Wild East Productions - Page 5 - Blu-ray Forum

cloudnine · 11-20-2021, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

Yeah it does. You can’t press something without proof of license. Nuff said.

What about all the bootleg DVDs?

DukeTogo84 · 11-21-2021, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cloudnine

What about all the bootleg DVDs?

They produced a ton of DVDs. If they were bootlegs they wouldn’t have been carried on many reputable online stores. I bought a ton of them from online stores. The issue is that they are dealing with Italian companies who break a ton of rules.

cloudnine · 11-21-2021, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

They produced a ton of DVDs. If they were bootlegs they wouldn’t have been carried on many reputable online stores. I bought a ton of them from online stores. The issue is that they are dealing with Italian companies who break a ton of rules.

Online stores carry plenty of PD and bootlegs titles because they don't know better.

DukeTogo84 · 11-21-2021, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by cloudnine

Online stores carry plenty of PD and bootlegs titles because they don't know better.

Either way, you can't release a pressed disc on Blu-ray without proof of a license. The Italian companies will often sell a license to multiple companies, but the fact that Wild East acquired a license through the license holder makes them not a bootleg company. Simple as that.

Katatonia · 11-21-2021, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

Either way, you can't release a pressed disc on Blu-ray without proof of a license. The Italian companies will often sell a license to multiple companies, but the fact that Wild East acquired a license through the license holder makes them not a bootleg company. Simple as that.

Agreed. Wild East are not a bootleg company.

The problem arises with many Italian movies and their licenses, even with far larger labels. Arrow and Blue Underground learned that with Django, and certain Italian movies have releases on 2 separate labels (like Arrow and VCI) with Blood and Black Lace and The Bird with the Crystal Plumage with conflicting licensed releases at the same time.

Sleazeaddict · 11-21-2021, 12:34 PM

There's also a french mediabook, not english friendly but there's spanish for those interested..

https://www.artusfilms.com/western-e...de-l-ouest-287

CelestialAgent · 12-07-2021, 11:37 AM

Apparently Wild East is now defunct

https://twitter.com/swdatabase/statu...256517126?s=21

Martin_31 · 12-07-2021, 12:38 PM

I wonder if another company can use the rights. I'm hoping for another SW set from Arrow.

DukeTogo84 · 12-07-2021, 02:24 PM

I really enjoyed their work. I guess they were having a hard time releasing titles and it simply wasn't worth it anymore.

Jack Webb · 12-07-2021, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CelestialAgent

Apparently Wild East is now defunct

https://twitter.com/swdatabase/statu...256517126?s=21

That’s a shame. Was able to score all of their blu-ray releases though.

deltatauhobbit · 12-07-2021, 06:17 PM

Definitely a shame to lose a company putting out spaghetti westerns on blu-ray. I wonder how much it had to do with their last couple releases, considering they were quickly pulled from market. I was fortunate to have gotten them before that happened; I'm sure they'll be more difficult to get with them company closing up shop.

utopia · 12-07-2021, 11:05 PM

Real shame. Got the last 3 or 4 blus they put out, but would of loved to get their dvd releases too, but by the time I found out about them many of the dvds were hard to find and expensive.

Really hope some other company picks up where they left off and start releasing more Spaghetti Westerns.

Katatonia · 12-08-2021, 12:24 AM

Wow, that stinks. At least I was able to get every one of their Blu-rays direct from them.

I suspect the licensing snafus of the last 2 releases made them decide it just wasn't worth it anymore.

StarDestroyer52 · 12-08-2021, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CelestialAgent

Apparently Wild East is now defunct

https://twitter.com/swdatabase/statu...256517126?s=21

Bummer. I got their Blu release of Arizona Colt, which was a real good release. I hope someone else is able to pick up the rights to these films

DukeTogo84 · 12-08-2021, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Katatonia

Wow, that stinks. At least I was able to get every one of their Blu-rays direct from them.

I suspect the licensing snafus of the last 2 releases made them decide it just wasn't worth it anymore.

They probably lost a ton of money on those two releases. They probably had to shred thousands of discs. Sucks. Their last few releases were actually pretty decent quality.

InLikeFlynn · 12-08-2021, 04:38 PM

Apparently, co-owner Eric Mache wrote on his Facebook that they had to pull Shanghai Joe and The Ugly Ones due to rights issues. They also constantly had to police sites like Youtube and issue copyright claims to people who would upload their transfers.

DukeTogo84 · 12-08-2021, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by InLikeFlynn

Apparently, co-owner Eric Mache wrote on his Facebook that they had to pull Shanghai Joe and The Ugly Ones due to rights issues. They also constantly had to police sites like Youtube and issue copyright claims to people who would upload their transfers.

