him. I try to avoid thinking about Synder as much as I can.
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Old 02-26-2021, 03:55 PM   #9024
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I do like Watchmen and BvS from Snyder, but i feel he has some flaws in terms of storytelling that prevents him to be a very good director.

Unpopular takes:

Micheal Bay is a better filmmaker than Snyder because at least he made two fun films

Blade Runner is better than 2001

The Matrix is the most overrated sci-fi film ever made

Arnie is a better actor than Dwayne Johnson
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I miss Tony Scott.

Revenge is peak pulp cinema.
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Old 02-26-2021, 03:58 PM   #9026
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My real issue with Synder is the bombast. He has a lot of the same problems Bay does with letting excess get in the way of cohesion or storytelling. He's got great flair, though, and despite the favored dreariness in the color palettes of his films (there's this patina of Granny's peach tea in nearly all of his films, across the board), there's no denying he's got style.

Like I said, I like these directors (and I LOVE Scott!), and as far as "LOUD", I just meant that these directors dominate a lot of the threads and conversation on these forums; it didn't relate or refer to Nolan being attacked more or less, etc.
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Old 02-26-2021, 04:04 PM   #9027
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Nobody criticizes Kubrick because he's one-of-kind and has a small but varied filmography.

Scorsese is the GOAT - the perfect example of pure filmmaking and entertainment together. A very varied, consistent and polished filmography that has stuff like Shutter Island and After Hours as the bottom.

Nolan is the most hated and downplayed director in the internet at the moment, it seems like people turned on him and everything he does so I would say he's great but below the ones listed here except Fincher. I don't see much hate or loud people with anyone except Nolan.

Kubrick gets flack. He just have to look for it. I'm sure there's plenty that get mad at him for his techniques on The Shining.

Really? After Hours on the bottom. I take it you're a person who hasn't seen Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore or Kundun. And if you did, you would (undeservedly) say those are bottom.

He's hated because he was the big director demanding his film get released in cinemas during a freaking pandemic. people are sick and dying and his thought is to get his art out there. For money maybe or maybe for his ego.
And I know he values art, cinema, film, etc but now is not the time to release films. Sadly.
It also doesn't help that Tenet sucked and proof of all his weak tactics and abilities in film.

Again, reading your typing I get the impression of a 16 year old trying hard to sound smart as they talk about film as they use the typical popular things that people only remember in the last decade or so.
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Old 02-26-2021, 04:08 PM   #9028
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Ahaha, fair enough. I was not sure about who people prefer so i made the thread about em now.

Going back at your point, I think Tony Scott is a decent popcorn director, it's just enjoyable and does not take himself seriously. But he does seem to have some videoclip style or the cinematography to be too light, exactly like Bay's.

I think Bay has fallen off. Before Transformers 2 or 3, I didn't think he was THAT bad. Now he's become a joke and has produced some unwatchable abominations.


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Kubrick gets flack. He just have to look for it. I'm sure there's plenty that get mad at him for his techniques on The Shining.

Really? After Hours on the bottom. I take it you're a person who hasn't seen Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore or Kundun. And if you did, you would (undeservedly) say those are bottom.

He's hated because he was the big director demanding his film get released in cinemas during a freaking pandemic. people are sick and dying and his thought is to get his art out there. For money maybe or maybe for his ego.
And I know he values art, cinema, film, etc but now is not the time to release films. Sadly.
It also doesn't help that Tenet sucked and proof of all his weak tactics and abilities in film.

Again, reading your typing I get the impression of a 16 year old trying hard to sound smart as they talk about film as they use the typical popular things that people only remember in the last decade or so.
Sorry to break it, but I said After Hours would at the bottom. Not that it would be his worst film. I rank it as his 15th best, and i still believe it's great. That was just a statement to speak about how great Scorsese is.

Kubrick is one of the most appreciated directors by both critics and moviegoers. Haven't seen anyone criticizing him

Atleast he did something productive for cinema and released something, the movie had some flaws but it was decent and "weak tactics and abilities" is opinion based, it's just a minor film.

