The Perfect Storm - Page 5 - Blu-ray Forum

ClaytonMG · 07-23-2008, 04:26 PM

Pretty certain they ALL say Dolby Digital TrueHD (which actually isn't a format but I'll let it slide since on the disc menu itself it's labeled Dolby TrueHD).

rkolinski · 07-23-2008, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad2erin

Same here not even an email yet. I also ordered Dark City so I'm wondering if they are waiting a week to ship them together.

Well, I just received both the "Perfect Storm" and "Dark City" yesterday from WB so I can't understand the problems others have had with delivery from WB. "Perfect Storm" has fairly good PQ but the AQ is the real selling point on this disk. Planning on watching "Dark City" today!

Rich

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Beta Man · 07-23-2008, 04:44 PM

Nice turntable RKolinski

robertc88 · 07-23-2008, 05:19 PM

[QUOTE=rkolinski;1039023]Well, I just received both the "Perfect Storm" and "Dark City" yesterday from WB so I can't understand the problems others have had with delivery from WB. "Perfect Storm" has fairly good PQ but the AQ is the real selling point on this disk. Planning on watching "Dark City" today!

You were able to play TrueHD track using Panny BD30?
I couldn't get it to work. I thought the audio would be great but have yet to experience it. Hopefully I'll get the FW upgraded tonight.

sfmarine · 07-23-2008, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad2erin

Same here not even an email yet. I also ordered Dark City so I'm wondering if they are waiting a week to ship them together.

I hate when they do that. You order two movies to save on shipping and they wait until they can send them both to save on shipping costs.

Bruvydsb · 07-23-2008, 05:42 PM

Seems fair, if you are going to save on shipping, why can't they?

Alan Gordon · 07-23-2008, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruvydsb

Seems fair, if you are going to save on shipping, why can't they?

The problem is they don't.

Every time I get two movies in the same week from the WB store, they ship them out on the same day and I receive them on the same day, but they are in two different packages.

WB (supposedly) shipped my package with "The Perfect Storm" last Friday, but UPS tracking just says that they have received the billing information.

~Alan

Bluballs31 · 07-23-2008, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad2erin

Same here not even an email yet. I also ordered Dark City so I'm wondering if they are waiting a week to ship them together.

I just checked and it looks like it went out yesterday for me. I love their shipping because they seem to overnight usually. However, its pretty dumb that they tend to ship me movies coming out in the same week that were placed on one order in seperate boxes. For example next week I am anticipating three boxes containing the harold and kumar movies and lost boys

Bluballs31 · 07-23-2008, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Gordon

The problem is they don't.

Every time I get two movies in the same week from the WB store, they ship them out on the same day and I receive them on the same day, but they are in two different packages.

WB (supposedly) shipped my package with "The Perfect Storm" last Friday, but UPS tracking just says that they have received the billing information.

~Alan

lol didnt read this post till after I posted. It definitely is annoying. I would think it would save them tons of money if they worked this out.

rkolinski · 07-23-2008, 07:27 PM

[QUOTE=robertc88;1039128]

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkolinski

Well, I just received both the "Perfect Storm" and "Dark City" yesterday from WB so I can't understand the problems others have had with delivery from WB. "Perfect Storm" has fairly good PQ but the AQ is the real selling point on this disk. Planning on watching "Dark City" today!

You were able to play TrueHD track using Panny BD30?
I couldn't get it to work. I thought the audio would be great but have yet to experience it. Hopefully I'll get the FW upgraded tonight.

Yes I was and it sounded awesome! However, you should be aware that the PQ is not the best I've ever seen on blu. Thought the picture was kind of soft but the colors, etc. were very good.

rkolinski · 07-23-2008, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beta Man

Nice turntable RKolinski

Thanks for the compliment Beta Man! I've also scheduled an ISF technician to come out and do my picture right with the VP50Pro and all of my video inputs. Was told it would only cost me $360 which I think is a great price considering I have been unable to find anyone in my state who knows anything about setting up a TV and VP50Pro at the same time for ultimate PQ!

lgans316 · 07-24-2008, 03:32 AM

Courtesy: Patsfan123@AVS

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Dolby TrueHD (lossless compression) 16-bit/48kHz
												Total	Video
Title						Codec	Length	Movie Size	Disc Size	Bitrate	Bitrate	Main Audio Track				Secondary Audio Track
-----						------	-------	--------------	--------------	-------	-------	-----------------				---------------------
The Perfect Storm				VC-1	2:09:49	27,576,938,496	30,490,657,664	28.32	16.86	Dolby TrueHD 5.1 1878Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)	DD AC3 5.1-EX 640Kbps

