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Old 12-14-2018, 12:14 AM   #941
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[Show spoiler]I love Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 and liked 3 but thought 4, TCM 3D and Leatherface 2017 were total shit while The Beginning was lame and the remake was decent.

Predator 2 was the last worthwhile Predator film while AVP. Predators and The Predator i thought were garbage as The Predator was a total joke of a movie turning the character into a friggin' joke.

Aliens was the last worthwhile Alien film in my book/opinion while i totally hated 3, Resurrection, AVP. Prometheus and Conveneant as it's time to bury this franchise already and let it rest in peace as it's a dead end already, not under construction.

I always enjoyed Friday The 13th growing up since i saw 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 on cable even saw 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 in theaters as a kid but i disliked 5/8/X and Freddy vs Jason had it's moments and 2009 reboot was enjoyable as i liked it but it's been 10 years and no sequel because of overcomplications, and if your overcomplicating things then just let it end.

The last Child's Play film worth a view in my book was 3 as i felt the story ended there with Chucky dead from the fan and who knows what happened with Andy and all as it's time to move on, the other sequels are just spin-offs starring Chucky and family as i thought the last 4 films sucked and Mancini lost his touch and became a hack to to this point as he's a shitty director/writer and has turned the character into a joke. A remake coming next year is just beating this dead horse to the ground, just let this franchise rest in peace already, it's been dead for a long time.

Halloween on sequels i liked 2, 3, 4 and H2O! but i really thought 5/Resurrection/RZ's II were horrible and i thought 6 (even in both cuts)/Rob Zombie's remake/2018 sequel aka Halloween's Greatest hits (since it takes alot of same shit from 4/1978/2/H2O in terms of nostalgia jerking off like Superman Returns or Last Jedi than being it's own film) were lame as hell.

Elm Street which is my favorite horror franchise since i saw 1 and 2 on HBO when i was 4 even saw 3/4/5/6/7 in theaters as a kid and had some merchandise, watched the TV show on saturday nights and all. I really enjoyed 1, 3, 4, 6 and New Nightmare while i thought 2 was decent, 5 was a disappointing boring sequel as Englund felt flat and the remake was horrendous with a horrible script, bad directing and Jackie while good as Rorscach was pathetic as Freddy with that laughable Bale Batman voice. You can't do it! Robert Englund IS Freddy Krueger and even Englund said it himself.

Scream 1 was excellent while 2 is a good sequel as 3 was a weak but somewhat entertaining finale and i thought 4 was lame with a weak script, dislikable characters, bad kills and all, 4 thankfully flopped in theaters and all to end this franchise while the show lasted one season. Hellraiser's last enjoyable sequel was 3 while 4 was lame and the rest were direct to video crap.

Saw should had ended with 3 as a trilogy but they kept beating the horse even with the so-called "final chapter", Jigsaw was crap movie and was another attempt to beat that corpse.

Check out at 1:24:34 which is a controversial rant by 2 youtube friends of mine on a podcast they made urging audiences, horror fans and studios to just let iconic horror franchises and beloved horror icons to just die and rest in peace and move on to make fresh brand new ones and new franchise.

With comparisons to the Universal monsters of the 30s/40s/50s, Universal bottoming out of their own icons, slasher craze and crash of the 80s and the recent trend of sequelizing and remaking Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Friday The 13th (despite they with me like the 2009 remake and no sequel has happened in 10 years), Elm Street, Child's Play, Scream, Saw, Hellraiser, etc. and how they feel it's time to let these franchises and beloved horror icons to slumber in peace than to constantly bring them back in hope of new life/profit/old glory otherwise they are gonna be zombies and this video is perfect for those who are fed up with what's been done to them in the past 10 or 20 years.

Make new horror icons that are fresh and new! it's how Michael Myers, Chucky, Freddy Krueger, Leatherface, Jigsaw, Ghostface, Jason Voorhees and Pinhead came to be as they were not copies of the universal monsters but unique in their own ways. Horror needs unique fresh icons again, Not the same tired old ones force fed to new generations like they are still as cool as they were in the 80s 90s and early 2000s. They had their time in the sun and earned retirement from the genre, let them kick off their shoes to relax, bringing them back constantly is only gonna hurt their legacy and turn them into jokes. I know it is sad but it is true and this video may hurt some people but it's a painful truth as i stand by the guys in the rant, it's time to move on.

