Cross of Iron 4K UHD (1977)

[moviemaker]

Does anyone have info on the Japanese Edition coming out beyond what I translated via Amazon:

https://www.amazon.co.jp/Cross-of-Iron-4K-Blu-ray/dp/B0FHHB4WWT?tag=bluraycom-22&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1&m=AN1VRQENFRJN5

[Ben_R]

Originally Posted by moviemaker

[Show spoiler]Does anyone have info on the Japanese Edition coming out beyond what I translated via Amazon:

https://www.amazon.co.jp/Cross-of-Iron-4K-Blu-ray/dp/B0FHHB4WWT?tag=bluraycom-22&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1&m=AN1VRQENFRJN5

It looks the same as the 2017 blu ray set below.



Found some info, hope this helps

The first 4K UHD version (2 copies of the HDR version and the SDR version) + 3 <final edition> BDs that were discontinued in the past release, a 5-disc set permanent preservation version.

Original title: CROSS OF IRON
Year of production: 1977
Country of production: England = West Germany
Release date: 1977.3.17/February 2000/2017.8.26
Recording time:
UHD main story about 133 minutes x 2 + video bonus about 115 minutes
VHS version about 128 minutes
German version about 132 minutes

Specifications:

Color 2160p Ultra High Definition 16:9 Single-sided 3-layer UHD x 2 + Single-sided 2-layer BD x 3 2

audios: 1 main English Dolby True-HD (MONO) : 2 Main Japanese Dolby True-HD (MONO)

Subtitles: 7 Japanese for 1 to 6 main episodes 2 duking auxiliary Japanese

Enclosed items: 92P commentary enclosed

[Contents of each disc]

UHD1 HDR Dolby Vision Main Story
UHD2 SDR main story
BD1 Main story 133 minutes

screen size 1:1.85

domestic restore master use Original English (Linear PCM/MONO, Dolby True HD Advanced 96K Upsampling/MONO) Japanese dubbing / Nippon TV "Wednesday Roadshow" version (DTS-HD Master Audio/MONO) Japanese subtitles for the main story x 6 types 12017 revised version 22015 NHK broadcast version 32013 BD version 42010 DVD version 52000 DVD & VHS version 61985 VHS & LD version Dubbing auxiliary Japanese subtitles x 1 type

BD2

Passion & Poetry: Sam Peckinpah's War (47 minutes and 54 seconds, HD recording)

On location (SD recording): Sam Peckinpah (5 minutes and 21 seconds), James Co burn (5 minutes and 45 seconds), James Mason (6 minutes and 22 seconds), Maximilian Schell (4 minutes and 48 seconds), David Warner (3 minutes and 23 seconds)

Kruger Kisses Kern (8 minutes and 50 seconds Seconds, SD recording)

Vadim & Sam: Father and Son (6 minutes 06 seconds, SD recording)

Letters from Vadim & Sam (3 minutes and 59 seconds, SD recording)

Cutting Roo m Floor (4 minutes and 26 seconds, SD recording)

Steiner in Japan (2 minutes 00 seconds, SD recording)

Mike's Homemovies: Steiner & Kiesel Meet Again (7 minutes 44 seconds, SD recording)

German version trailer (3 minutes and 22 seconds, SD recording)

US version TV spot (31 seconds, SD recording)

US/UK version trailer (3 minutes and 45 seconds, HD recording)

2017 digital remastered version Japan release preview Edition (1 minute and 43 seconds, HD recording)

1985 King Records VHS edition / Screen size 1:1.33 (about 128 minutes, SD recording)

BD3

German version (telecine from the 35mm print when it was first released in Germany in 1977, screen size about 1:1.55, 131 minutes and 27 seconds, HD recording)

Due to the damage to some prints in the main story, there are about 2 minutes in total where the parts are connected with overseas English DVD materials. The screen size is different for the corresponding part, and the audio is in English. Please understand in advance.

BD1 to 3 will be the same content as the DISC of "War War Harawata" ≪Final Edition≫ (KIXF-513~515) released in the past.

