The New Scooby-Doo Movies: The (Almost) Complete Collection - June 4, 2019

[redrunner97]

The Phyllis Diller one is amazing, but that Mama Cass episode is GOLDEN.

PLEASE BUY THIS everyone, so we can have a shot at getting the rest on blu-ray as well.

[Jar Jar Stinks]

Originally Posted by redrunner97

The Phyllis Diller is amazing, but that Mama Cass episode is GOLDEN.

PLEASE BUY THIS everyone, so we can have a shot at getting the rest on blu-ray as well.

It depends on how well it's improved. They seem to be taking a Mill Creek approach with this release. Let's be honest, it's only us old people still buying physical media who give a crap about seeing the "stars" of yesteryear team up with Scooby and the gang. This set really should have an additional disc.

If they pull this crap with Jonny Quest, I'm sticking with the DVDs.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by Jar Jar Stinks

It depends on how well it's improved. They seem to be taking a Mill Creek approach with this release. Let's be honest, it's only us old people still buying physical media who give a crap about seeing the "stars" of yesteryear team up with Scooby and the gang. This set really should have an additional disc.

If they pull this crap with Jonny Quest, I'm sticking with the DVDs.

Good thing JQ is being handled by WAC and not WHV.

[Donl1282]

When will preorder be up?

[Jar Jar Stinks]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

Good thing JQ is being handled by WAC and not WHV.

Is there really a different approach used between the two? It often seems the higher bitrates on WAC releases is due to the lack of supplements.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by Donl1282

When will preorder be up?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/The-New-S...-ray/879429525

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchp...t=883929648894

[Donl1282]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

https://www.walmart.com/ip/The-New-S...-ray/879429525

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchp...t=883929648894

Cool thanks!

[McCrutchy]

I think it's really funny how all the specifications reflect a two-disc release except the price. You'd think that if WB were going to skimp on this release, they could bring the price per disc down as a result. Instead, this will probably end up being more expensive than one of their HD video TV seasons where they cram 900-1100 minutes onto four discs. Certainly, the list price is $4.98 extra ($54.97 vs. $49.99), which means that the price per Blu-ray is some $27.48 each. I see that Best Buy has it for $49.99 already, but the most recent seasons of Gotham and Supergirl were $32.99 and $37.99, respectively on their release weeks, so it will be interesting to see where the final sale price gets to before the week of June 4th.

I guess you have to pay the salary of the person who spends the time to crush down the content that much further for this release.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by McCrutchy

I think it's really funny how all the specifications reflect a two-disc release except the price. You'd think that if WB were going to skimp on this release, they could bring the price per disc down as a result. Instead, this will probably end up being more expensive than one of their HD video TV seasons where they cram 900-1100 minutes onto four discs. Certainly, the list price is $4.98 extra ($54.97 vs. $49.99), which means that the price per Blu-ray is some $27.48 each. I see that Best Buy has it for $49.99 already, but the most recent seasons of Gotham and Supergirl were $32.99 and $37.99, respectively on their release weeks, so it will be interesting to see where the final sale price gets to before the week of June 4th.

I guess you have to pay the salary of the person who spends the time to crush down the content that much further for this release.

I'm really surprised WHV is only using 2 discs, but one has to wonder if they don't want it to be listed for less than the DVD version while trying to maximize profit. At least now they'll have an excuse to sell other content if it doesn't sell well.

[DawnShadow]

Originally Posted by Jar Jar Stinks

Is there really a different approach used between the two? It often seems the higher bitrates on WAC releases is due to the lack of supplements.

WAC ports over the existing extras, which is all that's happening here.

We're not guaranteed more discs than this with WAC (but it's very likely), but we are guaranteed uncompressed audio, which we weren't given here.

Now available for pre-order on WBShop (copy and paste link only)
-https://www.wbshop.com/products/the-new-scooby-doo-movies-the-almost-complete-collection-bd-

[kaden1108]

Wait a 5.1 mix? Yeah it sucks that it's lossy, but I curious if these specs are for the wrong Scooby movie.

[Valguest]

The original Scooby Doo Where Are You has been on Prime Video (UK) in HD for at least 2 years and it looks good. It's also 4:3 so I expect the 1.78 ratio is a listing error which fails to mention the video will be 1.33 pillarboxed wthin the 16:9 frame.
Likewise with 5.1 audio. Would prefer the original mono as an option too.
I guess with The Addams Family still missing it means the opening credits will still be slightly re-edited.
Although this fairly basic type of animation doesn't need the bitrate of a high octane movie, fitting 23 x 43m onto 2 discs seems to be pushing things a bit.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by kaden1108

Wait a 5.1 mix? Yeah it sucks that it's lossy, but I curious if these specs are for the wrong Scooby movie.

