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Old 04-26-2020, 10:49 AM   #81
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So < $50 shipping is expensive, as I wrote?
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Old 04-26-2020, 10:51 AM   #82
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So < $50 shipping is expensive, as I wrote?
Can't recall the exact numbers but it was enough to where if I couldn't find $50+ I'd just wait until I saw enough to qualify for the free shipping.
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I order about 6 or 7 movies and they shipped so quickly I was truly shocked. Kino is great!
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Old 04-26-2020, 10:35 PM   #84
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Oh, man. I was on the fence about getting it because I read it's so terrible. I probably should have gotten it, though.
It's certainly not a great film on any level, but it is often unintentionally hilarious-- especially some of the bad acting. I enjoy it for that, and it does have some surprisingly gory scenes, especially for a 1980 movie. It's also a groundbreaking slasher film for actually predating most of the slasher films that most people know, such as the original "Friday the 13th" film and all of its many imitators. "To All A Goodnight," though it is definitely a lesser slasher film, also pioneered many of the aspects that, over time, have become slasher film cliches. For example, it largely created (along with "Halloween," from two years earlier) the "you have sex-- you die!" template of the slasher movies that followed it.

It's also one of the first "Christmas time horror movies," along with the better "Black Christmas" from 1974. I actually prefer "To All A Goodnight" to both "Christmas Evil" and "Silent Night, Deadly Night" though.

I had a sense, two months ago, that this film might not remain in print on Blu-ray for much longer, so I bought it then. If what I've described about it sounds like something that you might want to own, I would see if you can pick it up somewhere for a good price, but don't pay big money for it, just because it is out of print. I do like it and am glad to have it in my collection, but I only paid 14 bucks for it from Kino, brand new.

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Old 04-27-2020, 01:12 PM   #85
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Is there a shipping deal for this sale? I looked on the K-L website & found nothing about shipping. Used to be $8.00 for the first Blu-ray and $1.00 per each additional item.
I paid something $9 for two blu rays during the Art house sale in January. It was not awesome but it was what it was.

I would wait until there is enough things to hit free shipping.
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Old 04-27-2020, 09:01 PM   #87
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A few months ago, I made a large Kino order, from the "While Supplies Last" sale (with less titles) that was happening then. One of my purchases was "Absolution. " That is one dark, dark film. I like it, and I won't spoil anything about it for you, if you (or anyone else) have never seen it before, but it's a heavy, dark, sobering movie. The performances are good, especially Richard Burton's, and it's a well-made film which I'm glad to have in my collection, but I probably won't be watching it on a regular basis. I'm glad that Kino released it though. I had never even heard of it, in fact, until their release.
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Old 04-27-2020, 10:14 PM   #88
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I placed an order of 9 titles the other day and quickly received it.

Being that this sale is titled, "While Supplies Last", what exactly does that mean? Once they're gone, no more will be pressed and they'll go OOP? I need some clarity as I would hate to miss out on a few. Making a 2nd order will be tough to reach $50 to get free shipping.

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I placed an order of 9 titles the other day and quickly received it.

Being that this sale is titled, "While Supplies Last", what exactly does that mean? Once they're gone, no more will be pressed and they'll go OOP? I need some clarity as I would hate to miss out on a few. Making a 2nd order will be tough to reach $50 to get free shipping.
That's exactly what it means. Or if the license expires before it sells out, it will be OOP too. Whichever is first.
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Old 04-28-2020, 03:24 PM   #90
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So < $50 shipping is expensive, as I wrote?
As a small distributor we are charged to pack and ship every item. The fees you see are based on those fees. To be clear, this is not a profit center for us by any means. In addition we have other expenses & royalties. Margins are tight and our plans are to stay in business. A small sized order can easily costs us more to process than to ship after expenses. As a promotional expense we are currently covering orders $50 or more.

Feel free to shop around, if you can put the same shopping cart together in your Amazon Prime account or elswhere for less, go for it. We're happy wherever you purchase, but strongly recommend you purchase from a reliable vendor.
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Is there a shipping deal for this sale? I looked on the K-L website & found nothing about shipping. Used to be $8.00 for the first Blu-ray and $1.00 per each additional item.
That's still it, but prices will be displayed during checkout. We currently waive standard shipping in contiguous USA if order subtotal is $50 or more.

