Guillermo del Toro Talks More At the Mountains of Madness

[octagon]

Originally Posted by iank

So nothing should actually be aimed at adults anymore?

Wonderful.

You don't have to spend over a hundred million dollars to make movies aimed at adults.

And if you do want to spend over a hundred million dollars of somebody else's money to make a movie you kind have to figure those people are going to want their money back at some point.

Don't you?

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by octagon

You don't have to spend over a hundred million dollars to make movies aimed at adults.

And if you do want to spend over a hundred million dollars of somebody else's money to make a movie you kind have to figure those people are going to want their money back at some point.

Don't you?

I can't believe you'd even attempt to justify the reason Hollywood by and large turns out nothing but mass consumption crap.

Bottom line a lot of the greatest films never would have been made today because some pinhead would have done the math and determined the gross profit margins wouldn't meet the projections for the quarter.

[Foggy]

So tits, gore and naughty language is needed for a film to be aimed at adults, not interesting complex ideas, mature characters and cleverly conceived tension.

[iank]

Yes, because that's exactly what he said.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

I can't believe you'd even attempt to justify the reason Hollywood by and large turns out nothing but mass consumption crap.

If you can't make a movie for less than a hundred million dollars then the pinheads are part of the deal. They just are. And the pinheads are completely justified in wanting to make their money back.

How is that even remotely unreasonable?

People don't have to like that but I don't see how anybody can deny it.

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

Bottom line a lot of the greatest films never would have been made today because some pinhead would have done the math and determined the gross profit margins wouldn't meet the projections for the quarter.

How many of those great films would have been made if they cost over a hundred million dollars? Somewhere around none of them?

Casablanca cost a million bucks which is around fifteen million in current dollars. Psycho cost about six million 2014 dollars. Alien? $36M current dollars.

In 1990 Goodfellas cost roughly $45 million current dollars and only sixteen years later The Departed cost over twice that much.

Hell, maybe the pinheads should have more control. Then maybe Fincher's Millenium movies wouldn't need to take in $300M just to break even and they could actually get made.

Originally Posted by Foggy

So tits, gore and naughty language is needed for a film to be aimed at adults, not interesting complex ideas, mature characters and cleverly conceived tension.

If released today Psycho would probably be right on the edge of PG-13. Unless of course Hitchcock decided to knuckle under to the 'we want a real movie, not some tweener crap' contingent. Then he might have skipped all that silhouette, blood twirling around a drain crap and given us a mature, adult arterial spray or three.

Wouldn't that have been cool?

[The Fallen Deity]

A PG-13 version of At The Mountains Of Madness wouldn't work.

[Himmel]

Guillermo del Toro Wants to Make a ‘Weirder, Smaller’ Version of ‘At the Mountains of Madness,’ Possibly at Netflix

-TheWrap

[Cremildo]

[FiendishlyInventive]

Yes please!

[vertigop1ayer]

Come on Netflix, give him a blank check!

[Cremildo]

CGI test from the shelved version

[Mr. Chaverria]

I would have loved to see him do it.

[unberechenbar]

Wow. Sucks to think about what could have been.

[Cremildo]

Del Toro seems to have lost the appetite for this project. Speaking to Empire Magazine, he said:

The one that’s on the bucket list that I think is gonna stay there is [“At The Mountains Of Madness”]. It’s too big, too crazy, too R-rated, I guess. And to be completely candid, I don’t know that I want to do it after “Frankenstein.”

[levcore]

Geez i'd much rather have this than another telling or Pinochio or Frankenstein. Perhaps give us something we haven't had on the big screen before? (or small screen if it's Netflix lol)

[Jaymole]

Sad to hear this. He has made 3 remakes in a row so perhaps he has lost a little of the spark he once had.

[levcore]

3 in a row? That's ridiculous.

[Rayjg]

Every director has that dream project they can’t get made for whatever reason. Lynch had Ronnie Rocket, Dreyer had his Jesus bio and for years Gilliam had Don Quixote. Scorsese seems to have more success than most at getting his dream projects (Last Temptation of Christ, Gangs of New York, Silence) made eventually.

[Hedrox]

Originally Posted by Jaymole

Sad to hear this. He has made 3 remakes in a row so perhaps he has lost a little of the spark he once had.

Here's my hot take, Guillermo has been on a downward trajectory since winning the Oscar with Shape of Water. Feels like he's not challenging himself as much as he used to.

He still makes good movies mind you, but I don't think current del Toro would pull off a Pan's Labyrinth.

[d2cheer]

I am a bit surprised more wan't made of the short film that he stole from to win the Oscar.

Probably nothing left in the tank since the 3 remakes...