No need for anymore Halloween sequels, terrible direct to video Hellraiser sequels, Don Mancini made crappy Child's Play sequels (i felt the series ended at 3 and i'm not looking forward to the TV show and remake as the horse is already dead), anymore poor Leatherface sequels/prequels (the last TCM worth a damn was 1990's 3 while 2003's remake was decent), the 15th Leprechaun movie, more Children of the Corn sequels etc. it's a dead horse already and they are beating it, sometimes dead is better and this video tells the truth and i'm standing by them.


I think it's better to let these characters retire/die from film and live on through merchandise like t-shirts, appreal, comics, video games, books, re-issues of the movies on blu-ray, streams of the old movies on amazon/hulu/netflix, toys and all that. And try new horror icons and new horror franchises. I mean doing new horror icons may actually work for when there's nothing new you can offer to older icons and their franchises with no new ideas, sure new horror icons may get all the hate but it may take time for some new ones to get praise.

I mean look at the last decade as we got the Creeper, Captain Splauding, Jigsaw, Leslie Vernon, Victor Crawley and Sam from Trick R Treat. I mean Annabelle and the Nun are at least they tried, they just need to keep trying.
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I love Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 and liked 3 but thought 4, TCM 3D and Leatherface 2017 were total shit while The Beginning was lame and the remake was decent.

Predator 2 was the last worthwhile Predator film while AVP. Predators and The Predator i thought were garbage as The Predator was a total joke of a movie turning the character into a friggin' joke.

Aliens was the last worthwhile Alien film in my book/opinion while i totally hated 3, Resurrection, AVP. Prometheus and Conveneant as it's time to bury this franchise already and let it rest in peace as it's a dead end already, not under construction.

I always enjoyed Friday The 13th growing up since i saw 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 on cable even saw 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 in theaters as a kid but i disliked 5/8/X and Freddy vs Jason had it's moments and 2009 reboot was enjoyable as i liked it but it's been 10 years and no sequel because of overcomplications, and if your overcomplicating things then just let it end.

The last Child's Play film worth a view in my book was 3 as i felt the story ended there with Chucky dead from the fan and who knows what happened with Andy and all as it's time to move on, the other sequels are just spin-offs starring Chucky and family as i thought the last 4 films sucked and Mancini lost his touch and became a hack to to this point as he's a shitty director/writer and has turned the character into a joke. A remake coming next year is just beating this dead horse to the ground, just let this franchise rest in peace already, it's been dead for a long time.

Halloween on sequels i liked 2, 3, 4 and H2O! but i really thought 5/Resurrection/RZ's II were horrible and i thought 6 (even in both cuts)/Rob Zombie's remake/2018 sequel aka Halloween's Greatest hits (since it takes alot of same shit from 4/1978/2/H2O in terms of nostalgia jerking off like Superman Returns or Last Jedi than being it's own film) were lame as hell.

Elm Street which is my favorite horror franchise since i saw 1 and 2 on HBO when i was 4 even saw 3/4/5/6/7 in theaters as a kid and had some merchandise, watched the TV show on saturday nights and all. I really enjoyed 1, 3, 4, 6 and New Nightmare while i thought 2 was decent, 5 was a disappointing boring sequel as Englund felt flat and the remake was horrendous with a horrible script, bad directing and Jackie while good as Rorscach was pathetic as Freddy with that laughable Bale Batman voice. You can't do it! Robert Englund IS Freddy Krueger and even Englund said it himself.

Scream 1 was excellent while 2 is a good sequel as 3 was a weak but somewhat entertaining finale and i thought 4 was lame with a weak script, dislikable characters, bad kills and all, 4 thankfully flopped in theaters and all to end this franchise while the show lasted one season. Hellraiser's last enjoyable sequel was 3 while 4 was lame and the rest were direct to video crap.

Saw should had ended with 3 as a trilogy but they kept beating the horse even with the so-called "final chapter", Jigsaw was crap movie and was another attempt to beat that corpse.

