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Old 06-12-2010, 10:42 AM   #81
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I want to buy pioneer 920, but I have some doubts:

1. With 1080p 24 hz signals, everything fine?
2. It's possible pass throught hdmi signal to TV when the reciever it's in standby, and change he hdmi input in standby

Thanks, and sorry for my english?
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Old 06-12-2010, 01:46 PM   #82
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I want to buy pioneer 920, but I have some doubts:

1. With 1080p 24 hz signals, everything fine?
2. It's possible pass throught hdmi signal to TV when the reciever it's in standby, and change he hdmi input in standby

Thanks, and sorry for my english?
#1, yes everything's fine with this.

#2, I think you can choose to use the TV volume and not the receiver's but the receiver has to be on for this. There might be something I've missed though.
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Old 06-12-2010, 02:02 PM   #83
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I want to buy pioneer 920, but I have some doubts:

1. With 1080p 24 hz signals, everything fine?
2. It's possible pass throught hdmi signal to TV when the reciever it's in standby, and change he hdmi input in standby

Thanks, and sorry for my english?
Yeah I just used it last night 1080p 24p because my sammy wouldn't play from paris with love, so I did it on my ps3 and I was playing around with the settings in the ps3 and saw the 24p and figured I'd click it, well it did a little check to make sure my tv supported it and then poof great playback.

Yes I was messing around with either my fios (cable company) or my blu-ray player and the receiver was off and my tv was on and all of a sudden it went through a cycle and poof it started playing without even being on
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Old 06-12-2010, 02:28 PM   #84
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If you're watching Blu-rays, then your 1020 should automatically be pushing whatever high-def audio that movie has. If the movie has TrueHD, then you will automatically be listening to True-HD... same goes with DTS-HD-MA. If you use the PS3 as your Blu-ray player, press select while watching the movie, and it'll tell you on the top what type of audio format you're listening to, and what the bitrate it is.
That's only certain with DTS-HD MA due to its "core + extension" model; every BD player will play at least the DTS core of a DTS-HD MA track, so there's no issue with making it the default.

Since TrueHD & multichannel LPCM are separate tracks that some BD players won't play, they can't be made defaults without special scripts, which are only now becoming common (mainly with TrueHD). Most older TrueHD films, including TDK, default to DD; TrueHD must be selected manually. Same with LPCM 5.1+ except its default could be DD, DTS, or LPCM 2.0.
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Old 06-12-2010, 11:10 PM   #85
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Yeah I just used it last night 1080p 24p because my sammy wouldn't play from paris with love, so I did it on my ps3 and I was playing around with the settings in the ps3 and saw the 24p and figured I'd click it, well it did a little check to make sure my tv supported it and then poof great playback.

Yes I was messing around with either my fios (cable company) or my blu-ray player and the receiver was off and my tv was on and all of a sudden it went through a cycle and poof it started playing without even being on
Can you confirm this for me? You have your cable
box plugged into your receiver with hdmi, and with the receiver off you were able to still watch cable? Is there somekind of setting you have to mess with for this to work?
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Old 06-13-2010, 12:01 AM   #86
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Can you confirm this for me? You have your cable
box plugged into your receiver with hdmi, and with the receiver off you were able to still watch cable? Is there somekind of setting you have to mess with for this to work?
100% sure because it just came on and I'm about 6 feet from my amp and it was most definitely off.

also if I turn my blu-ray player on and nothing else the amp makes a quite click noise which tells me its probably the passthrough kicking on.

I didn't play with any settings other than the remote codes, and the advanced McAcc
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Old 06-13-2010, 12:37 PM   #87
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100% sure because it just came on and I'm about 6 feet from my amp and it was most definitely off.

also if I turn my blu-ray player on and nothing else the amp makes a quite click noise which tells me its probably the passthrough kicking on.

I didn't play with any settings other than the remote codes, and the advanced McAcc
Advanced mcacc, wait do you have the 920?
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Old 06-13-2010, 05:39 PM   #88
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Advanced mcacc, wait do you have the 920?
Nah I have the 1020-k, but I just did it again with my blu-ray player, I just turned on the bd player and tv, and it made a clicking noise like it powered on, only in the input select it brought up the hdmi that is my pioneer and when clicked it plays through the tv speakers

I wasn't too impressed with the internet radio with the last fm's and Pandoras out their you'd think they'd get one of those, but its basically just free stations, which is better then nothing but I'd rather play pandora through my bd player if I was going to use it at all.

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Old 06-14-2010, 01:22 AM   #89
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Nah I have the 1020-k, but I just did it again with my blu-ray player, I just turned on the bd player and tv, and it made a clicking noise like it powered on, only in the input select it brought up the hdmi that is my pioneer and when clicked it plays through the tv speakers

I wasn't too impressed with the internet radio with the last fm's and Pandoras out their you'd think they'd get one of those, but its basically just free stations, which is better then nothing but I'd rather play pandora through my bd player if I was going to use it at all.
I see, I thought the other guy was asking about the 920, which I also have....and I don't think has any passthrough capabilities. Just checking to see if I had missed something on my own receiver.
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Old 06-16-2010, 07:03 AM   #90
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It's interesting to note that the US version of the 920k is actually not the same as the UK version.

