Carrie (1976) (Collector's Edition)

[Rottweiler30]

What is it about these 4K remastered titles that turn some blues to green. Same thing happened with Goodfellas didn't it?

It can't be automatic according to some sort of remastering process or we'd have green skies. Why does it affect just some parts of the image?

[mlock]

Originally Posted by Rottweiler30

What is it about these 4K remastered titles that turn some blues to green. Same thing happened with Goodfellas didn't it?

It can't be automatic according to some sort of remastering process or we'd have green skies. Why does it affect just some parts of the image?

I can't speak for others, but I'm gonna guess it has to do with the color timing process, NOT the 4K scanning. Combine that with how whomever is supervising the restoration process and how they want the film to look.

[tylerc904]

I watched my copy Friday night after it came (with poster/package folded in half to fit in my mailbox) and it did look beautiful. I'd never actually seen the film from start to finish and while the prom scene is fantastic, and the whole sequence with the mother trying to kill Carrie towards the end was utterly unsettling and creepy, I was surprised how... light the whole thing was. Not light in subject matter (in fact, I felt so horrible for the poor girl throughout the film that it left me sad hours after), but light in scares/gore/and mood.

Even the two most volatile of the teens don't even get a proper send off. The whole thing feels rushed and like there was no chance for a moment to land. The slow-mo sequences also added to the lack of punch. I'm trying to put it in perspective to the time it was released which does give it more sense to be so... understated.

Great movie and I really did enjoy it, but I have to say I was underwhelmed on the "horror" front, especially considering its "classic" status. It really felt like a teen drama with about 10-15 minutes worth of horror.

[returnofthemack]

I've always felt sympathy for mama white. It isn't easy raising a child in these godless times.

[OneWayFilms]

Originally Posted by tylerc904

I watched my copy Friday night after it came (with poster/package folded in half to fit in my mailbox) and it did look beautiful. I'd never actually seen the film from start to finish and while the prom scene is fantastic, and the whole sequence with the mother trying to kill Carrie towards the end was utterly unsettling and creepy, I was surprised how... light the whole thing was. Not light in subject matter (in fact, I felt so horrible for the poor girl throughout the film that it left me sad hours after), but light in scares/gore/and mood.

Even the two most volatile of the teens don't even get a proper send off. The whole thing feels rushed and like there was no chance for a moment to land. The slow-mo sequences also added to the lack of punch. I'm trying to put it in perspective to the time it was released which does give it more sense to be so... understated.

Great movie and I really did enjoy it, but I have to say I was underwhelmed on the "horror" front, especially considering its "classic" status. It really felt like a teen drama with about 10-15 minutes worth of horror.

I honestly think that's what makes this such a stand out classic. Most outright horror movies have such plastic cookie-cutter characters that you don't really care about. When their lives become endangered, you're more of a cheerleader for the 'BIG KILL' and you never really feel that sense of dread.

In Carrie, they actually took time to create proper characters that we identify and feel for. The story unfolds at a proper pace and the tension slowly builds to an earth-shattering climax, and when it all DOES come to the final showdown, most people are on the edge of their seat, riveted and already
committed to the story and characters.

I LOVE movies like this and the points that you bring out I think are actually the very points of STRENGTH to it. But this is just my humble opinion.

[tylerc904]

Originally Posted by OneWayFilms

I honestly think that's what makes this such a stand out classic. Most outright horror movies have such plastic cookie-cutter characters that you don't really care about. When their lives become endangered, you're more of a cheerleader for the 'BIG KILL' and you never really feel that sense of dread.

In Carrie, they actually took time to create proper characters that we identify and feel for. The story unfolds at a proper pace and the tension slowly builds to an earth-shattering climax, and when it all DOES come to the final showdown, most people are on the edge of their seat, riveted and already
committed to the story and characters.

I LOVE movies like this and the points that you bring out I think are actually the very points of STRENGTH to it. But this is just my humble opinion.

Fair enough. I think the film successfully executes the tension, and given most people know what's coming, the dread. I think expectations once again proved to be the problem, I should always ignore hype and derision. I feel like expecting "classic" was where I went wrong.

[cakefactory]

I feel like expecting "scary horror movie" was your big problem. It's a really tragic movie about one character, not a movie where scary stuff happens to freak you out. Only the ending really falls into that category. I know some people view "horror movie that isn't scary" as a failure, which I think is ridiculous.

[tylerc904]

Originally Posted by cakefactory

I feel like expecting "scary horror movie" was your big problem. It's a really tragic movie about one character, not a movie where scary stuff happens to freak you out. Only the ending really falls into that category. I know some people view "horror movie that isn't scary" as a failure, which I think is ridiculous.

I agree with your point, I think my expectations were wrongfully altered by those 100 Scariest Movies and Scariest Moments lists, countdowns, etc. Of course, I shouldn't put much weight into those type of things in general. I think the way the movie is talked about by the masses (i.e - not fans of horror in general!) had me expecting a haunting, terrifying film. Instead I got a rather unsettling mother/daughter story with stellar performances from both Laurie/Spacek, with a prank gone-wrong revenge (that is rather tame for the most part, though that may not have been public opinion in the mid 70's) at the hands of a supernatural teenage girl. I think I enjoyed it more than I realized, but I foolishly expected it to be something it never was.

[AaronJ]

Originally Posted by cakefactory

I feel like expecting "scary horror movie" was your big problem. It's a really tragic movie about one character, not a movie where scary stuff happens to freak you out. Only the ending really falls into that category. I know some people view "horror movie that isn't scary" as a failure, which I think is ridiculous.