Sucks. These Italian companies always seem like they are a hassle to deal with. I wonder who has the rights to Shanghai Joe and The Ugly Ones? Shanghai Joe came out like a million years ago and there hasn't been another release.

ShawDonkey · 12-08-2021, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

Sucks. These Italian companies always seem like they are a hassle to deal with. I wonder who has the rights to Shanghai Joe and The Ugly Ones? Shanghai Joe came out like a million years ago and there hasn't been another release.

I think there was speculation Cauldron has Shanghai Joe. Would like that, their releases have been great so far..

DukeTogo84 · 12-08-2021, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ShawDonkey

I think there was speculation Cauldron has Shanghai Joe. Would like that, their releases have been great so far..

Someone did mention that, but there was no evidence or hints of that even being true. The Wild East release was already pretty good, so I'm pretty content with that title. Only way I'd buy it again is if it was a double pack with the sequel or part of some other package/boxset.

Jonny Powers · 02-10-2022, 08:57 PM

I was super bummed to hear this a few weeks ago. They got me into SWs and I have almost all of their releases, all the blu and all save a couple DVDs, as I've been pre-ordering from them religiously. Definitely going to be missed and an icon from the SW DVD days.

11-21-2021, 12:34 PM	#86
Sleazeaddict Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Nov 2014 Trading Score:1	There's also a french mediabook, not english friendly but there's spanish for those interested.. https://www.artusfilms.com/western-e...de-l-ouest-287

12-07-2021, 11:37 AM	#87
CelestialAgent Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Aug 2015 Location:Norwich 4K collection:133 Blu-ray collection:2172 DVD collection:659 Blu-ray reviews:5 Trading Score:1	Apparently Wild East is now defunct https://twitter.com/swdatabase/statu...256517126?s=21

12-07-2021, 12:38 PM	#88
Martin_31 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2014 Location:California 4K collection:3 Blu-ray collection:188 Trading Score:5	I wonder if another company can use the rights. I'm hoping for another SW set from Arrow.

12-07-2021, 02:24 PM	#89
DukeTogo84 Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Aug 2012 Location:California 4K collection:155 Blu-ray collection:4952 Blu-ray reviews: 64 Trading Score:139	I really enjoyed their work. I guess they were having a hard time releasing titles and it simply wasn't worth it anymore.

12-07-2021, 06:17 PM	#91
deltatauhobbit Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Feb 2014 Location:Maine, USA Home Theater Gallery:29 4K collection:302 Blu-ray collection:7963 DVD collection:224 Digital collection:976 Prime collection:80 Trading Score:6	Definitely a shame to lose a company putting out spaghetti westerns on blu-ray. I wonder how much it had to do with their last couple releases, considering they were quickly pulled from market. I was fortunate to have gotten them before that happened; I'm sure they'll be more difficult to get with them company closing up shop.

12-07-2021, 11:05 PM	#92
utopia Active Member Top contributor Member since:Jul 2012 Location:Finland 4K collection:253 Blu-ray collection:3007 DVD collection:232	Real shame. Got the last 3 or 4 blus they put out, but would of loved to get their dvd releases too, but by the time I found out about them many of the dvds were hard to find and expensive. Really hope some other company picks up where they left off and start releasing more Spaghetti Westerns.

12-08-2021, 12:24 AM	#93
Katatonia Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Nov 2010 Location:Missouri, USA 4K collection:928 Blu-ray collection:8239 DVD collection:3655 Digital collection:33 Prime collection:106 Blu-ray reviews: 30 Trading Score:156	Wow, that stinks. At least I was able to get every one of their Blu-rays direct from them. I suspect the licensing snafus of the last 2 releases made them decide it just wasn't worth it anymore.

12-08-2021, 04:38 PM	#96
InLikeFlynn Active Member Member since:Oct 2016 Location:United States 4K collection:11 Blu-ray collection:438 DVD collection:530	Apparently, co-owner Eric Mache wrote on his Facebook that they had to pull Shanghai Joe and The Ugly Ones due to rights issues. They also constantly had to police sites like Youtube and issue copyright claims to people who would upload their transfers.

02-10-2022, 08:57 PM	#100
Jonny Powers Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Jan 2016 Location:Maryland, USA 4K collection:9 Blu-ray collection:751 DVD collection:443 Trading Score:1	I was super bummed to hear this a few weeks ago. They got me into SWs and I have almost all of their releases, all the blu and all save a couple DVDs, as I've been pre-ordering from them religiously. Definitely going to be missed and an icon from the SW DVD days.

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