The Studio Ghibli (JP) Discussion Thread - Page 5 - Blu-ray Forum

svenge · 08-15-2011, 02:07 AM

Wow, a re-release and Ghibli's two worst films. I am so not excited.

manicsounds · 08-15-2011, 02:10 AM

on the Howl extras, that should be interview with Pete Docter, not interview with Beat Doctor but I would like to see a Beat Doctor....

muhootsaver · 08-15-2011, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by manicsounds

on the Howl extras, that should be interview with Pete Docter, not interview with Beat Doctor but I would like to see a Beat Doctor....

fixed. Thanks

elite · 08-15-2011, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by svenge

Wow, a re-release and Ghibli's two worst films. I am so not excited.

I would have to disagree about Howl's Moving Castle, in fact, it's one of my favorite movies from Studio Ghibli. I do agree about Tales from Earthsea being one of their weakest movies, as well as Pom Poko for me. Tales from Earthsea should look quite stunning on blu-ray though, it's one of their nicest looking movies.

svenge · 08-15-2011, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by elite

I would have to disagree about Howl's Moving Castle, in fact, it's one of my favorite movies from Studio Ghibli. I do agree about Tales from Earthsea being one of their weakest movies, as well as Pom Poko for me. Tales from Earthsea should look quite stunning on blu-ray though, it's one of their nicest looking movies.

Howl's is completely disjointed, and Miyazaki let his usually-constrained left-wing inclinations run wild (most likely due to world events occuring at the time of production). Due to that, the entire film turned into a preachy mess, much more so than even Laputa. At least Laputa was entertaining as an adventure film, which is more than I can say for "Howl's".

As for Earthsea, that's what happens when you don't have enough good young talent in the pipeline and fall back on nepotism to fill positions. If Yoshifumi Kondō (director of "Whisper of the Heart") hadn't died in 1998, I doubt that Goro Miyazaki would've ever been chosen to direct a Ghibli film. A loss on both fronts if you ask me.

DangerousG · 08-15-2011, 03:17 AM

Ugh, where the hell is my Totoro and Kiki?!?

ImportFanatic · 08-15-2011, 03:23 AM

I'm actually really excited for the matching artwork Ponyo re-release xD

Zen_Amako · 08-15-2011, 03:34 AM

I'll be passing on Howl's Moving Castle. I think I'll just stick with the DVD for that one, even when the cheaper UK and US BDs come out. I just found it mediocre. Never saw Earthsea.

Like most people, I'm waiting for Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away, although Kiki's Delivery Service, Porco Rosso, or Only Yesterday would be welcome.

OrlandoEastwood · 08-15-2011, 07:08 AM

The Japanese Ponyo re-release copied the German artwork.

svenge · 08-15-2011, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by OrlandoEastwood

The Japanese Ponyo re-release copied the German artwork.

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Where do you think the Germans got the source image from in the first place?

GC Riot · 08-15-2011, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by W_T_K

The covers for Howl's Moving Castle, Gedo Senki (Tales from Earthsea), and Ponyo (re-release):

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Oh my god! Yes! Howl is one of my favourite Ghibli and Earthsea is severely underrated if you ask me. Day one for sure!

I absolutely love the simplicity and iconography of these covers. Brilliant!

manicsounds · 08-15-2011, 01:11 PM

I wasn't sure about upgrading Howl, as I bought the expensive 4 disc DVD when it was released, but just looking at the discs, I see some bizarre laser-rot looking marks around all 4 discs. I guess I will have to be rebuying, but I will wait for the UK discs as I can wait a few extra months for it.

But I wonder why the Diana Wynn Jones interview and the Moebius interview were not listed...

Jasonic · 08-16-2011, 02:42 AM

So the ones that have English language are the Disney Dubs right? If so, then I may very well consider getting Laputa, Howl, and Whisper of the Heart. Though importing is quite expensive.
I just can't watch them any other way then through the dubs. Disney has done a fantastic job with them IMO, and they are just way more personable and enjoyable for me viewing in my own language and not having to read subs.