Product specifications are subject to change. Please understand in advance.

In Japanese dubbing audio, the part without audio is the original sound source + subtitle super.

The past Japanese subtitles in the main story of DISC1 are adapted to the main story master for this product. Subtitles are removed or added to parts that do not fit at that time due to version differences such as cuts and audio, or parts that need to be added.

Some videos and audio are unsightly, but they are due to the original version.

Some of the video benefits are recorded on SD.

The German version for video bonuses is a digitized version of the original 35mm print that has been used for about 20 years. It is recorded in a state that has deteriorated due to years of screening and aging.

[moviemaker]

Originally Posted by Ben_R

It looks the same as the 2017 blu ray set below.



Found some info, hope this helps

The first 4K UHD version (2 copies of the HDR version and the SDR version) + 3 <final edition> BDs that were discontinued in the past release, a 5-disc set permanent preservation version.

Original title: CROSS OF IRON
Year of production: 1977
Country of production: England = West Germany
Release date: 1977.3.17/February 2000/2017.8.26
Recording time:
UHD main story about 133 minutes x 2 + video bonus about 115 minutes
VHS version about 128 minutes
German version about 132 minutes

Specifications:

Color 2160p Ultra High Definition 16:9 Single-sided 3-layer UHD x 2 + Single-sided 2-layer BD x 3 2

audios: 1 main English Dolby True-HD (MONO) : 2 Main Japanese Dolby True-HD (MONO)

Subtitles: 7 Japanese for 1 to 6 main episodes 2 duking auxiliary Japanese

Enclosed items: 92P commentary enclosed

[Contents of each disc]

UHD1 HDR Dolby Vision Main Story
UHD2 SDR main story
BD1 Main story 133 minutes

screen size 1:1.85

domestic restore master use Original English (Linear PCM/MONO, Dolby True HD Advanced 96K Upsampling/MONO) Japanese dubbing / Nippon TV "Wednesday Roadshow" version (DTS-HD Master Audio/MONO) Japanese subtitles for the main story x 6 types 12017 revised version 22015 NHK broadcast version 32013 BD version 42010 DVD version 52000 DVD & VHS version 61985 VHS & LD version Dubbing auxiliary Japanese subtitles x 1 type

BD2

Passion & Poetry: Sam Peckinpah's War (47 minutes and 54 seconds, HD recording)

On location (SD recording): Sam Peckinpah (5 minutes and 21 seconds), James Co burn (5 minutes and 45 seconds), James Mason (6 minutes and 22 seconds), Maximilian Schell (4 minutes and 48 seconds), David Warner (3 minutes and 23 seconds)

Kruger Kisses Kern (8 minutes and 50 seconds Seconds, SD recording)

Vadim & Sam: Father and Son (6 minutes 06 seconds, SD recording)

Letters from Vadim & Sam (3 minutes and 59 seconds, SD recording)

Cutting Roo m Floor (4 minutes and 26 seconds, SD recording)

Steiner in Japan (2 minutes 00 seconds, SD recording)

Mike's Homemovies: Steiner & Kiesel Meet Again (7 minutes 44 seconds, SD recording)

German version trailer (3 minutes and 22 seconds, SD recording)

US version TV spot (31 seconds, SD recording)

US/UK version trailer (3 minutes and 45 seconds, HD recording)

2017 digital remastered version Japan release preview Edition (1 minute and 43 seconds, HD recording)

1985 King Records VHS edition / Screen size 1:1.33 (about 128 minutes, SD recording)

BD3

German version (telecine from the 35mm print when it was first released in Germany in 1977, screen size about 1:1.55, 131 minutes and 27 seconds, HD recording)

Due to the damage to some prints in the main story, there are about 2 minutes in total where the parts are connected with overseas English DVD materials. The screen size is different for the corresponding part, and the audio is in English. Please understand in advance.

BD1 to 3 will be the same content as the DISC of "War War Harawata" ≪Final Edition≫ (KIXF-513~515) released in the past.

