Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Rzzzz]

Ha Ha, oh well it wouldn't be the fist time, and it definitely won't be the last !!

[CV19]

Originally Posted by Rzzzz

How long until these movie studios start censoring movies we grew up with so as not to offend what ever group is the victim of the day? I think it is just a matter of time.....

To a certain extent this happens with some older movie titles to be more "politically correct" (God how I hate that)! Up to now, I'm not aware of any film having their dialogue edited for a DVD/Blu-ray release (even though it had been considered), but it certainly has been edited or re-dubbed for broadcasts on some occasions.

[Steedeel]

If short form content explodes like I expect it too over the next 2-3 years, a lot of people on here are going to owe me a BIG apology and look rather stupid. This stuff will be at the expense of long form tv and film, mark my words.
If they are going to try to monetise these mobile only premium content services, that’s going to be at the expense of the likes of Netflix, Amazon, Hulu etc.. why own a tv when all the content out there is short form?

[Groot]

Yes, they are going to abandon long-form media that brings in billions in revenue, not just from the content itself but toys, figures, accessories, etc. in favor of short form mobile content. It's impossible for them to just offer content independent of that and have another way to make money.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Groot

Yes, they are going to abandon long-form media that brings in billions in revenue, not just from the content itself but toys, figures, accessories, etc. in favor of short form mobile content. It's impossible for them to just offer content independent of that and have another way to make money.

But you know how quick things change Groot. Look at Netflix and the impact they have had? Billions own phones, far more than own TV sets.

[Groot]

Right.

According to Nielsen's National Television Household Universe Estimates, there are 118.4 million TV homes in the U.S. for the 2016-17 TV season. The number of persons age 2 and older in U.S. TV Households is estimated to be 301.7 million,

There's estimated to be 325 million in the US.

Most people have a TV, 96% in fact.

http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/insight...17-season.html

There are 237 million cellphone users.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...one-users-usa/

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The worldwide totals work out about the same ratio....

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Groot

Right.

According to Nielsen's National Television Household Universe Estimates, there are 118.4 million TV homes in the U.S. for the 2016-17 TV season. The number of persons age 2 and older in U.S. TV Households is estimated to be 301.7 million,

There's estimated to be 325 million in the US.

Most people have a TV, 96% in fact.

http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/insight...17-season.html

There are 237 million cellphone users.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...one-users-usa/

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The worldwide totals work out about the same ratio....

My argument there would be young people watch far more content on mobile. Give them a short form premium service and are you telling me that won’t cannibalise tv sales in the future?

[Groot]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

My argument there would be young people watch far more content on mobile. Give them a short form premium service and are you telling me that won’t cannibalise tv sales in the future?

What Happens When Millennials Move Through Life Stages? (Not Updated)

An argument can be made that youths’ media habits will change as they grow older and progress through life changes such as starting a family and owning a home. Twin pieces of research released by TDG back in 2013 illustrated this potential phenomenon. The first survey showed that few 18-24-year-olds living with their parents were “highly inclined” to get pay-TV once they struck out on their own, with 1 in 4 saying they were “highly disinclined” to do so. But, in a separate survey of 18-24-year-old broadband users who had moved into a non-college residence, TDG found only about 1 in 10 saying they had never signed up for a cable or satellite service after moving out on their own for the first time.

Nielsen’s Q4 2015 Total Audience Report took a deeper look at the impact of life stages on Millennials’ media habits, segmenting 18-34-year-olds into three distinct groups: “dependent adults” (living in someone else’s home, mostly their parents’); “on their own” (living in their own home without children); and “starting a family” (living in their own home with children).

Nielsen’s data showed that virtually all (97% of) 18-year-olds live in someone else’s home (or presumably in a dorm), while almost 90% of 34-year-olds live in their own home, about 3 in 5 with kids. (If nothing else, this is a solid argument for not treating Millennials as a homogenous group…)

https://www.marketingcharts.com/featured-24817

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I immediately googled the age progression of media. An adult isn't going to sit on a phone as they go through life and studies already point to that being the case.

