Fatal Attraction 4K UHD (1987)

[Brian81]

Lifeforce shits the bed during flames from what I watched though most looked really good. Seems to be common across many releases and companies. Flames a mess. Waterworld comes to mind.

[Texansfan26]

I’d buy this if they’d release a steelbook version of this which I don’t think
They have ever.

[zepol]

Originally Posted by DawnShadow

The Craft is the main one. The Halloween movies also look bad but I’m unsure if it’s the same issue.

I have HALLOWEEN 1,2,3 4k and they look & sound perfect.

[Kyle15]

Originally Posted by zepol

I have HALLOWEEN 1,2,3 4k and they look & sound perfect.

[BluProofie]

Aside from the spotty compression, they do mostly look and sound great.

[DawnShadow]

Originally Posted by zepol

I have HALLOWEEN 1,2,3 4k and they look & sound perfect.

Perfect, haha.

Yeah they look good but that’s just not accurate. It’s obvious they’ve been tinkered with way too much, there’s way more grain in the Lionsgate 4K and the only reason the Shout possibly wins is because of colour.

[BluProofie]

Originally Posted by DawnShadow

Perfect, haha.

Yeah they look good but that’s just not accurate. It’s obvious they’ve been tinkered with way too much, there’s way more grain in the Lionsgate 4K and the only reason the Shout possibly wins is because of colour.

They haven’t been “tinkered with”. The new remasters are excellent. It’s just the compression that could’ve been better.

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by DawnShadow

the only reason the Shout possibly wins is because of colour.

The mono track wins it.

[Shane Rollins]

Originally Posted by Kyle15

Nah, it's a double-dip. Doesn't matter the format. There's definitely releases that qualify and they're always silly when they happen. Upgrades in general aren't double-dippy tbh. Calling every thread a double dip is hyperbole tbh!

But calling a double dip a double dip when it is one is different. If (and this title is definitely hyperbole) The Abyss finally got a Blu-ray, same special features as the old DVD, both cuts of the movie, only thing different was new picture and sound, clearly that’s not a double dip, that’s a major step up.

The 4K mastered Blu-ray of Fatal Attraction, followed by a 4K UHD of Fatal Attraction, is a double dip, and everyone who bought one under the assumption that no native 4K copy was coming got burned.

Didn’t Paramount at some point say that the Paramount Presents line was going to be all 4K mastered Blu-rays and no native 4K discs?

[Shane Rollins]

I think it’s pretty funny that according to Glenn Close the first ending (the alternate ending) made Alex look “self-destructive” and the second ending (in the final cut) made her look like a “psychopath”.

As if everything else didn’t make her look like a psychopath.

[Matt89]

Originally Posted by Oatlord

Yeah the theatrical ending is much better. It’s pulpy but it’s done really well, and it was nice to see Dan’s wife settle the score after all she’d been through, she was the true victim in the story.

Glenn Close really didn’t want to go with the theatrical ending because it made Alex ‘less sympathetic’ but I had no sympathy for that crazy, manipulative, psychotic bunny-boiling b**ch anyway. I get that an actor needs to empathise totally with their character but it’s like - you are the villain in this psycho-thriller, just own it.

And what a psycho-thriller. It’s pitch-perfect and all the performances are outstanding. I wish they still made films like this. It was nice to see Adrian Lyne return with Deep Water. It’s no Fatal Attraction but it was a pretty absorbing erotic thriller.

I think that was sort of her point, though. As someone who's a big fan of Fatal Attraction myself (who also plans on picking up the UHD), I must admit that the film does have a very unsympathetic view of mental illness. And yes, I understand this is a thriller and the movie would've been way less interesting if Alex wasn't a "crazy b*tch", but I think that's exactly why Glenn Close has a point. I agree that her character has a certain sense of depth that is overlooked for shock value. It sort of trivializes the issue of mental illness. And the fact that there's no mention of the type of mental illness she suffers from makes it even worse. She's just portrayed as "crazy".