Originally Posted by Valguest

The original Scooby Doo Where Are You has been on Prime Video (UK) in HD for at least 2 years and it looks good. It's also 4:3 so I expect the 1.78 ratio is a listing error which fails to mention the video will be 1.33 pillarboxed wthin the 16:9 frame.
Likewise with 5.1 audio. Would prefer the original mono as an option too.
I guess with The Addams Family still missing it means the opening credits will still be slightly re-edited.
Although this fairly basic type of animation doesn't need the bitrate of a high octane movie, fitting 23 x 43m onto 2 discs seems to be pushing things a bit.

It's odd, but the DVD version lists English and French Dolby Mono along with the following on its back cover:

Wisescreen version presented in a "matted" widescreen format preserving the aspect ratio of its original television exhibition. Enhanced for widescreen TVs.

[McCrutchy]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

It's odd, but the DVD version lists English and French Dolby Mono along with the following on its back cover:

That could still be someone's interpretation of 4:3 for modern DVD. If I recall correctly, newly-authored DVDs tend to be 16:9 like Blu-rays, so technically, WHV is probably doing the same thing for the new DVD as they are for the Blu-ray: Pillarboxing (or "matting", if you like) 1.33:1 footage inside a 1.78:1 image frame.

In other words, technically, the image is 1.78:1 with only the 1.33:1 picture area used and the sides matted off as black. I think the reason this is mentioned, although the whole marketing of it is absurdly convoluted, is because some older standard definition TVs (probably only 4:3 ones) will show the DVD windowboxed as it's technically a 1.78:1 image--so you would see the black bars on the sides, but also, you would see black bars on the top and bottom, the way that 4:3 TVs used to show any kind of widescreen film.

[DawnShadow]

Originally Posted by McCrutchy

That could still be someone's interpretation of 4:3 for modern DVD. If I recall correctly, newly-authored DVDs tend to be 16:9 like Blu-rays, so technically, WHV is probably doing the same thing for the new DVD as they are for the Blu-ray: Pillarboxing (or "matting", if you like) 1.33:1 footage inside a 1.78:1 image frame.

Isn't that really the only way to interpret it? There's no way of preserving the aspect ratio without doing that.

[McCrutchy]

Originally Posted by DawnShadow

Isn't that really the only way to interpret it? There's no way of preserving the aspect ratio without doing that.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean, given that I was trying to interpret the language WB used, but you can certainly produce DVDs (and Blu-rays) with 4:3 content that is not matted into a 16:9 image, if that's what you're asking.

[DawnShadow]

Originally Posted by McCrutchy

I'm not entirely sure what you mean, given that I was trying to interpret the language WB used, but you can certainly produce DVDs (and Blu-rays) with 4:3 content that is not matted into a 16:9 image, if that's what you're asking.

You said "That could still be someone's interpretation of 4:3 for modern DVD."

What I'm saying is, it definitely is someone's interpretation of 4:3 for modern DVD. There's no other way of it being 16:9 and preserving the original AR.

[McCrutchy]

Originally Posted by DawnShadow

You said "That could still be someone's interpretation of 4:3 for modern DVD."

What I'm saying is, it definitely is someone's interpretation of 4:3 for modern DVD. There's no other way of it being 16:9 and preserving the original AR.

Not necessarily. Your answer seems to assume that WB will present the series in its original aspect ratio of 1.33:1, but while that's likely to be the case, it hasn't been confirmed yet, and people are rightly a bit concerned about the 1.78:1 aspect ratio mentioned on the Blu-ray, which should instead be referring to the 1.33:1 aspect ratio of the series itself.

In fact, the whole point of the post by rdodolak I was originally responding to was about how the very confusing language quoted on the new DVD package further muddles the situation. It appears to be WHV's definition of a DVD that is actually 16:9 pillarboxed 4:3 (as opposed to simply 4:3 1.33:1), but the language used is unnecessarily confusing. All they needed to say is:

Presented in a "pillarbox" format preserving the aspect ratio of its original television exhibition.

The word "widescreen" should not be anywhere in the description if the video is indeed 1.33:1, because 99% of consumers have no idea that modern 4:3 DVDs are now matted into a 16:9 frame, and most people perceive 1.78:1 or "widescreen" as the antithesis of 1.33:1, which, of course, used to be called "fullscreen" or "standard" in the days of 4:3 TVs.

[DawnShadow]

Originally Posted by McCrutchy

Not necessarily. Your answer seems to assume that WB will present the series in its original aspect ratio of 1.33:1

I don't need to assume when it's clearly stated in words:

preserving the aspect ratio of its original television exhibition

[MaskedRider]

I'm torn on this one, do I re-buy the whole series on Blu-Ray or do I just buy the DVD with the 8 missing episodes?