The Boy and the Heron 4K UHD (2023) (GKIDS / Studio Ghibli)

[Hydra Spectre]

Originally Posted by professorwho

Did you consider the fact that they're most likely dupes which were cut into the original negative on release? I mean, this is to be expected for older films in general, so nothing I've said is wrong. They scanned the OCNs and those sections in particular weren't original. This isn't some "gotcha!" type revelation you seem think it is. I doubt they were A/B roll finished, so this is just how older films are. Credits and shots with optical effects are softer because they're not "cherry" OG neg and instead 2nd or 3rd generation elements (if not even higher gen in some cases).

If you wanna be this specific, then practically every older film is just as guilty of this as well by not being 100% original, untouched OCN, so I guess we should dispute any and all claims of OCN film restorations simply on the merit of them not being fully original, right?

Yeah. you're right. AFAIK The only time they actually digitally recomposited things for a near-100% OCN restoration (as some scenes still had to be from IPs) were the Star Wars Special Editions. And some scenes for them had to be taken from IPs, particularly deleted scenes like the Biggs scene and Jabba the Hutt in A New Hope.

But on the other hand, it's disappointing that Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind had digitally recomposited credits on both 2010 and 2014 BDs. The white balance on the text is different from the rest of the image (which looks rather reddish on the 2010 disc), so it looks off as opposed to using 2nd generation or 3rd generation elements with the original composited credits.

[Bubbles-11]

Originally Posted by mikezilla2

Who is supposed to be handling this in the UK ?

Elysian Film Group

[Barbossa]

Originally Posted by Bubbles-11

Elysian Film Group

Thanks.

Interesting, so not Studio Canal after all.

[E_I]

It's out on digital.

[Hydra Spectre]

IIRC The film grain and gate weave effect throughout the film IS native 4K for 4K versions. The unfiltered digital animation is upscaled to 4K first and then the 35mm effect gets applied after the 4K upscale.

[Resettito]

It must be super subtle then or doesn't translate to streaming. I watched it on Apple TV in 1080p and couldn't see much grain if any. I hope it's more present on the disc.

[Mosley likes BFDI]

If this gets a physical release in the UK, I think it'll be only DVD and Blu-ray.

[CelestialAgent]

Originally Posted by Barbossa

Thanks.

Interesting, so not Studio Canal after all.

they’ve also acquired UK theatrical rights for My Neighbour Totoro with a rerelease coming up in August

Originally Posted by Mosley likes BFDI

If this gets a physical release in the UK, I think it'll be only DVD and Blu-ray.

Elysian haven’t done any discs in almost two years (The Burning Sea)

[manzoman96]

Still have preorders for the standard and steelbook open and not sure which one I want to keep. I'm leaning towards the standard, I'm not super enthused with the steelbook cover and you don't get anything else bonus with it.

[Amiibro121]

Im shocked shout hasn't shipped my pre order from their site early already, guess I overpayed

[rynninglol]

Originally Posted by CelestialAgent

they’ve also acquired UK theatrical rights for My Neighbour Totoro with a rerelease coming up in August



Elysian haven’t done any discs in almost two years (The Burning Sea)

They're doing a theatrical rerelease? Any other news on this? I can't find anything on it.

[CelestialAgent]

Originally Posted by rynninglol

They're doing a theatrical rerelease? Any other news on this? I can't find anything on it.

FDA are listing it for 2nd August, although I don’t know how big the release will be or if they’ve acquired the rest of the back catalogue. Though based on Heron, other recent anime releases and being the summer holidays I assume it will cover the chains and be both dubbed and subbed.

[Hedrox]

This scan looks like a mess because it has two video streams, presumably one with English text and another with Japanese.

