Oppenheimer 4K UHD (2023)

[Kyle15]

Originally Posted by Mking78

Great acting, 2.5 hours of Cillian’s face, 2 minute bomb scene. I did not need IMAX for this. Glad I saw it, see no need for a hard copy. It’s a one and done, and not for the masses.

I cringed

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by Kyle15

I cringed

I'm not even a Nolan fan, but that post definitely was cringe worthy

[By_His_Strypes]

I cringe just seeing that bluebonnet photo pop up when I go to read a thread. I cringe every time I see a big photo plastered right in my face every 2 seconds... we all cringe I guess.

[Mking78]

I guess this forum is just like current society, cringing at alternate views. “How dare you!”…apologies to Greta. Interstellar was one of my favorite movies ever, as was Dunkirk. Batman one of the best trilogies ever. Hated Inception and found his last effort of backward time confusing and not enjoyable. The grandness of the format and genius of the filmmaker does not always lead to what I enjoy. Am I lock step with you all? Never.

[Kyle15]

Originally Posted by Mking78

I guess this forum is just like current society, cringing at alternate views. “How dare you!”…apologies to Greta. Interstellar was one of my favorite movies ever, as was Dunkirk. Batman one of the best trilogies ever. Hated Inception and found his last effort of backward time confusing and not enjoyable. The grandness of the format and genius of the filmmaker does not always lead to what I enjoy. Am I lock step with you all? Never.

Drink a glass of water

[MuffinMcFluffin]

Originally Posted by nicwood

Do you have a rough estimate on how many 15-perf IMAX scenes there are in the film? I'm thinking about driving to a 1.43 IMAX theater if there's "enough" footage that makes it worth. The amount in Tenet would be fine with me.

I have seen the film already and the "talky" nature doesn't give me much hope unless Nolan ventured more into ADR than before.

It's honestly very spotty. The Trinity sequence is done in full IMAX, but everything else feels like "A cut here and a cut there."

[MisterXDTV]

Originally Posted by benhoppel

Are the IMAX prints from ON or IP/IN?

- The IMAX 15/70 prints come straight from the OCN for the IMAX scenes. But the standard 5/65 scenes are blown up optically obviously...

- The IMAX digital version comes from an 8K Scan of the complete 15/65 IP (the same source will be used for the UHD BD). That means the standard 5/65 scenes come from the same optical blow-up used to create the 15/70 prints

[JG7]

Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

- The IMAX 15/70 prints come straight from the OCN for the IMAX scenes. But the standard 5/65 scenes are blown up optically obviously...

- The IMAX digital version comes from an 8K Scan of the complete 15/65 IP (the same source will be used for the UHD BD). That means the standard 5/65 scenes come from the same optical blow-up used to create the 15/70 prints

No, not necessarily. If this was the case, Dunkirk would look horrid on UHD. The blow-up 5/65 scenes looked rough on the IMAX print, while they look absolutely pristine on UHD.

[MisterXDTV]

Originally Posted by JG7

No, not necessarily. If this was the case, Dunkirk would look horrid on UHD. The blow-up 5/65 scenes looked rough on the IMAX print, while they look absolutely pristine on UHD.

That's what they scan. The complete 15/65 IP at 8K

I never found any source confirming they used two separate scans for the UHD Blu-ray or IMAX Digital

[McCrutchy]

Originally Posted by nicwood

Do you have a rough estimate on how many 15-perf IMAX scenes there are in the film? I'm thinking about driving to a 1.43 IMAX theater if there's "enough" footage that makes it worth. The amount in Tenet would be fine with me.

I have seen the film already and the "talky" nature doesn't give me much hope unless Nolan ventured more into ADR than before.

Originally Posted by MuffinMcFluffin

It's honestly very spotty. The Trinity sequence is done in full IMAX, but everything else feels like "A cut here and a cut there."

Unfortunately, because of the pandemic, Tenet is the only one of Nolan's IMAX films I haven't been able to see in 15/70, but I got the impression that while there was a lot of shifting, there is actually a lot of IMAX footage in Oppenheimer, probably more than in any other Nolan film. I suppose Nolan aspired to shoot as much of the film in IMAX as he could, but since the film tends to be dialogue-heavy, some may feel the film is constantly switching aspect ratios.

I personally wasn't bothered by this and felt that the gain in clarity and resolution in having as much IMAX film as possible in the movie was well worth the trade-off of having the film switch aspect ratios. However, I was watching a 15/70 print on one of the biggest screens in the world, so what worked for me might be different on a smaller screen in IMAX with Laser, which is, I believe, the only other version of the film with aspect ratio switching.

I really hope the 4K UHD retains the switching, albeit with the 1.43:1 footage in 1.78:1*.

*However, I also want to be greedy and say I want a second 4K UHD disc with the 1.43:1 footage in 1.43:1, despite what would be jarring shifts on a 1.78:1 display.

[GRSN]

I saw this Thursday in IMAX (was packed when i arrived), wasn't impressed like i was with Nolan's previous films,
but that might've been because i was tired that day (went to the gym before)
i did expect more of the bomb itself.

really liked Emily Blunt's performance, in my opinion, she overshadowed Cillian Murphy at times, Robert Downey Jr. was also good.

[Show spoiler]always nice seeing Gary Oldman in an cameo too

might buy the 4K anyway, just because it's Christopher Nolan

[Fjodor2000]

I've been browsing through some audience reviews. Some of them are very positive but there are also some quite negative ones, mentioning for example:

1. A lot of jumping back and forth in the timeline and too many characters making the story hard to follow.
2. Constant loud and overpowering soundtrack, which is annoying and makes it hard to hear the dialogue.
3.

