Disney Channel's "Wizards Of Waverly Place" Discussion (2007-2012)

[detective392]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

I doubt the show will end like that, they can't really spend 4 seasons building up to the test and then let all 3 kids keep their magic. Max figure out a way to win? The kid is almost special ed dumb, I mean look at the tonics he made to sell during Justin/Harper's marathon.

Yeah true I really meant that Justin will give his powers to Max. No way he could ever win unless it was an accident or something. I don't think I will like the series finale if Max was able to keep his powers unless Alex and Justin had a good reason for giving them up.

[frank drebin]

maybe disney is waiting to see how well ramona and beezus and monte carlo do in theaters before they make a decision to release WOWP 2 in theaters. i'll be there on opening day for ramona and beezus. probably be the oldest person in the theater not with a kid

[detective392]

Originally Posted by frank drebin

maybe disney is waiting to see how well ramona and beezus and monte carlo do in theaters before they make a decision to release WOWP 2 in theaters. i'll be there on opening day for ramona and beezus. probably be the oldest person in the theater not with a kid

Yeah seeing Ramona and Beezus day 1. Luckily I have someone to bring that won't get me any weird looks. I think both movies will do good in theaters and Wizards would also do good since it won't have a huge 100+ million budget to get back.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by detective392

Yeah true I really meant that Justin will give his powers to Max. No way he could ever win unless it was an accident or something. I don't think I will like the series finale if Max was able to keep his powers unless Alex and Justin had a good reason for giving them up.

They do, they're both actually quite intelligent and competent without magic, Alex has actually become a lot like Justin this season. A nicer person that actually participates in school activities and tries new things, it's kind of creepy.

[detective392]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

They do, they're both actually quite intelligent and competent without magic, Alex has actually become a lot like Justin this season. A nicer person that actually participates in school activities and tries new things, it's kind of creepy.

Yeah she has really changed since the first season and seems to be better at magic but overall has changed since the beginning and could do fine without magic.

[Batman1980]

I remember seeing photos of Selena/Alex before WoWP started airing and I just didn't like it or her but now it's one of my top 5 shows of all-time.

[detective392]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

I remember seeing photos of Selena/Alex before WoWP started airing and I just didn't like it or her but now it's one of my top 5 shows of all-time.

Yeah I never thought I would like the show as much as I do but Disney has really changed the way they do shows. The characters grow and actually get older. I mean Justin is graduating this year and Jackson from Hannah is already in college. Before characters wouldn't even age unless it was part of the episode or something.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by detective392

Yeah I never thought I would like the show as much as I do but Disney has really changed the way they do shows. The characters grow and actually get older. I mean Justin is graduating this year and Jackson from Hannah is already in college. Before characters wouldn't even age unless it was part of the episode or something.

I disagree on Hannah Montana, honestly it seems like the writers still think the kids are 12 years old at times. The WoWP writers do a much better job and it shows in the quality of the respective shows' episodes.

[detective392]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

I disagree on Hannah Montana, honestly it seems like the writers still think the kids are 12 years old at times. The WoWP writers do a much better job and it shows in the quality of the respective shows' episodes.

Yeah but they are still moving up grades at least that's something. But yeah they haven't really changed much except for Oliver becoming a singer and things.

[Batman1980]

I like the transition on WoWP lately, the parents aren't on it as much any more, which gives the writers the opportunity to focus more on the 3 kids and the people they interact with. I love Jerry and Theresa but the kids are almost grown up now and Justin is at the end of his normal wizard training so parent characters are no longer that necessary. I wouldn't be surprised either to see the elder Russos become almost completely phased out in season 4, heck you never see Theresa's mother any more.

[detective392]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

I like the transition on WoWP lately, the parents aren't on it as much any more, which gives the writers the opportunity to focus more on the 3 kids and the people they interact with. I love Jerry and Theresa but the kids are almost grown up now and Justin is at the end of his normal wizard training so parent characters are no longer that necessary. I wouldn't be surprised either to see the elder Russos become almost completely phased out in season 4, heck you never see Theresa's mother any more.

Yeah even though I like Jerry it's interesting to see how they handle problems without parents and also grow and do things on there own.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by detective392

Yeah even though I like Jerry it's interesting to see how they handle problems without parents and also grow and do things on there own.

One thing I don't get is they

[Show spoiler]killed Stevie, granted they did it to save the Wizard World from being destroyed but they still didn't receive any consequences for it whatsoever.

[detective392]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

One thing I don't get is they

[Show spoiler]killed Stevie, granted they did it to save the Wizard World from being destroyed but they still didn't receive any consequences for it whatsoever.

Yeah that did surprise me that Disney actually allowed it. But I don't think they could get any consequences because it would either be

[Show spoiler]going to wizard jail or whatever they have

and anything else would seem stupid and little with what they did so I think they just ignored that part.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by detective392

Yeah that did surprise me that Disney actually allowed it. But I don't think they could get any consequences because it would either be

[Show spoiler]going to wizard jail or whatever they have

and anything else would seem stupid and little with what they did so I think they just ignored that part.

The most logical things to do I think would've been to
Banish them from the wizarding world
Revoke their magical abilities
Somehow notify the human authorities and let them decide on their punishments according to our laws.

[detective392]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

The most logical things to do I think would've been to
Banish them from the wizarding world
Revoke their magical abilities
Somehow notify the human authorities and let them decide on their punishments according to our laws.

But how could they get there magical abilities back or get unbanned from the wizarding world? I mean nothing they do would make up for what they did.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by detective392

But how could they get there magical abilities back or get unbanned from the wizarding world? I mean nothing they do would make up for what they did.

Yeah I know, just noodling around with ideas. Stuff like that tends to happen between new episodes. Again, surprised at how much I liked the "Tom Sawyer" episode, since Max is easily the worst of the main characters.

[detective392]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

Yeah I know, just noodling around with ideas. Stuff like that tends to happen between new episodes. Again, surprised at how much I liked the "Tom Sawyer" episode, since Max is easily the worst of the main characters.

Yeah sometimes I find Max funny with the stupid things he does but sometimes it just kinda get's annoying.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by detective392

Yeah sometimes I find Max funny with the stupid things he does but sometimes it just kinda get's annoying.

I hate Moises Arias but I liked that having him around made Max a better character a bit, outside of unleashing a pack of monsters onto Manhattan.

[detective392]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

I hate Moises Arias but I liked that having him around made Max a better character a bit, outside of unleashing a pack of monsters onto Manhattan.

Yeah I can't really stand him and hate him on Hannah. But yeah he did make Max a better character except for the whole monsters thing. Wonder what he will be like at the end of the series.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by detective392

Yeah I can't really stand him and hate him on Hannah. But yeah he did make Max a better character except for the whole monsters thing. Wonder what he will be like at the end of the series.

Probably a lot like their Uncle Kelbo, still a complete ditz but a little smarter and hopefully careful with using his powers in public.