Check out at 1:24:34 which is a controversial rant by 2 youtube friends of mine on a podcast they made urging audiences, horror fans and studios to just let iconic horror franchises and beloved horror icons to just die and rest in peace and move on to make fresh brand new ones and new franchise.

With comparisons to the Universal monsters of the 30s/40s/50s, Universal bottoming out of their own icons, slasher craze and crash of the 80s and the recent trend of sequelizing and remaking Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Friday The 13th (despite they with me like the 2009 remake and no sequel has happened in 10 years), Elm Street, Child's Play, Scream, Saw, Hellraiser, etc. and how they feel it's time to let these franchises and beloved horror icons to slumber in peace than to constantly bring them back in hope of new life/profit/old glory otherwise they are gonna be zombies and this video is perfect for those who are fed up with what's been done to them in the past 10 or 20 years.

Make new horror icons that are fresh and new! it's how Michael Myers, Chucky, Freddy Krueger, Leatherface, Jigsaw, Ghostface, Jason Voorhees and Pinhead came to be as they were not copies of the universal monsters but unique in their own ways. Horror needs unique fresh icons again, Not the same tired old ones force fed to new generations like they are still as cool as they were in the 80s 90s and early 2000s. They had their time in the sun and earned retirement from the genre, let them kick off their shoes to relax, bringing them back constantly is only gonna hurt their legacy and turn them into jokes. I know it is sad but it is true and this video may hurt some people but it's a painful truth as i stand by the guys in the rant, it's time to move on.

No need for anymore Halloween sequels, terrible direct to video Hellraiser sequels, Don Mancini made crappy Child's Play sequels (i felt the series ended at 3 and i'm not looking forward to the TV show and remake as the horse is already dead), anymore poor Leatherface sequels/prequels (the last TCM worth a damn was 1990's 3 while 2003's remake was decent), the 15th Leprechaun movie, more Children of the Corn sequels etc. it's a dead horse already and they are beating it, sometimes dead is better and this video tells the truth and i'm standing by them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP7k...fh2Z6ESbBJHNSA

I think it's better to let these characters retire/die from film and live on through merchandise like t-shirts, appreal, comics, video games, books, re-issues of the movies on blu-ray, streams of the old movies on amazon/hulu/netflix, toys and all that. And try new horror icons and new horror franchises. I mean doing new horror icons may actually work for when there's nothing new you can offer to older icons and their franchises with no new ideas, sure new horror icons may get all the hate but it may take time for some new ones to get praise.

I mean look at the last decade as we got the Creeper, Captain Splauding, Jigsaw, Leslie Vernon, Victor Crawley and Sam from Trick R Treat. I mean Annabelle and the Nun are at least they tried, they just need to keep trying.
I'm curious to know what your definition of icon is because other than possibly Crowley and The Creeper, they're not considered as icons on the levels of Freddy, Jason or Chucky.
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I'm curious to know what your definition of icon is because other than possibly Crowley and The Creeper, they're not considered as icons on the levels of Freddy, Jason or Chucky.
Best to ignore the troll. He’s still fuming over the success of the new Halloween.
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He still has a better track record as producer than Cameron. I'd take Black Sails, The Purge series, A Quiet Place and Jack Ryan over Dark Angel any day. Also at this point his F13, Elm Street and TCM reboots are not exactly the worst of those franchises. Give me the Michael Bay TCM over Next Generation or Texas Chainsaw 3D or Leatherface. I'd take Bay's Elm Street over Freddy's Nightmares or F13 over Part 5 or Jason Goes to Hell.

Let's not pretend the integrity of these things was fully intact even in the hands of the original creators. Kim Henkel gave us TCM 4 after making the first with Hooper, Sean Cunningham allowed Jason Go To Hell to be a body swapping movie largely without Jason, then there's the Elm Street tv show that reduced Freddy to a lower grade Cryptkeeper.

