The Dark Knight Rises Box Office Thread

[DaFees]

Alright here's my opinions:

Opening day: $100,000,000+

Why, because unlike when TDK came I didn't see advertisements to pre-purchase your tickets like I am seeing with TDKR. Add to that that this tickets are selling out and some people are going as far as to sell their tickets on eBay. Yes some tickets have even sold (check for yourself if you don't believe me). This show's people really want to see it.

Opening weekend: $190,000,000

I say this because again people want to see it but it isn't in 3D so you can't bank on that 3D premium charge. Add to that a longer run time meaning less shows, which means this will do well but not well enough to top Avengers. I will only be wrong if theaters defy their normal conventions and add extra shows on Saturday and Sunday even if that meant having to open earlier and/or close later.

Overall Domestic Gross: $600,000,000+

I think once people see this once they'll want to see it again. Yes it will be an epic film and maybe your body can only handle so much epicness at one time. I feel, however it will be sort of like Blade Runner, you watch it once for the story line, then you will want to see it again and again to pick apart every part of the film and what you see. Sort of like how Avatar sucked people in but not as much in this case. Add to that, word of mouth! People will beg other people who are on the fence that they should go see it. Some might be thinking that no Joker equals no go, but once people see it they will convince these other people otherwise. I think this will top TDK but only match the Avengers as best. I say this again because of there being no 3D.

Overall Worldwide Gross: 1,500,000,000+

I just think with this being the last movie in the trilogy it will clearly do better in the foreign markets than TDK did. Fun fact: Did you know that out of the top 50 highest grossing films of all time, TDK, ET and the original Star Wars are the only films in the top 50 to gross more domestically than they did in foreign markets. I think with all the international appeal I see TDKR getting it will not suffer the same fate as TDK which is why I think it will gross so much overall.

That's all for now. You may not agree and that's fine, but honestly we won't know exactly who on here is right until opening weekend arrives for which I cannot wait!

[Gilmourfan]

Originally Posted by DaFees

Alright here's my opinions:

Opening day: $100,000,000+

Why, because unlike when TDK came I didn't see advertisements to pre-purchase your tickets like I am seeing with TDKR. Add to that that this tickets are selling out and some people are going as far as to sell their tickets on eBay. Yes some tickets have even sold (check for yourself if you don't believe me). This show's people really want to see it.

Opening weekend: $190,000,000

I say this because again people want to see it but it isn't in 3D so you can't bank on that 3D premium charge. Add to that a longer run time meaning less shows, which means this will do well but not well enough to top Avengers. I will only be wrong if theaters defy their normal conventions and add extra shows on Saturday and Sunday even if that meant having to open earlier and/or close later.

Overall Domestic Gross: $600,000,000+

I think once people see this once they'll want to see it again. Yes it will be an epic film and maybe your body can only handle so much epicness at one time. I feel, however it will be sort of like Blade Runner, you watch it once for the story line, then you will want to see it again and again to pick apart every part of the film and what you see. Sort of like how Avatar sucked people in but not as much in this case. Add to that, word of mouth! People will beg other people who are on the fence that they should go see it. Some might be thinking that no Joker equals no go, but once people see it they will convince these other people otherwise. I think this will top TDK but only match the Avengers as best. I say this again because of there being no 3D.

Overall Worldwide Gross: 1,500,000,000+

I just think with this being the last movie in the trilogy it will clearly do better in the foreign markets than TDK did. Fun fact: Did you know that out of the top 50 highest grossing films of all time, TDK, ET and the original Star Wars are the only films in the top 50 to gross more domestically than they did in foreign markets. I think with all the international appeal I see TDKR getting it will not suffer the same fate as TDK which is why I think it will gross so much overall.

That's all for now. You may not agree and that's fine, but honestly we won't know exactly who on here is right until opening weekend arrives for which I cannot wait!

If it grosses $100M+ on its opening day, $200M+ is guaranteed for the opening weekend.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

I don't care how amazing of a film it is. I'll see it MAYBE twice maximum. It just seems like it will be too serious a film to have many repeat viewings in such a short frame of time as a theatrical run.

The Avengers was just so much fun that I had no problem going in to laugh and enjoy some unique action again... and again... and again! I had no problem watching that 3 times in the first week it was open. I just don't see myself being able to tolerate the gravitas of a Batman film over and over again in the same fashion. Likewise, I don't think that everyone and their children will feel the same way.

This is why I believe that it will do good numbers the first two weekends but will drop sharply soon after... quicker than most believe it will. It will get repeat viewings from the Batman uber-nerds, but not nearly as many repeat viewings as The Avengers did.

Don't get me wrong. The film could be amazing. But I doubt that it will have the "pure fun" factor to draw huge crowds back to it that will make for a $600,000,000 domestic take + $900,000,000.