For sure the hate is more of non-constructive if people think Batman and Robin is better than Inception or The Dark Knight or that Snyder's better and i could go on... it does not bother me but it's just a bit annoying to see all this bashing.

Like I just said my unpopular take about why Batman Returns sucked with detail and why something was a far better portrayal

I know my stuff actually.

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So can we all agree that Batman Returns is the best comic book film ever made?

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So can we all agree that Batman Returns is the best comic book film ever made?

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I think we're all on the same page.
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So can we all agree that Batman Returns is the best comic book film ever made?

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The Dark Knight easily holds up better. A stronger villain and supporting cast, along with a less predictable story structure, make it stand out amongst other films of the genre.
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Old 02-26-2021, 04:22 PM   #9033
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Atleast he did something productive for cinema and released something, the movie had some flaws but it was decent and "weak tactics and abilities" is opinion based, it's just a minor film.

For sure the hate is more of non-constructive if people think Batman and Robin is better than Inception or The Dark Knight or that Snyder's better and i could go on... it does not bother me but it's just a bit annoying to see all this bashing.

Like I just said my unpopular take about why Batman Returns sucked with detail and why something was a far better portrayal

I know my stuff actually.

Most would say that inaudible dialogue isn't an aesthetic choice.
His tells in film are quite obvious and it's gotten quite tiresome.

As for productive about cinema: really? No. A movie that is his most critically lauded in his career with people outing his narrative structure and the problems of it along with his desire to go big concept without fully realizing that the public might not get it. It also lose WB money. It also is a funny sign when a freaking Nolan film has a rap song named after his film in the credits.

You keep acting like others can't tout what they prefer over other or what they like. You throw around "your opinions} talk like it's going out of style.
Yes, we all got 'em. No one is special for it. This is just a place for one's that don't mesh with the general populace.

I doubt it.
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Easily in the Top 5 of Most Comic-Book Moments Ever. Mix in Elfman's "la la la la's" and that sweeping shot of the Gotham City set and it's a done deal.
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This thread needs an enema.

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I hereby banish the name Nolan to the Shadow Realm. Only for a week at least.

Back to it though.

Andy Sidaris marathons should be played at different film festivals. For posterity of course.
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Old 02-26-2021, 04:42 PM   #9037
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Most would say that inaudible dialogue isn't an aesthetic choice.
His tells in film are quite obvious and it's gotten quite tiresome.

As for productive about cinema: really? No. A movie that is his most critically lauded in his career with people outing his narrative structure and the problems of it along with his desire to go big concept without fully realizing that the public might not get it. It also lose WB money. It also is a funny sign when a freaking Nolan film has a rap song named after his film in the credits.

You keep acting like others can't tout what they prefer over other or what they like. You throw around "your opinions} talk like it's going out of style.
Yes, we all got 'em. No one is special for it. This is just a place for one's that don't mesh with the general populace.

I doubt it.
No, i'm all in for constructive criticism but downplaying an amazing film and a great director (I have shown enough evidence about their archiviements) to Batman and Robin or Russo brothers or Bay level is pure trolling...

As you see, no one in this site likes this director anymore

Yeah, at least he did give something to movie watchers. It has some flaws but ain't that bad, actually. Audio too.
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Whew... Ya know, I just can't get on that Batman Returns batwagon. It's an entertaining "Tim Burton" movie with Tim's Burtonisms slathered on every image and word on the script... but I found it to be a bit unsatisfying as a Batman movie. Penguin's plot with all the upstanding mayor stuff was uninteresting(more so than even Joker's attempt at Herbal Essence), Catwoman(Michelle) was mucho sexy yes and great... BUT, they gutted the comic character that had a much better more interesting backstory being a skilled thief as opposed to a living dead dominatrix. Most glaringly is the severe lack of Bruce/Batman as a character and even screentime. Michael was fantastic when he WAS on screen.

Overall BR feels small time compared to B89. An even more unpopular opinion, I do get more enjoyment out of B&R, than BR.... and no I'm not trolling.
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