It also does bother me somewhat that Michael Douglas' character

[Show spoiler]essentially gets away with everything in the end.

After all, he was the assh*le with a wife and kids who decided to have a one night stand with another woman. He essentially wanted to have his cake and eat it too. He's a terrible father and husband.

And don't get me wrong, I'm in no way advocating for the film to be "cancelled" or anything of that nature. Absolutely not. I love the movie, it's a classic '80s thriller, but it's not without its faults and I totally understand the criticism the film often receives regarding its treatment of Alex and mental illness.

~Matt

[Bostonyte]

Originally Posted by Matt89

He essentially wanted to have his cake and eat it too. He's a terrible father and husband.

~Matt

Saw the movie when it first came out but don't remember a lot of it besides the plot and certain scenes. Was it the adultery or other displays of neglect/lack of affection/etc. that made him this terrible father?

[Matt89]

He had an affair with a woman that threatened to destroy his family. He got himself into that situation and put his entire family at risk.

He's a shitty parent.

~Matt

[Ryan1973]

Originally Posted by houseca

James Eckhouse. I don't remember the FA scene with him in it, but I do remember him in Cocktail sitting at the beach bar in Jamaica. "Cameo" is being very generous. I don't think he had any lines, just facial gestures. More like an extra I would say

Ya he is the one that spills his drink on Dan's lawyer buddy when they are in the Japanese restaurant at the beginning of the movie. James Eckhouse is in the scene for a few seconds at most. But you can tell it's him.

[Oatlord]

Originally Posted by Matt89

I think that was sort of her point, though. As someone who's a big fan of Fatal Attraction myself (who also plans on picking up the UHD), I must admit that the film does have a very unsympathetic view of mental illness. And yes, I understand this is a thriller and the movie would've been way less interesting if Alex wasn't a "crazy b*tch", but I think that's exactly why Glenn Close has a point. I agree that her character has a certain sense of depth that is overlooked for shock value. It sort of trivializes the issue of mental illness. And the fact that there's no mention of the type of mental illness she suffers from makes it even worse. She's just portrayed as "crazy".

It also does bother me somewhat that Michael Douglas' character

[Show spoiler]essentially gets away with everything in the end.

After all, he was the assh*le with a wife and kids who decided to have a one night stand with another woman. He essentially wanted to have his cake and eat it too. He's a terrible father and husband.

And don't get me wrong, I'm in no way advocating for the film to be "cancelled" or anything of that nature. Absolutely not. I love the movie, it's a classic '80s thriller, but it's not without its faults and I totally understand the criticism the film often receives regarding its treatment of Alex and mental illness.

~Matt

Would you extend the same sympathy to other movie psychos like Hannibal Lecter? Or Max Zorin from A View To A Kill?

I don’t think Dan is a ‘terrible father and husband’, he deserves condemnation for playing away one weekend but he feels terrible about it, owns up, and doesn’t go grovelling for forgiveness - he accepts his punishment from his wife, and more than pays for his betrayal with the terrorisation he undergoes from Alex.

Also, prior to his indiscretion he was clearly a top rate father and husband, and no doubt he’ll continue to be so once his wife forgives him, albeit forever tainted by the memory of what he did.

Let’s keep the morality in this film in perspective. A one-off cheater isn’t even in the same moral universe as the violent, bunny-boiling, sociopathic home-wrecker he fell victim to.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Matt89

I think that was sort of her point, though. As someone who's a big fan of Fatal Attraction myself (who also plans on picking up the UHD), I must admit that the film does have a very unsympathetic view of mental illness. And yes, I understand this is a thriller and the movie would've been way less interesting if Alex wasn't a "crazy b*tch", but I think that's exactly why Glenn Close has a point. I agree that her character has a certain sense of depth that is overlooked for shock value. It sort of trivializes the issue of mental illness. And the fact that there's no mention of the type of mental illness she suffers from makes it even worse. She's just portrayed as "crazy".