[Jack Burton]

Originally Posted by AmrlKJaneway

Yeah, harsh word... I have this "less than it deserves but still healthy" feeling. I don't know anything about money, but I think it will be less than Batman Begins.

I love Bats, don't get me wrong. But they underwhelming trailers, and lack of any public interest give me this "disturbance in the force".

Bane is my favourite villain. Opening day, money permitting (at least it's 2D).

Lack of public interest, this is a joke right. Every site about movies which i go on, has more hits on this film than any other, even this one. The experts who monitor viral information say this film shoots around faster than any other in the last 5 years.

Tickets have nearly sold out on openining night in my local cinema, thats not even heard of at my cinema 4 weeks before its released, even Avengers was easy to walk in on opening night for me.

Can this film take more than The Avengers, very much doubt it since Avengers had 3D, every kid over 7 wanted to see it more than once, and more screening time in a day, but again who cares if its beats it or not, this film will still make piles of money.

Since Inception Nolan alone now can draw big crowds, he is box office gold, more so than any other director right now, even more than James C i would say. Combine that with his last Batman and your living a dream if you think there is no public interest for this film.

[Lukesablade]

Originally Posted by Jack Burton

Lack of public interest, this is a joke right. Every site about movies which i go on, has more hits on this film than any other, even this one. The experts who monitor viral information say this film shoots around faster than any other in the last 5 years.

Tickets have nearly sold out on openining night in my local cinema, thats not even heard of at my cinema 4 weeks before its released, even Avengers was easy to walk in on opening night for me.

Since Inception Nolan alone now can draw big crowds, he is box office gold, more so than any other director right now, even more than James C i would say. Combine that with his last Batman and your living a dream if you think there is no public interest for this film.

Where can i like this?lol.

P.s-awesome name,love that film.

[Jack Burton]

Originally Posted by Lukesablade

Where can i like this quote?lol.

P.s-awesome name,love that film.

Combined two quotes. You know what Jack Burton always says at a time like this

" who " me Jack Burton, " have you paid your dues Jack " , Yeah its in the post.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by Jack Burton

Lack of public interest, this is a joke right. Every site about movies which i go on, has more hits on this film than any other, even this one. The experts who monitor viral information say this film shoots around faster than any other in the last 5 years.

Tickets have nearly sold out on openining night in my local cinema, thats not even heard of at my cinema 4 weeks before its released, even Avengers was easy to walk in on opening night for me.

Can this film take more than The Avengers, very much doubt it since Avengers had 3D, every kid over 7 wanted to see it more than once, and more screening time in a day, but again who cares if its beats it or not, this film will still make piles of money.

Since Inception Nolan alone now can draw big crowds, he is box office gold, more so than any other director right now, even more than James C i would say. Combine that with his last Batman and your living a dream if you think there is no public interest for this film.

And herein lies the unknown variable to the equation...

Yes, public interest is high. Everyone wants to see it. But, how BADLY does everyone want to see it? I just don't get the sense that as many people are "OMG"-ing over it as much as is being let on. I believe that it is more of an "interest to see it" than an "excitement to see it" scenario. And will that interest to see it carry it over the threshold in the long run? Something tells me it will sprint the first 2 weekends and then trip hard on the 3rd because it won't have a high rewatchibility factor for the general public.

[Jack Burton]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

And herein lies the unknown variable to the equation...

Yes, public interest is high. Everyone wants to see it. But, how BADLY does everyone want to see it? I just don't get the sense that as many people are "OMG"-ing over it as much as is being let on. I believe that it is more of an "interest to see it" than an "excitement to see it" scenario. And will that interest to see it carry it over the threshold in the long run? Something tells me it will sprint the first 2 weekends and then trip hard on the 3rd because it won't have a high rewatchibility factor for the general public.

Yep it might not have the replay value, but the amount of people buying tickets early is a record high in most cinema's for a film 4 weeks aways. You don't do that if your mildly interested. I was talking to the guy about interest, which i think is hugh from the public and the facts back it up. Interest makes you want to watch it at some point, excitment will make you line up on opening night and am sure i will not be able to just walk in with out pre booking for this film.

[AndyD]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

I don't care how amazing of a film it is. I'll see it MAYBE twice maximum. It just seems like it will be too serious a film to have many repeat viewings in such a short frame of time as a theatrical run.

The Avengers was just so much fun that I had no problem going in to laugh and enjoy some unique action again... and again... and again! I had no problem watching that 3 times in the first week it was open. I just don't see myself being able to tolerate the gravitas of a Batman film over and over again in the same fashion. Likewise, I don't think that everyone and their children will feel the same way.

This is why I believe that it will do good numbers the first two weekends but will drop sharply soon after... quicker than most believe it will. It will get repeat viewings from the Batman uber-nerds, but not nearly as many repeat viewings as The Avengers did.

