News: displays and their technologies

[wxman2003]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

The ZD9 is a grubby old LCD. Don't buy it unless you want to be laughed at by Mijs.

I wish I would have got my grubby hands on that grubby tv when the 75 inch dropped to $1500.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

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Notice what's missing . . . Dual Cell LCD. It has proven to be too costly in electricity usage along with production cost and is being abandoned.

Like peace, that was never an option. It's flourishing in pro monitor usage because they can still charge up the arseh0le for it and things like power consumption aren't an issue, nor is the chunky casing needed to cool it, but for consumer usage I didn't think it'd gain much traction. One or two companies showed consumer prototypes at a few events, but that was about it. Damned shame.

[Noremac Mij]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Like peace, that was never an option. It's flourishing in pro monitor usage because they can still charge up the arseh0le for it and things like power consumption aren't an issue, nor is the chunky casing needed to cool it, but for consumer usage I didn't think it'd gain much traction. One or two companies showed consumer prototypes at a few events, but that was about it. Damned shame.

It’s the best LCD technology, sure, but not as good as OLED. Not going to lose sleep.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

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Notice what's missing . . . Dual Cell LCD. It has proven to be too costly in electricity usage along with production cost and is being abandoned.

I'm waiting for Micro-LED.

[Farerb]

Is microLED going to be the next big thing or is it going to be the QD-OLED?

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by farerb

Is microLED going to be the next big thing or is it going to be the QD-OLED?

The purpose of Micro-LED is to make displays with potential burn-in obsolete.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by farerb

Is microLED going to be the next big thing or is it going to be the QD-OLED?

Micro LED has higher brightness and is more stable than OLED because of its inorganic nature. In other words, red, green, and blue Micro LED pixels do not have luminance decay issues. Compared with that, each OLED pixel more or less suffers from luminance decay and the speed of decay varies.

[Farerb]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Micro LED has higher brightness and is more stable than OLED because of its inorganic nature. In other words, red, green, and blue Micro LED pixels do not have luminance decay issues. Compared with that, each OLED pixel more or less suffers from luminance decay and the speed of decay varies.

Then why do people like OLED so much?

BTW - what's the difference between QLED and regular LED?

[singhcr]

Originally Posted by farerb

Then why do people like OLED so much?

Because it has perfect black levels due to its self emissive technology (i.e. no backlight) which results in wonderfully rich colors. You see this all the time even in bright scenes but all the more when you are watching something shot at night, in space etc. When I watch something on LCD the colors look washed out by comparison.

I'm not worried about decay myself, I am sure I will get many many years out of my OLED.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by singhcr

Because it has perfect black levels due to its self emissive technology (i.e. no backlight) which results in wonderfully rich colors. You see this all the time even in bright scenes but all the more when you are watching something shot at night, in space etc. When I watch something on LCD the colors look washed out by comparison.

I'm not worried about decay myself, I am sure I will get many many years out of my OLED.

Shame about the near black handling then, but nothing's perfick.

[Robert Zohn]

Near black detail has been fixed on LG, Sony and Panasonic OLED TVs.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by farerb

Then why do people like OLED so much?

BTW - what's the difference between QLED and regular LED?

"LED" is just the source of the Backlight for LCD TVs. Q/QD are Quantum Dots, a technology which expands the color depth: billions of colors instead of HD's millions of colors.



Prior to the use of LEDs for the BL: they used CCFL (cold-cathode fluorescent lamps) which had Cadmium in them - dangerous to humans. So they changed to LEDs when they were able to make them bright enough.

[Geoff D]

Hope it was fixed better than earlier LGs where they just raised the gamma and hoped no-one would notice.

[Robert Zohn]

Yes, the LG OLED TV firmware we are BETA testers for was approved for distribution, but is not available until next week or possible the week of Dec. 28th.

[lgans316]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

You're nitpicking.

Not really. A few other owners at AVForums are going through this. If you don't see then fair enough but it doesn't negate the the fact that the TV does suffer from random stutters on 23.976/24/50 Hz contents.

[Noremac Mij]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Micro LED has higher brightness and is more stable than OLED because of its inorganic nature. In other words, red, green, and blue Micro LED pixels do not have luminance decay issues. Compared with that, each OLED pixel more or less suffers from luminance decay and the speed of decay varies.

LEDs are literally the worst and most unnatural source of light. With current technology, it’s impossible for Micro LED to look anywhere near as good as OLED, even if they have superior brightness, etc.

[Noremac Mij]

Originally Posted by lgans316

Not really. A few other owners at AVForums are going through this. If you don't see then fair enough but it doesn't negate the the fact that the TV does suffer from random stutters on 23.976/24/50 Hz contents.

Of course it’s nitpicking. If we are going to nitpick then LCD (in all iterations) in general is a horrible nonsense of a technology. Washed out ugliness. Yet LCD owners just love to nitpick OLED.

[wxman2003]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Hope it was fixed better than earlier LGs where they just raised the gamma and hoped no-one would notice.

I only notice near black issues on my E6 with compressed feeds such as streaming. With UHD and BD, not an issue, even after adjusting 5IRE luminance which lowers near black gamma to bring out more detail. Not a perfect solution, but one that does help.

Plus a 4.5 year old screen with no pink tint at 100% and no banding even at 3%. I would dare say it looks better in regards to screen uniformity compared to the newer models.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

LEDs are literally the worst and most unnatural source of light. With current technology, it’s impossible for Micro LED to look anywhere near as good as OLED, even if they have superior brightness, etc.

So where did you see an actual MicroLED display?

[Noremac Mij]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

So where did you see an actual MicroLED display?

Why would I even need to see one?