MAYBE you could make a case that TCM remake isn't the worst of that franchise, but you're high if you don't think the F13 and Elm St. remakes are the worst of those franchises.
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The Nightmare remake was horrible about on par with part 6. I’ll take the Friday remake over parts 8,9 and X though.
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I'm curious to know what your definition of icon is because other than possibly Crowley and The Creeper, they're not considered as icons on the levels of Freddy, Jason or Chucky.
Well Creeper is one of the more memorable icons of the last decade in the horror genre and Jeepers Creepers was a box-office hit, thus created a new character that feels fresh and so was House of 1000 Corpses/Devil's Rejects own Captain Splauding.

Victor Crowley is a cult horror icon on the blu-ray/DVD market and so is Leslie Vernon and Sam from Trick R Treat, i wish their movies were in mainstream theaters than a dead horse like Saw or any dead franchise.
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A basketball player? producing a new Friday The 13th reboot film? i swear this movie is gonna be a joke like The Predator.
Why do you even care? I thought you hated old franchises and wanted them to go away. Don’t watch them if you wanna ignore them. Stop. Just stop.
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[Show spoiler]I love Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 and liked 3 but thought 4, TCM 3D and Leatherface 2017 were total shit while The Beginning was lame and the remake was decent.

Predator 2 was the last worthwhile Predator film while AVP. Predators and The Predator i thought were garbage as The Predator was a total joke of a movie turning the character into a friggin' joke.

Aliens was the last worthwhile Alien film in my book/opinion while i totally hated 3, Resurrection, AVP. Prometheus and Conveneant as it's time to bury this franchise already and let it rest in peace as it's a dead end already, not under construction.

I always enjoyed Friday The 13th growing up since i saw 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 on cable even saw 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 in theaters as a kid but i disliked 5/8/X and Freddy vs Jason had it's moments and 2009 reboot was enjoyable as i liked it but it's been 10 years and no sequel because of overcomplications, and if your overcomplicating things then just let it end.

The last Child's Play film worth a view in my book was 3 as i felt the story ended there with Chucky dead from the fan and who knows what happened with Andy and all as it's time to move on, the other sequels are just spin-offs starring Chucky and family as i thought the last 4 films sucked and Mancini lost his touch and became a hack to to this point as he's a shitty director/writer and has turned the character into a joke. A remake coming next year is just beating this dead horse to the ground, just let this franchise rest in peace already, it's been dead for a long time.

Halloween on sequels i liked 2, 3, 4 and H2O! but i really thought 5/Resurrection/RZ's II were horrible and i thought 6 (even in both cuts)/Rob Zombie's remake/2018 sequel aka Halloween's Greatest hits (since it takes alot of same shit from 4/1978/2/H2O in terms of nostalgia jerking off like Superman Returns or Last Jedi than being it's own film) were lame as hell.

Elm Street which is my favorite horror franchise since i saw 1 and 2 on HBO when i was 4 even saw 3/4/5/6/7 in theaters as a kid and had some merchandise, watched the TV show on saturday nights and all. I really enjoyed 1, 3, 4, 6 and New Nightmare while i thought 2 was decent, 5 was a disappointing boring sequel as Englund felt flat and the remake was horrendous with a horrible script, bad directing and Jackie while good as Rorscach was pathetic as Freddy with that laughable Bale Batman voice. You can't do it! Robert Englund IS Freddy Krueger and even Englund said it himself.

Scream 1 was excellent while 2 is a good sequel as 3 was a weak but somewhat entertaining finale and i thought 4 was lame with a weak script, dislikable characters, bad kills and all, 4 thankfully flopped in theaters and all to end this franchise while the show lasted one season. Hellraiser's last enjoyable sequel was 3 while 4 was lame and the rest were direct to video crap.

Saw should had ended with 3 as a trilogy but they kept beating the horse even with the so-called "final chapter", Jigsaw was crap movie and was another attempt to beat that corpse.



With comparisons to the Universal monsters of the 30s/40s/50s, Universal bottoming out of their own icons, slasher craze and crash of the 80s and the recent trend of sequelizing and remaking Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Friday The 13th (despite they with me like the 2009 remake and no sequel has happened in 10 years), Elm Street, Child's Play, Scream, Saw, Hellraiser, etc. and how they feel it's time to let these franchises and beloved horror icons to slumber in peace than to constantly bring them back in hope of new life/profit/old glory otherwise they are gonna be zombies and this video is perfect for those who are fed up with what's been done to them in the past 10 or 20 years.