We've been getting packages out pretty fast. As always, be sure to review your order carefully (titles & formats) and make sure you provide an accurate address that can accept packages during Covid crisis.

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As a small distributor we are charged to pack and ship every item. The fees you see are based on those fees. To be clear, this is not a profit center for us by any means. In addition we have other expenses & royalties. Margins are tight and our plans are to stay in business. A small sized order can easily costs us more to process than to ship after expenses. As a promotional expense we are currently covering orders $50 or more.

Feel free to shop around, if you can put the same shopping cart together in your Amazon Prime account or elswhere for less, go for it. We're happy wherever you purchase, but strongly recommend you purchase from a reliable vendor.
You guys release such a variety of titles at attractive prices, I never have trouble gambling on blind buys to help reach the $50 threshold. For a cinephile with varied tastes like me, KINO continues to keep me on my toes. With some labels, like Criterion, I enjoy all their new announcements and dutifully save my money for the titles I want, but KINO encourages impulse buys and for me that’s often more fun.
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You guys release such a variety of titles at attractive prices, I never have trouble gambling on blind buys to help reach the $50 threshold. For a cinephile with varied tastes like me, KINO continues to keep me on my toes. With some labels, like Criterion, I enjoy all their new announcements and dutifully save my money for the titles I want, but KINO encourages impulse buys and for me that’s often more fun.
When a Kino title hits that magical <$9 mark for me, it's usually an insta-blind-buy unless I can find it on streaming.
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Old 04-28-2020, 04:36 PM   #94
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you probably won't like wbshop's free shipping threshold...
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Well, I ordered 21 titles, spent almost $200, and still had to take a few titles off of the list that I had been planning to buy from Kino for this sale, due to also having placed also costly (but happy!) orders, this morning, with Criterion and Scream Factory (as well as a huge music order at another site)!

First World problems indeed-- and with all of those orders, I just said hello and goodbye to my stimulus check! (Somehow, I feel both giddy, and a bit sick, about that... but at least I'll have many movies and much music to last through the Covid lockdown, however long it lasts...!)

KinoLorber is now, officially, my favorite company and website from which to buy movies, by far, period. I love many other companies and sites too, but KL beats them all for me. Where else could I even possibly get the wild variety of movies seen below for those incredible prices?! And with their quick shipping too?? Thank you again, KL! (I will place probably another order later this month, when I have more money, to hopefully get the titles that I couldn't fit in at this time!)


1 [Blu-ray] Bank Shot $4.99
1 [Blu-ray] Chamber of Horrors $11.99
1 [Blu-ray] Cotton Comes to Harlem $11.99
1 [Blu-ray] The Falcon and the Snowman $9.99
1 [Blu-ray] Foreign Intrigue $7.99
1 [Blu-ray] Foxes $11.99
1 [Blu-ray] Framed $7.99
1 [Blu-ray] Hester Street $5.49
1 [Blu-ray] Jennifer $8.99
1 [Blu-ray] Juggernaut $11.99
1 [Blu-ray] Killer Force $9.99
1 [Blu-ray] The Last of the Finest $7.49
1 [Blu-ray] Lovers and Other Strangers $5.99
1 [Blu-ray] The Offence $9.99
1 [Blu-ray] Papa's Delicate Condition (1963) $4.99
1 [Blu-ray] Pit Stop $8.99
1 [Blu-ray] The Pit $9.99
1 [Blu-ray] True Confessions $11.99
1 [Blu-ray] Modern Girls $9.99
1 [Blu-ray] 52 Pick-Up $11.99
1 [Blu-ray] Last Embrace $9.99

Sub-Total: $194.79
Discount: $0.00
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Total: $194.79

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Old 04-29-2020, 09:27 AM   #96
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Seriously... ouch! Not that I paid too much but I spent way too many hours researching a few dozen movies I'd never heard of to see if they're worth buying. The worst part of KL's site is not seeing any way to sort movies by price, so I had to try to go through every page in their Browse option and try to spot Blurays under $10, and type that into a list. Then I had to search my lists to see if I already had them. There were still too many, so I moved my cutoff price down to $7 leaving me a few dozen to check. Then I read multiple reviews of each movie and KL release over multiple evenings.

