Oppo BDP-83 Blu-ray Player Thread

[HDTV1080P]

Originally Posted by Wileyman

Hey fellas,

I currently own a BDP-83 and am looking into a Marantz receiver, particularly the SR6004. This will be my first experience with HDMI audio and I was curious; can the BDP-83 bitstream dvd-a over hdmi and if so would the marantz be able to decode it?

Sorry, but my salesman couldn't really answer any of my questions regarding dvd-a and sacd. Any help would be much appreciated!

According to page 4 in the SR6004 manual DVD-Audio and SACD are fully supported with that receiver when using HDMI (also 2.0 and 5.1 SACD DSD is supported according to other parts of the manual). The OPPO BDP-83 fully supports DSD SACD and DVD-Audio over HDMI at full resolution quality.

SR6004 User Manual - English (21MB) (8/5/2009)

[HDTV1080P]

Minor OPPO BDP-83 issues I am experiencing with at least two players using firmware 1224

Overall the OPPO BDP-83 has been a excellent BLU-RAY player. It outperforms $4,500+ Japanese made BLU-RAY players in speed and navigation and matches or beats them in video performance for only $499 (The OPPO players I bought were $588 each since I got the RS-232 option for $89 more). The OPPO BDP-83 player was engineered in the United States and assembled in China. I have seen both good and bad quality consumer products come out of China over the last several years. China sometimes makes or assembles some excellent quality products like the OPPO BDP-83. Being assembled in China also helps keep cost lower for the consumer in this global economy.

The problem I started noticing after firmware 1224 update

I do not know if these small problems are due to a software bugs in firmware version 1224 or if I just started noticing this issue after 1224 update. I think these issues might be firmware 1224 related. All these minor issues only occur once and a while with an OPPO player that has been turned off for around 2 hours. These issues do not occur with a warm player which makes me think there is something going on with the player when it firsts boots up.

I have several OPPO BDP-83's and these issues occur on the 2 players I tested:

1. As mentioned before in the following post there is some type of handshaking issue that sometimes reduces the picture quality if the equipment is not turned on in a certain order.
See link
https://forum.blu-ray.com/3026885-post58.html

2. I would estimate that about once out of 20 or 30 times after powering on the OPPO it messes up and reports that there is a new firmware update available. When one tries to download the update one discovers that there really was no new firmware update and that 1224 was the latest version. For some reason the OPPO thinks there is a new firmware update when there really is not one. Some type of glitch when first turning it on. Only happens about once out of 20 or 30 times after turning it on. False new firmware notifications never happen before.

3. I would estimate that about once out of 20 or 30 times after powering on the OPPO that it has incorrect loading information. After I turn the OPPO on and try and load a disc, the tray closes but then the player gets stuck in the "OPEN" status message mode even when the tray has been physically closed for a minute or longer. The only way to fix this glitch is to power cycle the player by hitting the power button.

Besides the above glitches happing once and a while the player has been able to play 100% of all BLU-RAY's I watched perfectly fine so far (accept for some minor BD-LIVE issues). I hope a future firmware update would fix these minor issues. I am experiencing these problems on two OPPO BDP-83's and in theory this is some type of software problem.

[oppopioneer]

Originally Posted by Wileyman

Hey fellas,

I currently own a BDP-83 and am looking into a Marantz receiver, particularly the SR6004. This will be my first experience with HDMI audio and I was curious; can the BDP-83 bitstream dvd-a over hdmi and if so would the marantz be able to decode it?

Sorry, but my salesman couldn't really answer any of my questions regarding dvd-a and sacd. Any help would be much appreciated!

I would also take a close look into the Pioneer Elite recievers - Pioneer Elite SC-25 or SC-27, SC-09 I have owned Onkyo, Denon, Yamaha, Pioneer and the Pioneer Elite is the best reciever I owned for sound, for 2 channel audio and for surround sound home theater. On many of the forums/websites they highly recommend Pioneer Elite recievers too like on AVS, Home Theater etc.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/receivers-...tz-sr6004.html

http://hometheatermag.com/receivers/..._av_receiver/#

[oppopioneer]

You'll also be able to get even better deals on last year's Pioneer Elite recievers like the SC-05 and SC-07.

[HDTV1080P]

Originally Posted by oppopioneer

You'll also be able to get even better deals on last year's Pioneer Elite recievers like the SC-05 and SC-07.