It also does bother me somewhat that Michael Douglas' character

[Show spoiler]essentially gets away with everything in the end.

After all, he was the assh*le with a wife and kids who decided to have a one night stand with another woman. He essentially wanted to have his cake and eat it too. He's a terrible father and husband.

And don't get me wrong, I'm in no way advocating for the film to be "cancelled" or anything of that nature. Absolutely not. I love the movie, it's a classic '80s thriller, but it's not without its faults and I totally understand the criticism the film often receives regarding its treatment of Alex and mental illness.

~Matt

Yeah, I tend to agree. And not to mention

[Show spoiler] it wasn't just the one night stand which was bad enough, but a follow-up weekend stand! My guess is, if he would have ended it immediately after that first night none of the horror would have followed. But then I guess we wouldn't have had a movie.

.

[Bostonyte]

Originally Posted by Matt89

He had an affair with a woman that threatened to destroy his family. He got himself into that situation and put his entire family at risk.

He's a shitty parent.

~Matt

He made a bad judgement call during a night of too many libations. Shitty husband definitely but not necessarily a bad parent.

[starmike]

Originally Posted by Matt89

He had an affair with a woman that threatened to destroy his family. He got himself into that situation and put his entire family at risk.

He's a shitty parent.

~Matt

And what's the interview process for this?

"So, how do you stand on destroying my family?"

He could have just as easily found someone who wouldn't do that.

[Shane Rollins]

Originally Posted by Matt89

I think that was sort of her point, though. As someone who's a big fan of Fatal Attraction myself (who also plans on picking up the UHD), I must admit that the film does have a very unsympathetic view of mental illness. And yes, I understand this is a thriller and the movie would've been way less interesting if Alex wasn't a "crazy b*tch", but I think that's exactly why Glenn Close has a point. I agree that her character has a certain sense of depth that is overlooked for shock value. It sort of trivializes the issue of mental illness. And the fact that there's no mention of the type of mental illness she suffers from makes it even worse. She's just portrayed as "crazy".

It also does bother me somewhat that Michael Douglas' character

[Show spoiler]essentially gets away with everything in the end.

After all, he was the assh*le with a wife and kids who decided to have a one night stand with another woman. He essentially wanted to have his cake and eat it too. He's a terrible father and husband.

And don't get me wrong, I'm in no way advocating for the film to be "cancelled" or anything of that nature. Absolutely not. I love the movie, it's a classic '80s thriller, but it's not without its faults and I totally understand the criticism the film often receives regarding its treatment of Alex and mental illness.

~Matt

1. He got exposed.
2. His wife knows he cheated. Probably not the first time, probably not the last.
3. His daughter knows he cheated. As a kid who watched both parents cheat on each other, I know she lost a lot of respect for her father in this one.
4. The bunny is his daughter’s bunny. Good luck explaining that one.
5. No cops are helping him, so he has to feel the pain and fear and stress that comes with being stalked and harassed.
6. The news inevitably got all around town, so this “respected gentleman” will be the laughing stock of the town by the time it’s over.
7. He ain’t gettin’ none after this.

He got his.

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Yeah, I tend to agree. And not to mention

[Show spoiler] it wasn't just the one night stand which was bad enough, but a follow-up weekend stand! My guess is, if he would have ended it immediately after that first night none of the horror would have followed. But then I guess we wouldn't have had a movie.

.

Even though, Fatal Attraction is only a movie but in real life, adultery is a sin, and it can lead to serious or fatal consequences in the end. Is it worth the risk of losing your family, home, finances from paying alimony, child support for just a few minutes of pleasure? A one night affair can ruin your whole life, but married men and women who cheat doesn't think about the repercussions of their infidelities. Dan (Michael Douglas) cheated on his wife, and look what happened. Sex is not only physical, but also emotional, and it'll only take just one time for that person to becomes emotionally attached and develop feelings, especially for a woman.