This is, as of right now, a non-issue.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Groot

What Happens When Millennials Move Through Life Stages? (Not Updated)

An argument can be made that youths’ media habits will change as they grow older and progress through life changes such as starting a family and owning a home. Twin pieces of research released by TDG back in 2013 illustrated this potential phenomenon. The first survey showed that few 18-24-year-olds living with their parents were “highly inclined” to get pay-TV once they struck out on their own, with 1 in 4 saying they were “highly disinclined” to do so. But, in a separate survey of 18-24-year-old broadband users who had moved into a non-college residence, TDG found only about 1 in 10 saying they had never signed up for a cable or satellite service after moving out on their own for the first time.

Nielsen’s Q4 2015 Total Audience Report took a deeper look at the impact of life stages on Millennials’ media habits, segmenting 18-34-year-olds into three distinct groups: “dependent adults” (living in someone else’s home, mostly their parents’); “on their own” (living in their own home without children); and “starting a family” (living in their own home with children).

Nielsen’s data showed that virtually all (97% of) 18-year-olds live in someone else’s home (or presumably in a dorm), while almost 90% of 34-year-olds live in their own home, about 3 in 5 with kids. (If nothing else, this is a solid argument for not treating Millennials as a homogenous group…)

https://www.marketingcharts.com/featured-24817

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I immediately googled the age progression of media. An adult isn't going to sit on a phone as they go through life and studies already point to that being the case.

This is, as of right now, a non-issue.

But at the moment we don’t have a exclusive, mobile only premium short form scripted subscription service. If young people have to choose one over the other, they will choose what they use.

Also, the more young people are exposed to content from 1 minute to 15 minutes, the more long form will become a chore to those people.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

But at the moment we don’t have a exclusive, mobile only premium short form scripted subscription service. If young people have to choose one over the other, they will choose what they use.

Also, the more young people are exposed to content from 1 minute to 15 minutes, the more long form will become a chore to those people.

There's mobile apps. Shit loads of them. Playstations, Xbox's, Nintendo's etc haven't ceased to exist in favor of mobile gaming.

Under your new world theory everyone is going to develop ADHD. There's been short form books for generations, novels didn't disappear. Penny comics and short stories didn't end books. YouTube videos and similar content aren't killing films.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

What exactly has Netflix killed off?

Nothing. It's made a "minor" (very minor) dent in movie buying, but it's only hurting over-priced cable subscriptions that are just evolving into other forms of cable subscriptions that Hulu, YouTube, Vue etc are now offering.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

What exactly has Netflix killed off?

It hasn’t killed anything off.....yet! It has changed the landscape of entertainment completely though. From all you can eat to binge watching to the ability to download content to watch when out and about.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Groot

There's mobile apps. Shit loads of them. Playstations, Xbox's, Nintendo's etc haven't ceased to exist in favor of mobile gaming.

Under your new world theory everyone is going to develop ADHD. There's been short form books for generations, novels didn't disappear. Penny comics and short stories didn't end books. YouTube videos and similar content aren't killing films.

This is the first time that a whole generation are going to have all forms of entertainment available at their fingertips just when they want it. You can’t deny that?

[Groot]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

This is the first time that a whole generation are going to have all forms of entertainment available at their fingertips just when they want it. You can’t deny that?

That's still not showing that long-form media will disappear because...it's also available at their fingertips.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

I have no doubt that many people of later generations will choose to watch short form content on their phones. But many other people of those same generations will choose to watch long form content on their TVs. Plenty of people will also choose to watch both.

Why do you think that since they have a choice all of them will choose the choice you don't like?

Just the era we live in? Look how poplular social media and Youtube is.

[Groot]

I'm 33 and watch YouTube every single day. I also watch movies or TV everyday. This shit co-exists. The data already shows it does for just about everyone.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Groot

I'm 33 and watch YouTube every single day. I also watch movies or TV everyday. This shit co-exists. The data already shows it does for just about everyone.

33 you say? Ok, how about a 13 year old?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

I'm curious how many people in their teens and 20s do you know? I know plenty of them and they all have big TVs.

They all use Youtube, Facebook, and Twitter as well (often on their phones) but that hasn't stopped any of them from watching movies and TV shows on their big TVs.

Two or three year ago, about 500. Different job now, so just a handful.

Like I said, it’s not about both. My link was about mobile ONLY short form (premium) content. That right there is creating a divide of tv style long form or short mobile.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

33 you say? Ok, how about a 13 year old?

They live in homes with parents my age who own tvs and watch movies and go see films at the cinema.

[Steedeel]

Going to have to leave it there for now guys. Work in the morning. Thanks for your posts.