Yeah, it's really a film about teen angst, budding sexuality, and being an outsider, being different. The "horror" elements are really just metaphoric.

[OneWayFilms]

Originally Posted by tylerc904

I agree with your point, I think my expectations were wrongfully altered by those 100 Scariest Movies and Scariest Moments lists, countdowns, etc. Of course, I shouldn't put much weight into those type of things in general. I think the way the movie is talked about by the masses (i.e - not fans of horror in general!) had me expecting a haunting, terrifying film. Instead I got a rather unsettling mother/daughter story with stellar performances from both Laurie/Spacek, with a prank gone-wrong revenge (that is rather tame for the most part, though that may not have been public opinion in the mid 70's) at the hands of a supernatural teenage girl. I think I enjoyed it more than I realized, but I foolishly expected it to be something it never was.

Great self-awareness. I think haunting and disturbing might be more appropriate to describe Carrie. Only the ending really seems to fit into the HORROR genre, once the prank happens, from then on out, it becomes a true horror movie for the times it was released in.

I also think today's generation watching it for the first time need to take into account the PERIOD this was made in to be able to appreciate it more.

Movies were different back then in the 70's. They weren't loaded or weighted down with sudden JUMP SCARES every 5 minutes like most "horror" films of today. They didn't have to keep giving us dramatic musical build-ups to build our tension, they actually had character-driven plots that unfolded and drew us in before giving us the POWER-PUNCH!

I wish more movies today were like this again. I miss them.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Rottweiler30

What is it about these 4K remastered titles that turn some blues to green. Same thing happened with Goodfellas didn't it?

It can't be automatic according to some sort of remastering process or we'd have green skies. Why does it affect just some parts of the image?

As mentioned, it depends on who was responsible for the new color grading.

However, my guess is, part of the issue is these older HD transfers were done with NTSC in mind and were never really "correct" in a sense and people got used to them. Many older releases have magenta push, for example. There were compromises in the workflow, mastering, grading process, etc.

[dallywhitty]

Originally Posted by returnofthemack

I've always felt sympathy for mama white. It isn't easy raising a child in these godless times.

I'll drink to that! Or... I'll read these...

Originally Posted by josephga

those folded lines make it worthless imo I just throw the posters away.

Go to your closet and pray for forgiveness.

[cakefactory]

Originally Posted by OneWayFilms

Great self-awareness. I think haunting and disturbing might be more appropriate to describe Carrie. Only the ending really seems to fit into the HORROR genre, once the prank happens, from then on out, it becomes a true horror movie for the times it was released in.

I also think today's generation watching it for the first time need to take into account the PERIOD this was made in to be able to appreciate it more.

Movies were different back then in the 70's. They weren't loaded or weighted down with sudden JUMP SCARES every 5 minutes like most "horror" films of today. They didn't have to keep giving us dramatic musical build-ups to build our tension, they actually had character-driven plots that unfolded and drew us in before giving us the POWER-PUNCH!

I wish more movies today were like this again. I miss them.

Watching the new version of Carrie is a great way to see how idiotic the film would have been if it attempted to be SCARY and EXTREME throughout.

[tylerc904]

Originally Posted by cakefactory

Watching the new version of Carrie is a great way to see how idiotic the film would have been if it attempted to be SCARY and EXTREME throughout.

This, I cannot do. And I say this as a huge Julianne Moore fan!

[rocknblues81]

Originally Posted by cakefactory

I feel like expecting "scary horror movie" was your big problem. It's a really tragic movie about one character, not a movie where scary stuff happens to freak you out. Only the ending really falls into that category. I know some people view "horror movie that isn't scary" as a failure, which I think is ridiculous.

I agree. I think Carrie is the kind of film that sticks with most people after just one viewing. Sort of like The Exorcist. You just can't unsee it.

[greekak229]

Carrie is only considered 'horror' in the sense of the story's elements, but underneath it all is a really just the tragic story of an abused teenager. Her lashing out at the end is more sad than anything because she's reacting out of fear and not anger. It's such a great little film.

[ditcin]

CARRIE is considered to be a horror film only due to the "horrific" aspect to the story. It is a horror film due to the mistreatment of the main character, and the horrible things that happen to her. The film rises above its content to be come a classic on many levels. It excels in presenting the characters in a truthful manner that is consuming and intriguing.
The film picks up speed and keeps moving. It swiftly builds and delivers.

[Ray Jackson]

The only scene I don't like in this classic movie is the scene where

[Show spoiler]the girls have to do extra workout drills as punishment for what they did to Carrie in the shower. It's just so freaking silly, with the music De Palma used, it feels ridiculously out of place with the rest of the film.

Maybe that's a deliberate attempt to mess with audience expectations about what's yet to come--to provide a a strong sense of tonal contrast with the otherwise dark plot...but I just don't it.

[Show spoiler]

[Ray Jackson]

Is there any advantage to ordering directly from Shout, instead of from Amazon?

[AKORIS]

Originally Posted by ditcin

CARRIE is considered to be a horror film only due to the "horrific" aspect to the story. It is a horror film due to the mistreatment of the main character, and the horrible things that happen to her. The film rises above its content to be come a classic on many levels. It excels in presenting the characters in a truthful manner that is consuming and intriguing.
The film picks up speed and keeps moving. It swiftly builds and delivers.

Originally Posted by greekak229

Carrie is only considered 'horror' in the sense of the story's elements, but underneath it all is a really just the tragic story of an abused teenager. Her lashing out at the end is more sad than anything because she's reacting out of fear and not anger. It's such a great little film.

I think that Piper Laurie's performance is what makes this a "horror film".
She's the monster, not Carrie...