The US misses Advanced MCACC, Sound Retriver AIR, Iphone app control, Ethernet and PQLS, where as the UK version has all of these features. It lacks some inputs compared to the 1020.
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Old 06-17-2010, 04:59 AM   #91
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I have a new subject that maybe you guys can tackle as I am new to this "audiophil-ism" (is that a word?! hahaha) anyways -

I have a pioneer vsx 1020k. Two definitive technology tower speakers and a center speaker. I have hooked up all speakers and used a RCA splitter to hook up both my subs from my towers.

OK.
Now the issue:

The MCACC calibration is simple to set up but not functional. I CANT GET IT TO FUNCTION WITH MY SYSTEM - MY CENTER SPEAKER IS NOT OUTPUTTING ANY SOUND when using the Adv MCACC or Stereo setting from the receiver. Now I can get all speakers to work when I change the settings to Standard or Adv Surround.

So why cant the receiver utilize all speakers with the Adv MCACC or Stereo settings?

So in conclusion, only the towers are functioning with the Adv MCACC and Stereo setting. Any ideas
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Old 06-17-2010, 02:11 PM   #92
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Hey guys,
I have recently found out that european and american model of VSX-920significantly differ. I am adding this because I live in Europe but since the US market is still much cheaper I intend to get either VSX-1020 or VSX-920 from the U.S. (It just takes a voltage converter). According to the manuals of VSX-920 on european Pioneer sites, the difference is as follows:

european VSX-920:
Output Power per Channel 140W
Impedance at Output Level 6Ω
Signal / Noise Ratio 100 dB
Input Connections • 4 x HDMI (1080p upscaling)
• 5 x Composite
• 2 x Component
• 1 x Coaxial
• 2 x Optical
• 1 x USB host
• 1 x iPod/iPhone Digital via USB (cable included)
• 1 x Ethernet
• 1 x Bluetooth adapter port for AS-BT100
Power Consumption (in use / standby) 245 W / 0.60 W .
Weight 10,1 kg .
Dimensions (W x H x D) 420 x 158 x 379 mm

US VSX-920:
110W/8Ω
signal to noise ratio: 98dB
NO ethernet port
9.7 Kg


Another strange thing is that US VSX-920 has a character display with low-profile fonts (just like VSX-820,520..) whereas european VSX-920 has it identical with VSX-1020..
finally, the rear side of US VSX-920 looks totally different than at the european model (which is again almost the same as VSX-1020)

Do you think that all of the power features differ by voltage level (US 110V/60Hz, EU 220-230V/50Hz)? What about the lacking 0,5 Kg (1 pound) of weight?
Well, I eventually get to think that the US VSX-920 has been made as a lower profile comparing to the same one made for Europe..
Thanks for opinions

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Old 06-17-2010, 02:36 PM   #93
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My Jamos are 6 ohms; Pioneers receivers can powered 6 ohms speakers?

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I have a new subject that maybe you guys can tackle as I am new to this "audiophil-ism" (is that a word?! hahaha) anyways -

I have a pioneer vsx 1020k. Two definitive technology tower speakers and a center speaker. I have hooked up all speakers and used a RCA splitter to hook up both my subs from my towers.

OK.
Now the issue:

The MCACC calibration is simple to set up but not functional. I CANT GET IT TO FUNCTION WITH MY SYSTEM - MY CENTER SPEAKER IS NOT OUTPUTTING ANY SOUND when using the Adv MCACC or Stereo setting from the receiver. Now I can get all speakers to work when I change the settings to Standard or Adv Surround.

So why cant the receiver utilize all speakers with the Adv MCACC or Stereo settings?

So in conclusion, only the towers are functioning with the Adv MCACC and Stereo setting. Any ideas
Are you getting the test tone out of the center speaker when you run Advanced MCACC? If so, are you getting a "Yes" next to "C" on the menu after the initial calibration test?

The Stereo setting will only utilize the front 2 towers and possibly the subwoofer, if you have one. There is no option to use a center in this listening mode.

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Old 06-17-2010, 03:56 PM   #95
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My Jamos are 6 ohms; Pioneers receivers can powered 6 ohms speakers?

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...any one?
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Old 06-17-2010, 04:54 PM   #96
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...any one?
I would stay with the upper Pioneers, either the 1120 or the elites... for 6 ohm speakers
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I would stay with the upper Pioneers, either the 1120 or the elites... for 6 ohm speakers
Thank you Callas!
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My Jamos are 6 ohms; Pioneers receivers can powered 6 ohms speakers?

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These receivers will power 6ohm speakers fine as specified in the manuals. However, if you have inefficient speakers you may want to move up to an Elite, or look at a Harman or Onkyo 608 or higher since these receivers have beefier power supplies.

The Onkyo 708 runs about the same price as the VSX-1120 and it would be better suited for an inefficient 6ohm speaker. I don't know which Jamos you have, but some of their speakers are pretty efficient while others aren't. What's the sensitivity of yours?

Come to think of it you should look at THIS Onkyo RC180 for $549.77 shipped if you don't need HDMI 1.4 and 3D capabilities. Its one of the best deals going right now. This receiver is virtually identical to the TX-NR807 which initially retailed for $1000. This will power your speakers with ease.
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