Don't get me wrong. The film could be amazing. But I doubt that it will have the "pure fun" factor to draw huge crowds back to it that will make for a $600,000,000 domestic take + $900,000,000.

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

And herein lies the unknown variable to the equation...

Yes, public interest is high. Everyone wants to see it. But, how BADLY does everyone want to see it? I just don't get the sense that as many people are "OMG"-ing over it as much as is being let on. I believe that it is more of an "interest to see it" than an "excitement to see it" scenario. And will that interest to see it carry it over the threshold in the long run? Something tells me it will sprint the first 2 weekends and then trip hard on the 3rd because it won't have a high rewatchibility factor for the general public.

I agree with both of your posts above. I'll see it myself but I'm not sure if it will be in the cinema or when its released on Blu.
I'm not excited to see it the same way I was for TDK.
Repeat viewings of the TDK may have hampered my anticipation of the TDKR since the TDK is actually quite boring overall.

I think it might just cross the 1 billion mark but only just and I think it will crawl to that mark.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by Jack Burton

Yep it might not have the replay value, but the amount of people buying tickets early is a record high in most cinema's for a film 4 weeks aways. You don't do that if your mildly interested. I was talking to the guy about interest, which i think is hugh from the public and the facts back it up. Interest makes you want to watch it at some point, excitment will make you line up on opening night and am sure i will not be able to just walk in with out pre booking for this film.

And that's why I think that it will fall so hard in subsequent weekends. Everybody wants to see it. They want to see it as soon as possible and theatres are trying to accomodate that. But, after opening weekend a very large percentage of the public will have seen it the one time only that they will. So, I think it will be the first "OMG!!! IT MADE A BAZILLION DOLLARS ON OPENING WEEKEND!!!" films to turn around and do barely anything else afterwards. Records? Maybe, but still doutful.

Having said that, I will also say this... I have been wrong before.

[Jack Burton]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

And that's why I think that it will fall so hard in subsequent weekends. Everybody wants to see it. They want to see it as soon as possible and theatres are trying to accomodate that. But, after opening weekend a very large percentage of the public will have seen it the one time only that they will. So, I think it will be the first "OMG!!! IT MADE A BAZILLION DOLLARS ON OPENING WEEKEND!!!" films to turn around and do barely anything else afterwards. Records? Maybe, but still doutful.

Having said that, I will also say this... I have been wrong before.

You may be right, also depends on the reviews when it first opens. This film will make millions, and i have no doubt it will be in the top 3 biggest selling films this year.

There is a thing going on here which i find very strange with people who write a comment then at some point mention or defend The Avengers for no reason, like they have shares in Marvel or vice Versa on early Avengers thread with people working for WB. There are a certain two people on these forums who i swear are Marvel PR. The work they have done at having a go on the TDKS derailing posts and mentioning The Avengers at every turn is just amazing.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by Jack Burton

You may be right, also depends on the reviews when it first opens. This film will make millions, and i have no doubt it will be in the top 3 biggest selling films this year. There is a thing going on here which i find very strange with people who write a comment then at some point mention or defend The Avengers for no reason, like they have shares in Marvel or vice Versa on early Avengers thread with people working for WB.

You have to remember that the very existence of this thread challenges the notion of the top box office success of the year. And, since The Avengers is king right now, it's only logical for people to drag it into the conversation. Besides, there are some people who honestly believe that TDKR will destroy The Avengers and take out Titanic as #2 on the all-time INITIAL RELEASE box office list.

I'm not saying it's a measure of quality or critical success, it's just what people do. And I think this film won't measure up for several reasons when it comes to the box office numbers.

[Jack Burton]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

You have to remember that the very existence of this thread challenges the notion of the top box office success of the year. And, since The Avengers is king right now, it's only logical for people to drag it into the conversation. Besides, there are some people who honestly believe that TDKR will destroy The Avengers and take out Titanic as #2 on the all-time INITIAL RELEASE box office list.

I'm not saying it's a measure of quality or critical success, it's just what people do. And I think this film won't measure up for several reasons when it comes to the box office numbers.

Yep this thread i understand, it was the normal Avengers and TDKR thread which seems to be at War.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by Jack Burton

Yep this thread i understand, it was the normal Avengers and TDKR thread which seems to be at War.

Well, that's the old story of DC vs. MARVEL fanboyism. It's been going on for decades apparently. The medium of film combined with the ease of access to the internet seems to have only provided a highly combustible fuel to the situation.

[spawningblue]

I'm always been a Marvel fanboy and really enjoyed Avengers. That being said I can almost guarantee this will be the better film and has been my most anticipated film all year. Hell for the last few years. Avengers was a fun roller coaster ride but this will be an epic conclusion to possibly the greatest trilogy of all time. Nolan has yet to let me down, the cast is much better, the script took what two years to write?, and they are coming off the best comic book film of all time IMO The Dark Knight. There are definitely people that have turned their backs on this film and became pro Avengers for some reason (Which I don't get, can't you like both?) but I think there will still be enough fans for this to make a crap load of money on opening weekend. And if it's as good as we hope, and I think it will be, the positive word of mouth will get the Avengers fanboys to check it out as well.