I learned a lot about KL Blurays I didn't know. Almost all of them are BD-25, 2.0 DTS HD sound, acceptable but mediocre video transfers (with a few exceptions) provided by the studios, and extras range from nothing to several. I spent a lot of time trying to compare the Mill Creek Blurays I had to the KL equivalents. Most of the time there were only 2-4 detailed KL reviews (typically this site, DVD Talk and sometimes 1-2 other sites). Only on rare occasion did any reviews mention any noticeable video or audio difference mentioned relative to the Mill Creeks I already had, so I didn't rebuy the KL releases on most of those. Some KL Blurays, like Play It to the Bone, have zip zero nada reviews anywhere that I could find. I couldn't find any image of its back cover via Google. TLI (Too Little Info) = no sale.

Decision anxiety set in and I finally placed the order just to get it over with... mostly $4.99 and $5.99 Blurays. I've seen some people wonder why some people procrastinate so long to order. In my case it's because the research takes so many hours it has to be spread over multiple days and sometimes weeks.

Many Blurays are cheaper this sale than ever before, and some in the list are a little more expensive, so I skipped the price increases. Are all of these really going OOP eventually or is this just an inventory thinning sale?

After ordering around 20 Blurays, I was still left with over a dozen potential blind buys I was undecided on after reading the reviews... movies like Boys (1996) with only 1 review, Who Is Harry Kellerman which has several negative reviews, Cemetery Club, Invitation to a Gunfighter, Lovers and Other Strangers, Midas Run, More Dead Than Alive, etc. Too bad none of them are on Netflix or Vudu free with ads to watch first.
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When a Kino title hits that magical <$9 mark for me, it's usually an insta-blind-buy unless I can find it on streaming.
For me I usually limit blind buys to $6 for a Bluray (or $3 for a DVD) and only if reviews I read sound good. If I'm paying in the $6-$10 range ($10 is usually my top limit) it has to be a movie I've seen and really like. I could be mistaken, but there seem to be a lot of KL Blurays under $9 so if you bought every KL Bluray <= $9 wouldn't you buy buying at least a hundred titles at a cost in the thousands?

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Ordered on Friday, shipped on Monday. Tracking says delivery tomorrow.

I'm very excited.
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For me I usually limit blind buys to $6 for a Bluray (or $3 for a DVD) and only if reviews I read sound good. If I'm paying in the $6-$10 range ($10 is usually my top limit) it has to be a movie I've seen and really like. I could be mistaken, but there seem to be a lot of KL Blurays under $9 so if you bought every KL Bluray <= $9 wouldn't you buy buying at least a hundred titles at a cost in the thousands?
Everyone has a different price point but I should clarify, my level of interest scales with price so $9 is my upper bound...it'll have to really intrigue me and my criticker.com score would be a good judge (most other sites seem to have a score of 6-7 as a median). The movies left over tend to be about 50% available on streaming between several services I have.

I also have a soft spot in my heart for restored silent films (especially with commentary). In this sale I picked up a few for a bit more expensive, including Running Wild and The Sheik. I multitask when I watch movies so streaming isn't a big deal, but for silent films I'd pay a bit more attention so the Blu-ray is worth it.
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WOW! I placed my order of 21 titles at 2:23 this morning (life in a lockdown!), and as of 5:50 pm, this same day, all of them have already shipped. I can hardly believe it! This is one more reason (of so, so many!) that I am a KL customer and fan for life!
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Seriously... ouch! Not that I paid too much but I spent way too many hours researching a few dozen movies I'd never heard of to see if they're worth buying. The worst part of KL's site is not seeing any way to sort movies by price, so I had to try to go through every page in their Browse option and try to spot Blurays under $10, and type that into a list. Then I had to search my lists to see if I already had them. There were still too many, so I moved my cutoff price down to $7 leaving me a few dozen to check. Then I read multiple reviews of each movie and KL release over multiple evenings.