[Show spoiler]Story-wise not much about the scientific complications and problems that had to be overcome in the creation of the bomb. More of a courtroom drama.

(Spoiler wrapped since it mentions the type of story, in case anyone is sensitive to that.)

1 & 2 kinda reminds me of the negative aspects of Tenet. 3 of course depends on what kinda story you like.

Anyone that has seen the movie that can confirm if the above is accurate?

[Pieter V]

Christopher Nolan et Cillian Murphy sont dans le Vidéo Club, un duo qui fonctionne plus que bien 💥 - YouTube

Brief physical media talk vs streaming, right after the intro. And other movies talk. Hopefully Universal doesn't dump all special features on the 4K Blu-ray like they always do. Make that exception, Nolan.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

That's what they scan. The complete 15/65 IP at 8K

I never found any source confirming they used two separate scans for the UHD Blu-ray or IMAX Digital

They don’t use one single neg for all video transfers, and that includes theatrical digital versions. Nolan cuts a complete negative for whatever version so he can maintain the respective formats at their highest quality, so a 5-perf neg is created with all available 5-perf original plus 15-perf blowdowns & VFX while the 15-perf neg is the opposite, containing all available 15-perf original plus 5-perf blowups & VFX. Ditto for his 35mm + IMAX shows, two separate negs were cut.

On Dunkirk they scanned a 5-perf IP to create the 2.20 master and a 15-perf IP to create the VAR IMAX masters. For home versions it’s easy AF to just conform the two together from that scan data, and for that info my source is my eyes: as said above, the optically blown-up 5-perf stuff in Dunkirk’s 15/70 print looked like hammered shit, being dull, milky and surprisingly grainy, while the 5-perf in the 2.20 DCP and home video 1.78/2.20 versions was vastly improved.

Tenet’s 5-perf footage looked a hell of a lot betterer in its respective 15/70 version, true, and I expect Oppenheimer to be the same, so something has changed w/ref to the 5-perf blowups but even so, I’m not convinced they just use one IMAX master for everything.

[MisterXDTV]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

They don’t use one single neg for all video transfers, and that includes theatrical digital versions. Nolan cuts a complete negative for whatever version so he can maintain the respective formats at their highest quality, so a 5-perf neg is created with all available 5-perf original plus 15-perf blowdowns & VFX while the 15-perf neg is the opposite, containing all available 15-perf original plus 5-perf blowups & VFX. Ditto for his 35mm + IMAX shows, two separate negs were cut.

On Dunkirk they scanned a 5-perf IP to create the 2.20 master and a 15-perf IP to create the VAR IMAX masters. For home versions it’s easy AF to just conform the two together from that scan data, and for that info my source is my eyes: as said above, the optically blown-up 5-perf stuff in Dunkirk’s 15/70 print looked like hammered shit, being dull, milky and surprisingly grainy, while the 5-perf in the 2.20 DCP and home video 1.78/2.20 versions was vastly improved.

Tenet’s 5-perf footage looked a hell of a lot betterer in its respective 15/70 version, true, and I expect Oppenheimer to be the same, so something has changed w/ref to the 5-perf blowups but even so, I’m not convinced they just use one IMAX master for everything.

I know there are basically two "master negatives": one created by Fotokem is 5/65, the 15/65 negative is handled by IMAX Post...

They could, of course, combine the two sources for the home video version, but wouldn't that apply to the IMAX Laser digital version as well?

Like you said, they could have improved the optical printing blow-up step...

[CreasyBear]

I need this now.

[Bunnycj]

Will OPPENHEIMER Get UNCENSORED & UNCUT Version on 4K UHD BLURAY????
We need it though to import to India....

[By_His_Strypes]

Is it true the original cut was over 4 hours long? if so, I wonder if that cut will find its way onto the 4K

[Bunnycj]

Originally Posted by By_His_Strypes

Is it true the original cut was over 4 hours long? if so, I wonder if that cut will find its way onto the 4K

The Intent of Nolan is to bring the 180 pgs of book into 180 minutes of movie...thats the final cut....but expecting not blurring...adding smoking kills....in each scene on 4K UHD Bluray for proper experience....and an IMAX version is must either 1.78:1 or 1.43:1....Both would look good on physical media as felt in IMAX Theatre....

[JG7]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

They don’t use one single neg for all video transfers, and that includes theatrical digital versions. Nolan cuts a complete negative for whatever version so he can maintain the respective formats at their highest quality, so a 5-perf neg is created with all available 5-perf original plus 15-perf blowdowns & VFX while the 15-perf neg is the opposite, containing all available 15-perf original plus 5-perf blowups & VFX. Ditto for his 35mm + IMAX shows, two separate negs were cut.

On Dunkirk they scanned a 5-perf IP to create the 2.20 master and a 15-perf IP to create the VAR IMAX masters. For home versions it’s easy AF to just conform the two together from that scan data, and for that info my source is my eyes: as said above, the optically blown-up 5-perf stuff in Dunkirk’s 15/70 print looked like hammered shit, being dull, milky and surprisingly grainy, while the 5-perf in the 2.20 DCP and home video 1.78/2.20 versions was vastly improved.

Tenet’s 5-perf footage looked a hell of a lot betterer in its respective 15/70 version, true, and I expect Oppenheimer to be the same, so something has changed w/ref to the 5-perf blowups but even so, I’m not convinced they just use one IMAX master for everything.

It looked probably better than Dunkirk (I haven't seen the 15/70 of Tenet and it's been 6 years so idk), but I still wasn't overly convinced by the look of 5/65. Some parts were really grainy. I supposed it was the difference between 50 and 250 stock speed, still grainy for 65mm. The black and white scenes fare the worst as the color between 5 perf and 15 didn't match at all. The IMAX parts were out of this world tho.