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Old 08-10-2012, 05:52 AM   #9021
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Anything you want to see with the S1's before I take them back downstairs for surround duty?
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Old 08-10-2012, 05:58 AM   #9022
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Anything you want to see with the S1's before I take them back downstairs for surround duty?
i would be cool to see you compare the S1s, S20s and 110s with star tracks on each.
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i would be cool to see you compare the S1s, S20s and 110s with star tracks on each.
I'll try and get that done tonight as I won't be making any vids tomorrow.
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I'll try and get that done tonight as I won't be making any vids tomorrow.
whats tomorrow?
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whats tomorrow?
Nothing, just my wife will be home and she hates when I do this type of thing.
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Old 08-10-2012, 08:13 AM   #9027
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Thought it would be easier to watch if they were all in one place instead of spread out, this should keep you busy at work.
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Old 08-10-2012, 10:47 AM   #9028
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Nice comparo

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Old 08-10-2012, 02:49 PM   #9029
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Nothing, just my wife will be home and she hates when I do this type of thing.
Our wifes should together and compare the amount of things they hate that we do. Im sure there would be a lot of similarities, and a pretty long list!
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Are they level matched? Doesnt sound like it... probably tough to do on the fly like that, thanks for doing that.

what do you think?

Otherwise from the sound of it all, the Studios are the brightest, but not shrill at all, the Sigs are the more neutral of the 3 and the Dyns are a little more warmish in the highs, but offer up more bass, the S1s seem to have good bass, but the S20s offer a touch more.

Overall, 3 very good speakers.

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Old 08-10-2012, 04:58 PM   #9032
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Are they level matched? Doesnt sound like it... probably tough to do on the fly like that, thanks for doing that.

what do you think?

Otherwise from the sound of it all, the Studios are the brightest, but not shrill at all, the Sigs are the more neutral of the 3 and the Dyns are a little more warmish in the highs, but offer up more bass, the S1s seem to have good bass, but the S20s offer a touch more.

Overall, 3 very good speakers.
You are spot on, the berilyum tweeter on the Signature tames the higs down vs the 20 and that Focus speakeer is round sounding, much like my Forest.

3 great speakers, nothing absolutely wrong with them.
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Old 08-10-2012, 06:08 PM   #9033
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You are spot on, the berilyum tweeter on the Signature tames the higs down vs the 20 and that Focus speakeer is round sounding, much like my Forest.

3 great speakers, nothing absolutely wrong with them.
what did you think my version of star tracks? Ill try to play it louder tonight so it can be heard better. then post it tomorrow.
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Old 08-10-2012, 06:14 PM   #9034
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what did you think my version of star tracks? Ill try to play it louder tonight so it can be heard better. then post it tomorrow.
It sounds good.

Try playing the song at the :45 second mark when it gets quite, besides bass reproduction I find that's one of the most difficult parts of the song for the speaker to get the right amount of detail. I find anyway.
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Old 08-10-2012, 06:22 PM   #9035
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Are they level matched? Doesnt sound like it... probably tough to do on the fly like that, thanks for doing that.

what do you think?

Otherwise from the sound of it all, the Studios are the brightest, but not shrill at all, the Sigs are the more neutral of the 3 and the Dyns are a little more warmish in the highs, but offer up more bass, the S1s seem to have good bass, but the S20s offer a touch more.

Overall, 3 very good speakers.
No they're not perfectly level matched but it was late and I was tired. One of these days I'll do a whole series of vids with all the bookshelves I have to show the differences from a broader range of price points. At this point in time I could also add the Atoms and the RC Mini's.

IIRC the S1's are the best measuring, most neutral speakers Paradigm makes. I also think the S1's benefitted the most from the new woofers in the v3 version. The v2's that I had the woofers just weren't up to the task of being played full range, the extra 3db of power handling of the new woofers has been a nice improvement. Being a sealed speaker they really need some juice to get the bass going, even then they don't reach down as low as the Dyn's or S20's. The bass they do produce is nice tight bass though.

The other thing is that the Dyn's only have about 30hrs on them now, I know more time won't make a night and day difference but I don't think I've heard the best they have to offer yet.
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You are spot on, the berilyum tweeter on the Signature tames the higs down vs the 20 and that Focus speakeer is round sounding, much like my Forest.

3 great speakers, nothing absolutely wrong with them.
You get people sometimes claiming the Sigs aren't worth the price over the Studio's and they don't really sound that different. The most common complaint is the only difference is the tweeter, which just isn't true. The better crossover makes a big difference when it comes to sibilance, the Sigs just don't get nearly as much as the Studio's.

Anyway if you actually sit down and compare the two ( which I think you've casually done and have a good sense sense of the differences between the two ) you will easily be able to spot what your paying the extra money for. It's more than just the tweeter.
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You get people sometimes claiming the Sigs aren't worth the price over the Studio's and they don't really sound that different. The most common complaint is the only difference is the tweeter, which just isn't true. The better crossover makes a big difference when it comes to sibilance, the Sigs just don't get nearly as much as the Studio's.

Anyway if you actually sit down and compare the two ( which I think you've casually done and have a good sense sense of the differences between the two ) you will easily be able to spot what your paying the extra money for. It's more than just the tweeter.
Of course they upgrade the X-over I heard the difference and the Sigs for me blew away the Studios.

I had theis discussion with Steve too X-over plays an important role in a lod speaker design.
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hey Steve im jamming some michael jackson thriller on vinyl !! it sounds sweet !! hope your having fun making videos , hope your weekend is good !!
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switched to planet p now not sure if you heard of them early 80s rock .
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hey Steve im jamming some michael jackson thriller on vinyl !! it sounds sweet !! hope your having fun making videos , hope your weekend is good !!
thanks bud. I hope you have a good weekend too.

I have been playing a little vinyl lately too. I put Jimi Hendrix Blues on vinyl on my Amazon list, it was actually cheaper then the CD, go figure, but my B-days coming up and the wife wanted to know what I wanted, so I put some things on there so she could choose, I also have a Sony BDP on there to, the 590.... wishful thinking, on my part. Never know tho.
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