Make new horror icons that are fresh and new! it's how Michael Myers, Chucky, Freddy Krueger, Leatherface, Jigsaw, Ghostface, Jason Voorhees and Pinhead came to be as they were not copies of the universal monsters but unique in their own ways. Horror needs unique fresh icons again, Not the same tired old ones force fed to new generations like they are still as cool as they were in the 80s 90s and early 2000s. They had their time in the sun and earned retirement from the genre, let them kick off their shoes to relax, bringing them back constantly is only gonna hurt their legacy and turn them into jokes. I know it is sad but it is true and this video may hurt some people but it's a painful truth as i stand by the guys in the rant, it's time to move on.

No need for anymore Halloween sequels, terrible direct to video Hellraiser sequels, Don Mancini made crappy Child's Play sequels (i felt the series ended at 3 and i'm not looking forward to the TV show and remake as the horse is already dead), anymore poor Leatherface sequels/prequels (the last TCM worth a damn was 1990's 3 while 2003's remake was decent), the 15th Leprechaun movie, more Children of the Corn sequels etc. it's a dead horse already and they are beating it, sometimes dead is better and this video tells the truth and i'm standing by them.
I don't think I could possibly disagree with you more regarding every single thing you've said. Holy hell. Congrats my dude.
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Why do you even care? I thought you hated old franchises and wanted them to go away. Don’t watch them if you wanna ignore them. Stop. Just stop.
I do care for some original franchises! i mean i love Jason, Freddy, Chucky, Michael, Leatherface, Pinhead, Ghostface, Predator, Jigsaw etc. i love those characters and some movies in their franchises. And that's why you gotta let them go, let them rest in peace as they earned their retirement from the genre on film you know. I mean i just hate seeing them being turned into jokes as they are becoming like the monsters in the Abbot and Costello movies, complete and total jokes you know and i'm honestly tired of it. It's just i'm tired of having Jason, Chucky, Freddy, Pinhead, Ghostface, Jigsaw etc. again and again on the big screen, i just want something new like The Collector movies. It's sad that a mediocre Halloween movie made money, i just hope the next films don't do well and to show that sometimes enough is enough, that's how some who are fed up with what's been done to these franchises to send their message to the studios and try to come up with new franchises/new icons already. And in Jason X and FVJ, Jason was turned into a joke and i don't like that. Plus Robert IS the one and only Freddy Krueger, accept no substitutes! same for Angus Scrimm as Tallman from Phantasm and Bruce Campbell as Ash as those actors embody the characters they played and even Tallman/Phantasm franchise died with Scrimm.

I mean, back in the 80s there was an attempt to do an 80s version of Abbot and Costello meet Frankenstein with Jason meets Cheech and Chong, now can you imagine back then if that was made? I mean, what worked for Abbot and Costello would not work for Jason. I'm with the guys in the video i mentioned, i too don't want to see something like Harold and Kumar meet the killers where they go to an island to meet Freddy, Jason, Leatherface and Chucky.

I mean their recent attempts at horror icons haven't been the best but at least they were successful in theaters being the Conjuring spin-offs and Insidious on Annabelle and The Nun, but at least, they are giving a damn and effort to do that. Studios just need to keep trying again and again. Like i said, bringing back older icons again on the big screen over and over is just gonna get diminishing returns and if that happens, it should give those mainstream studio fatcat executives the message that sometimes dead is better like Jud Crandall said, it's better not to milk a dead cow and let that cow just be buried where it belongs than become a zombie. I mean at least Quiet Place is spawning a fresh new franchise and i welcome that.

I mean the Collector movies, Quiet Place, It Follows,Conjuring 1 and 2, Tucker and Dale vs Evil, Housebound, Mandy, Babadook, The Host etc. are at least something new and different than the same old franchises/icons i've already seen. I support independent horror and foreign horror films and sometimes say "screw the mainstream", although the mainstream surprised me this year with A Quiet Place as it was something different too. I mean that movie took risks and earned a blockbuster hit status proving that Hollywood should learn from it to take risks again and make new franchises.
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I love Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 and liked 3 but thought 4, TCM 3D and Leatherface 2017 were total shit while The Beginning was lame and the remake was decent.