Disc Title : The Boy and the Heron
Disc Label : The_Boy_and_the_Heron
Disc Size : 98,314,252,471 bytes
Protection : AACS2
Playlist : 00200.MPLS
Size : 91,511,654,400 bytes
Length : 02:03:56.929
Total Bitrate : 98.44 Mbps

Video : MPEG-H HEVC Video / 71,906 kbps / 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / HDR10 / Limited Range / BT.2020 / PQ / BT.2020 non-constant / Mastering display color primaries:BT.2020 / Mastering display luminance:min:0.0001 cd/m2, max:1000.0000 cd/m2 / Maximum Content Light Level:991 cd / m2 / Maximum Frame-Average Light Level:299 cd/m2

Video : MPEG-H HEVC Video (1) / 4,184 (70898) kbps / 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / HDR10 / Limited Range / BT.2020 / PQ / BT.2020 non-constant / Mastering display color primaries:BT.2020 / Mastering display luminance:min:0.0001 cd/m2, max:1000.0000 cd/m2 / Maximum Content Light Level:991 cd / m2 / Maximum Frame-Average Light Level:299 cd/m2

* Video : MPEG-H HEVC Video / 9,406 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / Limited Range / BT.2020 / PQ / BT.2020 non-constant / Mastering display color primaries:BT.2020 / Mastering display luminance:min:0.0001 cd/m2, max:1000.0000 cd/m2 / Maximum Content Light Level:991 cd / m2 / Maximum Frame-Average Light Level:299 cd/m2

Video : MPEG-H HEVC Video (1) / 539 (9132) kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / Limited Range / BT.2020 / PQ / BT.2020 non-constant / Mastering display color primaries:BT.2020 / Mastering display luminance:min:0.0001 cd/m2, max:1000.0000 cd/m2 / Maximum Content Light Level:991 cd / m2 / Maximum Frame-Average Light Level:299 cd/m2

Audio : English / Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio / 7.1 / 48 kHz / 4256 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Embedded:5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -31dB)
Audio : English / Dolby Digital Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -27dB
Audio : Japanese / Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio / 7.1 / 48 kHz / 4156 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Embedded:5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -29dB)
Audio : Spanish / Dolby Digital Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -27dB

Subtitle : English / 21.66 kbps
Subtitle : English / 16.14 kbps
Subtitle : English / 12.64 kbps
Subtitle : Spanish / 13.87 kbps
Subtitle : French / 14.16 kbps
Subtitle : English / 0.91 kbps
Subtitle : Spanish / 1.02 kbps

[nicwood]

Originally Posted by Hedrox

This scan looks like a mess because it has two video streams, presumably one with English text and another with Japanese.

If they indeed retained the original text when you select Japanese it’d be very welcome news from Shout / GKIDS. Hopefully we’ll get confirmation for this soon and whether the encode turned out fine.

[brownstones19]

Target order delayed

[PonyoBellanote]

Originally Posted by nicwood

If they indeed retained the original text when you select Japanese it’d be very welcome news from Shout / GKIDS. Hopefully we’ll get confirmation for this soon and whether the encode turned out fine.

Uh.. I could be wrong and there could be certain exceptions, but all Japanese releases from GKIDS, and mostly, ALL Studio Ghibli releases from them, have pretty much always had different angle views for both English and Japanese. You watch English, you get English credits. You watch Japanese, you get Japanese credits. I don't understand your doubt.

[Medality]

Originally Posted by Hedrox

This scan looks like a mess because it has two video streams, presumably one with English text and another with Japanese.

I think the second video stream is the feature-length storyboards. The other language stream is most probably done with seamless branching on another playlist.

[Hedrox]

Originally Posted by Medality

I think the second video stream is the feature-length storyboards. The other language stream is most probably done with seamless branching on another playlist.

I doubt the storyboards would also be in 4K HDR.

[Robert George]

Originally Posted by Hedrox

This scan looks like a mess because it has two video streams, presumably one with English text and another with Japanese.

I'm not sure what is meant by "this scan looks like a mess" as this plays perfectly. The default audio is English and the intertitles are also English. I haven't tried selecting the Japanese track because, well, I don't speak Japanese. I can attest the English dub is quite good.

I don't pretend to have the technical knowledge of Blu-ray structure to make any sort of judgement about the merits or otherwise of this encode. I only know this is a near perfect presentation of what I am considering top-tier Miyazaki. Beautiful film and a welcome addition to my Miyazaki collection.

[sonicyogurt]

Originally Posted by Robert George

I'm not sure what is meant by "this scan looks like a mess" as this plays perfectly.

I took that as meaning the report generated by the BDInfo scan rather than a knock on the presentation itself.