Waiting for Disney to release these is like waiting for gas prices to move back into the 1 to 2 dollar range. Sporadic chances and may never happen.

manicsounds · 08-16-2011, 03:38 AM

I personally can't sit through dubs. Just like I can't sit through a pixar movie dubbed into Japanese, I can't sit through a Ghibli film in anything else than Japanese.

I'm closer to the Jim Jarmusch sense of 'no dubbing'. It just doesn't work unless the work was planned on being dubbed in the first place. ("The Beast Of Yucca Flats"...? hm, bad example there.)

AnimeOnBlu · 08-16-2011, 03:53 AM

Looking at the covers for Howl's and Earthsea, I wonder why Ghibli is now putting the English title on the front?

j_Diz · 08-16-2011, 03:58 AM

Maybe its because the stories they are based on? I think Howl's is a british novel series, not sure about Earthsea.

The other reason is that they are trying to better market these to a global audience.

While its not my favorite, Howl is a great animated film. I think it has a lot of charm and for some reason I love watching her clean up that dingy old place. Must be cause I'm a clean freak. I actually used to turn this movie on a lot while I was cooking in the kitchen, I love a good orchestral score and this one really stands out.

AnimeOnBlu · 08-18-2011, 04:15 AM

Enough arguing about subs vs dubs. Argument has been done to death and we don't need arguing about it in the thread.

Jasonic · 08-18-2011, 04:21 AM

Really? deleting the posts? arg!

No one did answer my question that the dubs on these are the Disney ones right? Its just that some of these movies have had multiple dubbings.

AnimeOnBlu · 08-18-2011, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jasonic

Really? deleting the posts? arg!

No one did answer my question that the dubs on these are the Disney ones right? Its just that some of these movies have had multiple dubbings.

Yes, they all use the Disney dub except for Arrietty which had no dub at the time it was released.

wesslan · 08-18-2011, 07:13 AM

Finally found specifications on HK disc of Nausicaä. Different from the others but many say it "look" the same as JP but so much lower bitrate should be visible in fast moving scenes though I'm not sure 16bit vs 24bit audio is a audible difference.

JP LPCM 2.0 24bit 2304 kbps, AVC 39548 kbps
UK LPCM 2.0 24bit 1536 kbps, AVC 31170 kbps
HK LPCM 2.0 16bit 1536 kbps, AVC 25000 kbps
US DTS-HD 2.0 24bit 2110 kbps, AVC 24100 kbps

08-16-2011, 03:58 AM	#96
j_Diz Active Member Member since:Oct 2009	Maybe its because the stories they are based on? I think Howl's is a british novel series, not sure about Earthsea. The other reason is that they are trying to better market these to a global audience. While its not my favorite, Howl is a great animated film. I think it has a lot of charm and for some reason I love watching her clean up that dingy old place. Must be cause I'm a clean freak. I actually used to turn this movie on a lot while I was cooking in the kitchen, I love a good orchestral score and this one really stands out. Last edited by j_Diz; 08-16-2011 at 04:03 AM.

08-15-2011, 02:07 AM	#81
svenge Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Washington State 4K collection:17 Blu-ray collection:474 DVD collection:157 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:67	Wow, a re-release and Ghibli's two worst films. I am so not excited.

08-15-2011, 02:10 AM	#82
manicsounds Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Tokyo 4K collection:227 Blu-ray collection:4992 Blu-ray reviews: 99	on the Howl extras, that should be interview with Pete Docter, not interview with Beat Doctor but I would like to see a Beat Doctor....

08-15-2011, 03:17 AM	#86
DangerousG Active Member Member since:May 2009 Blu-ray collection:438	Ugh, where the hell is my Totoro and Kiki?!?