Predator 2 was the last worthwhile Predator film while AVP. Predators and The Predator i thought were garbage as The Predator was a total joke of a movie turning the character into a friggin' joke.

Aliens was the last worthwhile Alien film in my book/opinion while i totally hated 3, Resurrection, AVP. Prometheus and Conveneant as it's time to bury this franchise already and let it rest in peace as it's a dead end already, not under construction.

I always enjoyed Friday The 13th growing up since i saw 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 on cable even saw 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 in theaters as a kid but i disliked 5/8/X and Freddy vs Jason had it's moments and 2009 reboot was enjoyable as i liked it but it's been 10 years and no sequel because of overcomplications, and if your overcomplicating things then just let it end.

The last Child's Play film worth a view in my book was 3 as i felt the story ended there with Chucky dead from the fan and who knows what happened with Andy and all as it's time to move on, the other sequels are just spin-offs starring Chucky and family as i thought the last 4 films sucked and Mancini lost his touch and became a hack to to this point as he's a shitty director/writer and has turned the character into a joke. A remake coming next year is just beating this dead horse to the ground, just let this franchise rest in peace already, it's been dead for a long time.

Halloween on sequels i liked 2, 3, 4 and H2O! but i really thought 5/Resurrection/RZ's II were horrible and i thought 6 (even in both cuts)/Rob Zombie's remake/2018 sequel aka Halloween's Greatest hits (since it takes alot of same shit from 4/1978/2/H2O in terms of nostalgia jerking off like Superman Returns or Last Jedi than being it's own film) were lame as hell.

Elm Street which is my favorite horror franchise since i saw 1 and 2 on HBO when i was 4 even saw 3/4/5/6/7 in theaters as a kid and had some merchandise, watched the TV show on saturday nights and all. I really enjoyed 1, 3, 4, 6 and New Nightmare while i thought 2 was decent, 5 was a disappointing boring sequel as Englund felt flat and the remake was horrendous with a horrible script, bad directing and Jackie while good as Rorscach was pathetic as Freddy with that laughable Bale Batman voice. You can't do it! Robert Englund IS Freddy Krueger and even Englund said it himself.

Scream 1 was excellent while 2 is a good sequel as 3 was a weak but somewhat entertaining finale and i thought 4 was lame with a weak script, dislikable characters, bad kills and all, 4 thankfully flopped in theaters and all to end this franchise while the show lasted one season. Hellraiser's last enjoyable sequel was 3 while 4 was lame and the rest were direct to video crap.

Saw should had ended with 3 as a trilogy but they kept beating the horse even with the so-called "final chapter", Jigsaw was crap movie and was another attempt to beat that corpse.

Check out at 1:24:34 which is a controversial rant by 2 youtube friends of mine on a podcast they made urging audiences, horror fans and studios to just let iconic horror franchises and beloved horror icons to just die and rest in peace and move on to make fresh brand new ones and new franchise.

With comparisons to the Universal monsters of the 30s/40s/50s, Universal bottoming out of their own icons, slasher craze and crash of the 80s and the recent trend of sequelizing and remaking Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Friday The 13th (despite they with me like the 2009 remake and no sequel has happened in 10 years), Elm Street, Child's Play, Scream, Saw, Hellraiser, etc. and how they feel it's time to let these franchises and beloved horror icons to slumber in peace than to constantly bring them back in hope of new life/profit/old glory otherwise they are gonna be zombies and this video is perfect for those who are fed up with what's been done to them in the past 10 or 20 years.

Make new horror icons that are fresh and new! it's how Michael Myers, Chucky, Freddy Krueger, Leatherface, Jigsaw, Ghostface, Jason Voorhees and Pinhead came to be as they were not copies of the universal monsters but unique in their own ways. Horror needs unique fresh icons again, Not the same tired old ones force fed to new generations like they are still as cool as they were in the 80s 90s and early 2000s. They had their time in the sun and earned retirement from the genre, let them kick off their shoes to relax, bringing them back constantly is only gonna hurt their legacy and turn them into jokes. I know it is sad but it is true and this video may hurt some people but it's a painful truth as i stand by the guys in the rant, it's time to move on.