I learned a lot about KL Blurays I didn't know. Almost all of them are BD-25, 2.0 DTS HD sound, acceptable but mediocre video transfers (with a few exceptions) provided by the studios, and extras range from nothing to several. I spent a lot of time trying to compare the Mill Creek Blurays I had to the KL equivalents. Most of the time there were only 2-4 detailed KL reviews (typically this site, DVD Talk and sometimes 1-2 other sites). Only on rare occasion did any reviews mention any noticeable video or audio difference mentioned relative to the Mill Creeks I already had, so I didn't rebuy the KL releases on most of those. Some KL Blurays, like Play It to the Bone, have zip zero nada reviews anywhere that I could find. I couldn't find any image of its back cover via Google. TLI (Too Little Info) = no sale.

Decision anxiety set in and I finally placed the order just to get it over with... mostly $4.99 and $5.99 Blurays. I've seen some people wonder why some people procrastinate so long to order. In my case it's because the research takes so many hours it has to be spread over multiple days and sometimes weeks.

Many Blurays are cheaper this sale than ever before, and some in the list are a little more expensive, so I skipped the price increases. Are all of these really going OOP eventually or is this just an inventory thinning sale?

After ordering around 20 Blurays, I was still left with over a dozen potential blind buys I was undecided on after reading the reviews... movies like Boys (1996) with only 1 review, Who Is Harry Kellerman which has several negative reviews, Cemetery Club, Invitation to a Gunfighter, Lovers and Other Strangers, Midas Run, More Dead Than Alive, etc. Too bad none of them are on Netflix or Vudu free with ads to watch first.

For me I usually limit blind buys to $6 for a Bluray (or $3 for a DVD) and only if reviews I read sound good. If I'm paying in the $6-$10 range ($10 is usually my top limit) it has to be a movie I've seen and really like. I could be mistaken, but there seem to be a lot of KL Blurays under $9 so if you bought every KL Bluray <= $9 wouldn't you buy buying at least a hundred titles at a cost in the thousands?
Transfers on KL Blu-rays can definitely differ in quality, but many of them are great, some even stunning, and even the "worst" ones that I have encountered (i.e. bought with my own money) are not even close to putting me off of enthusiastically buying from this company and spreading the word about them to every serious film lover whom I can. It is true that some KL releases don't have the most glorious transfers, but for anyone to say that most of their transfers are mediocre just doesn't seem fair to me. At least, that has not been my experience with buying many, many of their Blu-rays (more than any other single company in my collection, including Criterion and Shout/Scream Factory, which is saying something for me).

One of the major reasons that I support KL so very avidly is that they bring a very large number of movies to Blu-ray, and often, keep them readily available, for years and years, on the format-- movies that other companies, including very large and rich movie companies, would never take the time to release on Blu-ray, even when they were responsible for the initial releases of these films to cinemas decades ago! It is truly a crime how so many great films are now being mistreated, by the companies which first brought them to public attention, but which now are content to let them languish, unavailable to film lovers on Blu-ray, or even on DVD, in some cases. KL has truly stepped in and rescued these films. They have been brought, on Blu-ray and/or DVD, to both older, seasoned film fans, who remember and love these movies from years ago, and to younger film aficionados, who can now discover them for the first time. Not all of the transfers are completely sparkling, 4k restoration-level, Blu-ray quality. However, so many of the transfers are still very good, and without KL, I would not have even seen, or have been aware of, many of the films which I am now so happy to have in my collection.

Your personal experience with buying from KL may be different than mine. That's certainly possible. I genuinely hope, for you, that you find enough of what you like from them, and that it looks good enough to your eyes, for you to be a satisfied KL customer for years to come. (No, I don't work for them, nor do any of my friends, hehe!) In my experience, KL employees are great people who really care about movies and about taking very good care of their customers. I do greatly dislike mediocre products and poor customer service, having experienced both too many times. KL is tops in my book!

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