08-15-2011, 03:23 AM	#87
ImportFanatic Expert Member Member since:Jul 2010 Location:United States Blu-ray collection:489 DVD collection:3	I'm actually really excited for the matching artwork Ponyo re-release xD

08-15-2011, 03:34 AM	#88
Zen_Amako Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Northern VA, USA 4K collection:255 Blu-ray collection:659 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:13	I'll be passing on Howl's Moving Castle. I think I'll just stick with the DVD for that one, even when the cheaper UK and US BDs come out. I just found it mediocre. Never saw Earthsea. Like most people, I'm waiting for Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away, although Kiki's Delivery Service, Porco Rosso, or Only Yesterday would be welcome.

08-15-2011, 07:08 AM	#89
OrlandoEastwood Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:R-Point Blu-ray reviews:86 Trading Score:24	The Japanese Ponyo re-release copied the German artwork.

08-15-2011, 01:11 PM	#92
manicsounds Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Tokyo 4K collection:227 Blu-ray collection:4992 Blu-ray reviews: 99	I wasn't sure about upgrading Howl, as I bought the expensive 4 disc DVD when it was released, but just looking at the discs, I see some bizarre laser-rot looking marks around all 4 discs. I guess I will have to be rebuying, but I will wait for the UK discs as I can wait a few extra months for it. But I wonder why the Diana Wynn Jones interview and the Moebius interview were not listed...

08-16-2011, 02:42 AM	#93
Jasonic Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Aug 2011 Location:Utah 4K collection:47 Blu-ray collection:876 Trading Score:115	So the ones that have English language are the Disney Dubs right? If so, then I may very well consider getting Laputa, Howl, and Whisper of the Heart. Though importing is quite expensive. I just can't watch them any other way then through the dubs. Disney has done a fantastic job with them IMO, and they are just way more personable and enjoyable for me viewing in my own language and not having to read subs. Waiting for Disney to release these is like waiting for gas prices to move back into the 1 to 2 dollar range. Sporadic chances and may never happen.

08-16-2011, 03:38 AM	#94
manicsounds Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Tokyo 4K collection:227 Blu-ray collection:4992 Blu-ray reviews: 99	I personally can't sit through dubs. Just like I can't sit through a pixar movie dubbed into Japanese, I can't sit through a Ghibli film in anything else than Japanese. I'm closer to the Jim Jarmusch sense of 'no dubbing'. It just doesn't work unless the work was planned on being dubbed in the first place. ("The Beast Of Yucca Flats"...? hm, bad example there.)

08-16-2011, 03:53 AM	#95
AnimeOnBlu Contributor Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:USA Trading Score:1	Looking at the covers for Howl's and Earthsea, I wonder why Ghibli is now putting the English title on the front?

08-18-2011, 04:15 AM	#97
AnimeOnBlu Contributor Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:USA Trading Score:1	Enough arguing about subs vs dubs. Argument has been done to death and we don't need arguing about it in the thread.

08-18-2011, 04:21 AM	#98
Jasonic Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Aug 2011 Location:Utah 4K collection:47 Blu-ray collection:876 Trading Score:115	Really? deleting the posts? arg! No one did answer my question that the dubs on these are the Disney ones right? Its just that some of these movies have had multiple dubbings.

08-18-2011, 07:13 AM	#100
wesslan Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2010 Location:Sweden Blu-ray reviews:1	Finally found specifications on HK disc of Nausicaä. Different from the others but many say it "look" the same as JP but so much lower bitrate should be visible in fast moving scenes though I'm not sure 16bit vs 24bit audio is a audible difference. JP LPCM 2.0 24bit 2304 kbps, AVC 39548 kbps UK LPCM 2.0 24bit 1536 kbps, AVC 31170 kbps HK LPCM 2.0 16bit 1536 kbps, AVC 25000 kbps US DTS-HD 2.0 24bit 2110 kbps, AVC 24100 kbps

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