No need for anymore Halloween sequels, terrible direct to video Hellraiser sequels, Don Mancini made crappy Child's Play sequels (i felt the series ended at 3 and i'm not looking forward to the TV show and remake as the horse is already dead), anymore poor Leatherface sequels/prequels (the last TCM worth a damn was 1990's 3 while 2003's remake was decent), the 15th Leprechaun movie, more Children of the Corn sequels etc. it's a dead horse already and they are beating it, sometimes dead is better and this video tells the truth and i'm standing by them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP7k...fh2Z6ESbBJHNSA

I think it's better to let these characters retire/die from film and live on through merchandise like t-shirts, appreal, comics, video games, books, re-issues of the movies on blu-ray, streams of the old movies on amazon/hulu/netflix, toys and all that. And try new horror icons and new horror franchises. I mean doing new horror icons may actually work for when there's nothing new you can offer to older icons and their franchises with no new ideas, sure new horror icons may get all the hate but it may take time for some new ones to get praise.

I mean look at the last decade as we got the Creeper, Captain Splauding, Jigsaw, Leslie Vernon, Victor Crawley and Sam from Trick R Treat. I mean Annabelle and the Nun are at least they tried, they just need to keep trying.

I disagree with your assessment of the major franchises almost completely, in regards to both the last worthwhile film and future potential.

There’s a lot of room for more F13 movies. The question is, will the producers get out of their own way and hire a screenwriter with a brain?

Retcon the franchise back to sometime back in part 4/5, bring back Tommy Jarvis as the only formidable opponent Jason has ever had, set it in winter which offers tons of new potential scenes and kills for F13, and go from there.

What, it doesn’t snow in NJ?
-ice skate throat slit
-broomball stick impalement
-Jason rips somebody through the frozen lake
-ski pole impalement
-snow mobile double decapitation
-polar plunge lake scene


It’s too obvious a choice so I’m sure we’ll get Jason Goes on Safari or whatever other absurd ideas they talked about in the documentary.

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Blumhouse passionately wants to do Friday the 13th next, and wants to bring back Tommy Jarvis

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Halloween (2018) saw the franchise return to its roots with a back to basics approach, ignoring everything that came after the original Halloween (1978) and bringing the conflict back to Michael Myers and Laurie Strode. The movie became the highest grossing slasher horror film in history and, with a positive reception from critics and fans, successfully restored Michael Myers to prominence.

Speaking with ComicBook.com while promoting Halloween (2018)'s Blu-ray release, producer Ryan Turek revealed that he and Jason Blum would love the opportunity to help revitalize another classic slasher franchise. "Without a question, at the top of my list would be Friday The 13th. Friday The 13th would be the franchise that I would love to work on next. Jason Blum shares that same passion."

A Blumhouse-produced Friday The 13th movie would probably be similar to last year's Halloween according to Turek, who stressed that there were several things they would need to deliver to the fans: "You gotta deliver on a summer camp. You gotta deliver on counselors. You gotta deliver on Jason Voorhees."

Speaking with ScreenRant, Turek shared the approach that Blumhouse would take with a new Friday The 13th film and expressed his desire to see the return of Tommy Jarvis, the Laurie Strode equivalent of the franchise.

How do you do Friday the 13th? [It] would take a little bit of a conversation but for us, at Blumhouse, what it's really about is finding that director or writer/director - that creative team that just has a brilliant idea. I would love to see the return of Tommy Jarvis, but that's just my own fan wish. Because that was a great trilogy - 4, 5, and 6. I'm the biggest fan of 6 there can be. Tommy's the staple of the Friday franchise. Someone will get it at some point and hopefully deliver the goods.

It has been 10 years since 2009's poorly received Friday the 13th reboot. Last we heard, LeBron James was producing another reboot and a prequel film focusing on Pamela Voorhees was in development; however, the rights to Jason himself lie with original franchise director Sean Cunningham.

While the Friday The 13th rights are currently very complicated, Turek states that Blumhouse would be able able to do right by the franchise and fans if they could figure out the logistics to the rights. Would you be more excited to see Jason Voorhees revived by the same studio that reinvigorated the Halloween franchise?
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