Product specifications are subject to change. Please understand in advance.

In Japanese dubbing audio, the part without audio is the original sound source + subtitle super.

The past Japanese subtitles in the main story of DISC1 are adapted to the main story master for this product. Subtitles are removed or added to parts that do not fit at that time due to version differences such as cuts and audio, or parts that need to be added.

Some videos and audio are unsightly, but they are due to the original version.

Some of the video benefits are recorded on SD.

The German version for video bonuses is a digitized version of the original 35mm print that has been used for about 20 years. It is recorded in a state that has deteriorated due to years of screening and aging.

Thanks so much for the detailed breakdown, Ben!

This set is tempting. Japanese encoding quality is usually pretty good, and the fact that these Blu-rays are Region A is a huge bonus. While I do have a region-free player, it's reassuring to know I could still enjoy the discs on any standard player if my current setup ever fails.

The comprehensive package with multiple versions, extensive bonus content, and that 92-page booklet makes this feel like a definitive release. I'm seriously considering picking this up and taking one for "the team."

[Ben_R]

Originally Posted by moviemaker

[Show spoiler]Thanks so much for the detailed breakdown, Ben!

This set is tempting. Japanese encoding quality is usually pretty good, and the fact that these Blu-rays are Region A is a huge bonus. While I do have a region-free player, it's reassuring to know I could still enjoy the discs on any standard player if my current setup ever fails.

The comprehensive package with multiple versions, extensive bonus content, and that 92-page booklet makes this feel like a definitive release. I'm seriously considering picking this up and taking one for "the team."

No problem, it’s not the best but it gives us the gist. I’ve got the blu ray set which has nice PQ and I pre-ordered this as soon as it went live. I’m in full agreement it’s not cheap but trying to get Jap releases after release date can be a nightmare.

If you want the cuts it’s a no-brainer, if you can swallow the cost i’d get it ordered tout suite. I’ve got the 4K StudioCanal release which uses a BD-100 for the 133 cut so I will use that disc in this set.

[jtarvainen]

Do the German and Japanese releases contain the "grindhouse" version scanned from Mike Siegel's personal print?

[Dailyan]

Originally Posted by jtarvainen

Do the German and Japanese releases contain the "grindhouse" version scanned from Mike Siegel's personal print?

The StudioCanal 4K does not contain the “grindhouse” version. Although, I personally wouldn’t recommend watching it. It’s from a dated looking scan/scanner and barely standard definition at times:
https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&...223703&i=4&l=0

[jtarvainen]

Originally Posted by Dailyan

The StudioCanal 4K does not contain the “grindhouse” version. Although, I personally wouldn’t recommend watching it. It’s from a dated looking scan/scanner and barely standard definition at times:
https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&...223703&i=4&l=0

By ”StudioCanal 4K”, do you also mean the Japanese and German releases?

I’m aware of the poor quality, it’s just that I much prefer the colors to the restoration’s brown/green wash.

[mike siegel]

Originally Posted by jtarvainen

Do the German and Japanese releases contain the "grindhouse" version scanned from Mike Siegel's personal print?

So far the only new 4K releases without my 35mm are the UK/F Studiocanal steelbooks. Sure it can't compare with modern Blu-ray-masters. Those who
know a bit about cinema know that modern masters are based on negative elements or at least best possible dub-elements. An old theatrical print is GENERATIONS away from that, that's how cinema used to be for ages . (It was never meant as a "serious" extra anyway, just a chance for people to see the colors etc. The restored master is nice - but the film looked not like that in cinemas 48 years ago...
Of course I could have scanned the print in 4K, but nobody would pay for this. Maybe 10 years ago, but
the market is going DOWN, in case anybody realized . Labels sell much less, I myself retire now after the last PASSION & POETRY chapter
will be finished in a few months...

The new German has the print, plus the new extras (minus the deleted scenes / outtakes, those are only on the IMPRINT box and the new Japanese box - both have the 35mm print).

Have nothing planned for the US. (Henstooth was the last label, not
sure they still own the rights).