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PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:           00000.mpls
Size:           27,576,938,496 bytes
Length:         2:09:49 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate:  28.32 Mbps
Description:    

FILES:

Name            Size            Length          Time In         Time Out        
----            ----            ------          -------         --------        
00000.M2TS      27,576,938,496  2:09:49.198     0:00:00.000     2:09:49.198     

VIDEO:

Codec               Bitrate         Description     
-----               -------         -----------     
VC-1 Video          16856 kbps      1080p / 23.976fps

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby TrueHD Audio              English         1878 kbps       5.1 / 48kHz / 16-bit / 1878kbps (AC3-EX Core: 5.1-EX / 48kHz / 640kbps)
Dolby Digital EX Audio          English         640 kbps        5.1-EX / 48kHz / 640kbps
Dolby Digital EX Audio          French          640 kbps        5.1-EX / 48kHz / 640kbps
Dolby Digital EX Audio          French          640 kbps        5.1-EX / 48kHz / 640kbps
Dolby Digital EX Audio          German          640 kbps        5.1-EX / 48kHz / 640kbps
Dolby Digital EX Audio          Italian         640 kbps        5.1-EX / 48kHz / 640kbps
Dolby Digital EX Audio          Japanese        640 kbps        5.1-EX / 48kHz / 640kbps
Dolby Digital EX Audio          Spanish         640 kbps        5.1-EX / 48kHz / 640kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             Spanish         192 kbps        2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps

SUBTITLES:

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Presentation Graphics           Norwegian       24 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Portuguese      22 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Portuguese      19 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         21 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         22 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Swedish         16 kbps                         

CHAPTERS:

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1               0:00:00.000     Chapter 1                       
2               0:02:44.831     Chapter 2                       
3               0:07:56.976     Chapter 3                       
4               0:10:35.134     Chapter 4                       
5               0:13:38.984     Chapter 5                       
6               0:16:56.015     Chapter 6                       
7               0:21:18.110     Chapter 7                       
8               0:23:47.759     Chapter 8                       
9               0:26:48.440     Chapter 9                       
10              0:32:42.293     Chapter 10                      
11              0:36:41.365     Chapter 11                      
12              0:41:15.806     Chapter 12                      
13              0:44:44.014     Chapter 13                      
14              0:48:26.403     Chapter 14                      
15              0:51:01.391     Chapter 15                      
16              0:55:14.311     Chapter 16                      
17              0:56:54.077     Chapter 17                      
18              1:00:56.152     Chapter 18                      
19              1:03:24.801     Chapter 19                      
20              1:05:45.775     Chapter 20                      
21              1:09:27.997     Chapter 21                      
22              1:14:47.483     Chapter 22                      
23              1:19:47.949     Chapter 23                      
24              1:22:37.452     Chapter 24                      
25              1:25:37.465     Chapter 25                      
26              1:29:08.009     Chapter 26                      
27              1:32:00.014     Chapter 27                      
28              1:34:31.165     Chapter 28                      
29              1:38:32.239     Chapter 29                      
30              1:40:46.874     Chapter 30                      
31              1:42:15.629     Chapter 31                      
32              1:44:13.080     Chapter 32                      
33              1:47:32.946     Chapter 33                      
34              1:50:14.441     Chapter 34                      
35              1:53:11.951     Chapter 35                      
36              1:56:09.963     Chapter 36                      
37              1:57:10.023     Chapter 37                      
38              2:00:36.562     Chapter 38                      
39              2:02:27.340     Chapter 39

Quote:

Jaggies are definitely fixed. When I looked at the back of the disc I swore it was a BD25. When I saw the scan I took another look second layer ring is very faint. Not that it really matters since its only 30GB.

Code:

The Perfect Storm (HD DVD - jaggies)		VC-1	2:09:42	23,245,844,480*~25,807,480,412	23.89  ~20.22	Dolby TrueHD 5.1 16-bit	No	DDPlus 5.1  640Kbps

HD DVD 20.22 Mbps vs Blu-ray 16.85 Mbps

Video bit rate : Limited to 30Mbps

bunkaroo · 07-24-2008, 04:05 AM

FYI - there seems to be an issue with the TrueHD track for those using the Panny BD30.

A user at AVS reported no sounded and a flashing indicator on his Onkyo 605 when trying to use the TrueHD track.

I have the same player and receiver, with updated firmware, and experienced the same issue.

The track seems to decode fine on the PS3.

I've reported it to Panasonic.