No it will not do as good as the Avengers due to the longer run time, lack of 3D, and not being kid friendly (Children bring in a LOT of cash!), that being said it will still do great, be the second highest grossing movie of the year, and definitely beat TDK.

I say,

OPENING WEEKEND 180 million
DOMESTIC 550 million
WORLDWIDE 1.2 billion

The most important thing though, and not trying to derail this thread, but I think critically it will be the better film and will probably be more remembered years from now. Don't forget folks, TDK is an award winning film!

[mlittle3]

I have no desire to watch Avengers again...once was enough for me. It was like a Power Ranger interpretation of Transformers 3 with a weak villain. The only good things about it were Iron Man and the Hulk. It was not the second coming of cinema by any means. I say this as someone who enjoyed all the other marvel movies, including Captain America: The First Avengers. Avengers was a kiddie movie, Dark Knight Rises looks more like a film. Personally I would rather watch a great film like Dark Knight than some cheese-fest like Avengers.

Too much comedy, the outcome was never in doubt.

I just couldn't take anything in that movie seriously.

[Tony208]

I remember there being more media hype for TDK.

[NARMAK]

Originally Posted by Tony208

I remember there being more media hype for TDK.

Unfortunately that could be attributed to the press and their morbid obession with Heath ledgers death, but this movies tracking really well with a lot of sell out IMAX showings and advance bookings.

They've also started to ramp up viral marketing once again and although not seemingly as good as TDKs, theres quite a bit of time left yet. This probably has to be the first and only franchise that used viral marketing with the easter egg hunt for the joker goodies etc. Don't know if the TDKR has had the same goodies hunt judging by the lack of stuff but there was that little marketing thing where you could find a graffiti at certain points, take a pic and upload it to the site that i remember seeing.

I think Avengers was just pure fun and bright, TDKR is gonna be more gritty and story driven and really more intricate and engage your senses. I'm not sure which i'll prefer given that i haven't seen TDKR yet but my expectations are high and if it's as good as Inception was crafted, this may very well be a treat.

[item9]

Originally Posted by mlittle3

I have no desire to watch Avengers again...once was enough for me. It was like a Power Ranger interpretation of Transformers 3 with a weak villain. The only good things about it were Iron Man and the Hulk. It was not the second coming of cinema by any means. I say this as someone who enjoyed all the other marvel movies, including Captain America: The First Avengers. Avengers was a kiddie movie, Dark Knight Rises looks more like a film. Personally I would rather watch a great film like Dark Knight than some cheese-fest like Avengers.

Too much comedy, the outcome was never in doubt.

I just couldn't take anything in that movie seriously.

I completely agree with this. I loved watching the individual Marvel movies (own them all on blu ray), but the Avengers just seemed cartoony even in comparison to the individual movies. And the whole battle scene at the end reminded me of Transformers (1-3). In a few years, it'll look dated imho

that being said, I can't see TDKR earning more than the Avengers. The Avengers was extremely kid friendly. And as someone mentioned earlier, kids bring in a lot of money.

[joenostalgia23]

Find it unlikely that The Dark Knight Rises will earn more than the Avengers.
Avengers was in 3D, IMAX and it appealed to kids(and being made with Disney was a huge help too). It's the #3 top-grossing movie of all time(unadjusted for inflation. With inflation, it's right above TDK and far below Avatar and Titanic)

That said. It isn't impossible for The Dark Knight Rises to make a huge amount of money.
Like I've said before, looking at all these other franchises, there's little doubt that it will be a huge success and that it'll reach 1 billion. It has everything these other billion-dollar sequels had to reach it except 3D(which is why it probably won't pass any of these named franchises.)
1. It's the "final" film. HP 7.2, Toy Story 3, Pirates 3, Transformers 3, Return of the King. Pirates and Transformers were the last "planned" films at the time.
2. It ends with a war between good and evil(HP 7.2, Transformers 3, Return of the King)
3. It's likely going to have a sentimental farewell(HP 7.2, Toy Story 3, Return of the King)
4. The last movie broke records too(all of the above)
5. Huge franchise(Toy Story, Pirates, Transformers, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings). Christopher Nolan's series basically started the trend of superhero movies that took themselves seriously and gritty reboots. Yes it's a result of the success of the Bourne films, but now the Bourne reboot is kind of a joke to audiences.

And looking at this list of billion dollar films, The movie doesn't need to be the best in the series. It doesn't even have to be a good movie-it'll have over an hour of IMAX-shot action.