ClaytonMG · 07-24-2008, 04:07 AM

So I guess no matter how many times people explain that some discs were created while HD DVD was still around (since they do their encodes in house, don't you think they were set up for HD DVD when they did this encode?) people are still going to whine about releases that aren't going to be fixed. And no matter how many times WB says they're working on getting better and that they understand the Blu-Ray fans, people are still going to ignore them and try to complain. Sad....

dialog_gvf · 07-24-2008, 04:28 AM

^^^ Another HD DVD port.

50GB - 30GB = 20GB

Grubert · 07-24-2008, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

^^^ Another HD DVD port.

50GB - 30GB = 20GB

However, the jaggies on the HD DVD have been corrected:

HD DVD

Blu-ray

lgans316 · 07-24-2008, 07:58 AM

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post14356292

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperron

You can see that The Perfect Storm was derived from the same master as the HD DVD. The aliasing is still there. They just covered it up by filtering the movie. If you look closely, you can still see the aliasing artifacts where ever there are sharp hoizontal transitions. Instead of being sharp aliasing, it's now sharp aliasing that has been run through a softening filter. The final outcome looks like a blend between aliasing and color fringing.

Grubert · 07-24-2008, 12:40 PM

Well that's disappointing.

kefrank · 07-24-2008, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grubert

Well that's disappointing.

it's just the opinion of one guy on AVS. i would take it with a grain of salt.

robertc88 · 07-24-2008, 01:55 PM

I'm passing on this one, especially with the Panny BD30 audio issue. Gotta save for September and October releases and every little bit helps.

PQ was a mixed bag on my Panny plasma display ranging from 3.50 to 4.25.

I do like the movie and I'm disappointed with this one but in all honesty I can do without it. This is another instance of Netflix helping out with viewing before buying.

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07-23-2008, 04:26 PM	#81
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:842 Blu-ray collection:2381 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	Pretty certain they ALL say Dolby Digital TrueHD (which actually isn't a format but I'll let it slide since on the disc menu itself it's labeled Dolby TrueHD).

07-23-2008, 04:44 PM	#83
Beta Man Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Juuuuuuuust A Bit Outside.... Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:25	Nice turntable RKolinski

07-23-2008, 05:19 PM	#84
robertc88 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007	[QUOTE=rkolinski;1039023]Well, I just received both the "Perfect Storm" and "Dark City" yesterday from WB so I can't understand the problems others have had with delivery from WB. "Perfect Storm" has fairly good PQ but the AQ is the real selling point on this disk. Planning on watching "Dark City" today! You were able to play TrueHD track using Panny BD30? I couldn't get it to work. I thought the audio would be great but have yet to experience it. Hopefully I'll get the FW upgraded tonight.

07-23-2008, 05:42 PM	#86
Bruvydsb Member Member since:Jun 2008 Blu-ray collection:31	Seems fair, if you are going to save on shipping, why can't they?

07-24-2008, 04:05 AM	#93
bunkaroo Senior Member Member since:Feb 2007 4K collection:756 Blu-ray collection:1729 DVD collection:2 Blu-ray reviews:5 Trading Score:149	FYI - there seems to be an issue with the TrueHD track for those using the Panny BD30. A user at AVS reported no sounded and a flashing indicator on his Onkyo 605 when trying to use the TrueHD track. I have the same player and receiver, with updated firmware, and experienced the same issue. The track seems to decode fine on the PS3. I've reported it to Panasonic.

07-24-2008, 04:07 AM	#94
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:842 Blu-ray collection:2381 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	So I guess no matter how many times people explain that some discs were created while HD DVD was still around (since they do their encodes in house, don't you think they were set up for HD DVD when they did this encode?) people are still going to whine about releases that aren't going to be fixed. And no matter how many times WB says they're working on getting better and that they understand the Blu-Ray fans, people are still going to ignore them and try to complain. Sad....

07-24-2008, 04:28 AM	#95
dialog_gvf Moderator Member since:Nov 2006 Location:Toronto Blu-ray collection:320	^^^ Another HD DVD port. 50GB - 30GB = 20GB

07-24-2008, 12:40 PM	#98
Grubert Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Jan 2006 Blu-ray collection:573 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:2	Well that's disappointing.

07-24-2008, 01:55 PM	#100
robertc88 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007	I'm passing on this one, especially with the Panny BD30 audio issue. Gotta save for September and October releases and every little bit helps. PQ was a mixed bag on my Panny plasma display ranging from 3.50 to 4.25. I do like the movie and I'm disappointed with this one but in all honesty I can do without it. This is another instance of Netflix helping out with viewing before buying.

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