The SC-05 and SC-07 are 2008 model Pioneer receivers and it is almost impossible to find new ones (some warehouse might still have some). You might be able find used ones on EBAY. The Pioneer SC-25 and SC-27 are last year's 2009 models. If Pioneer releases Elite receivers for 2010 they will be HDMI 1.4 compatible and historically they should come out in July/August. Pioneer makes one of the best A/V receivers. There are also many other good companies like Denon, Yamaha, etc. All the Pioneer Elite receivers are THX certified which is a rare feature to find in some other brands.

[LOTR07]

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

The SC-05 and SC-07 are 2008 model Pioneer receivers and it is almost impossible to find new ones (some warehouse might still have some). You might be able find used ones on EBAY. The Pioneer SC-25 and SC-27 are last year's 2009 models. If Pioneer releases Elite receivers for 2010 they will be HDMI 1.4 compatible and historically they should come out in July/August. Pioneer makes one of the best A/V receivers. There are also many other good companies like Denon, Yamaha, etc. All the Pioneer Elite receivers are THX certified which is a rare feature to find in some other brands.

here is a press release for the non-elite line of recievers...with all the functions these lower end models have i can't wait to see what's in store for the elite line.

http://www.beststuff.com/blog/2010/0...streaming.html

[EWL5]

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

All the Pioneer Elite receivers are THX certified which is a rare feature to find in some other brands.

THX has lost a lot of luster in my mind. They gave certification to the $3500 Lexicon BD player and then pulled it after some controversy involving how it's just an Oppo BDP83 stuffed into a heavier chassis.

http://www.lexicon.com/products/details.asp?ID=27

[airkitty]

i am using a bdp 83 with a marantz 7002 receiver fed via hdmi. it sounds good and both/either machine can process all bd/dvd-a/sacd audio -sweet. you will not be disappointed with marantz - very good sound quality and honest power ratings.

[Wileyman]

Hey thanks for checking into that for me HDTV! And that's good to know it decodes DSD too. Thanks you very much!

oppopioneer, I was originally sold on the sc-25 but started checking into marantz and was drawn to the warm sound it creates and thought it would blend well with my somewhat harsh sounding klipsch speakers. But now you've got me thinking I need to check into the Elite's again before I settle on anything ha ha! I didn't realize there was so much love for the Elite over the marantz around here, and I definitely don't want to regret my purchase

Anyway, thanks for the help and recommendations!

[oppopioneer]

Originally Posted by Wileyman

Hey thanks for checking into that for me HDTV! And that's good to know it decodes DSD too. Thanks you very much!

oppopioneer, I was originally sold on the sc-25 but started checking into marantz and was drawn to the warm sound it creates and thought it would blend well with my somewhat harsh sounding klipsch speakers. But now you've got me thinking I need to check into the Elite's again before I settle on anything ha ha! I didn't realize there was so much love for the Elite over the marantz around here, and I definitely don't want to regret my purchase

Anyway, thanks for the help and recommendations!

From what I heard Marantz makes some products for Denon, some say a Denon is just a re-branded Marantz. I've owned a Denon and they make good recievers. Denon would be my second choice to a Pio Elite.

Pio Elite recievers are known for their neutral sound and accuracy, I really like their sound for HT and audiophiles rave about their outstanding 2 channel audio sound.

[EWL5]

Originally Posted by oppopioneer

From what I heard Marantz makes some products for Denon, some say a Denon is just a re-branded Marantz. I've owned a Denon and they make good recievers. Denon would be my second choice to a Pio Elite.

At least for BD players, it's the other way around: the Denon version came out first, followed by a more expensive Marantz version with identical specs if not 100% identical parts. In the end, they are both part of the same company, D&M Holdings.

Originally Posted by oppopioneer

Pio Elite recievers are known for their neutral sound and accuracy, I really like their sound for HT and audiophiles rave about their outstanding 2 channel audio sound.

Pioneer AVR's have changed over time from the conventional AB amp to the more efficient type D. I own the 84TXSi, which was still AB. I couldn't tell you how the newer amps sound but they should save you more on the electricity bill.

[HDTV1080P]

Originally Posted by hdtv1080p

3. I would estimate that about once out of 20 or 30 times after powering on the oppo that it has incorrect loading information. After I turn the oppo on and try and load a disc, the tray closes but then the player gets stuck in the "open" status message mode even when the tray has been physically closed for a minute or longer. The only way to fix this glitch is to power cycle the player by hitting the power button.

OPPO Digital INC responded to my email to inform me that issue number 3 I mentioned is a known problem that will be corrected in a future firmware update.

Following is a Quote from OPPO:

"3. This is related to a handshaking issue which we anticipate resolving in a future firmware release."

[Toypor]

airkitty -

I have the same Marantz receiver and am currently using a PS3 and am thinking about an Oppo (83 or 80). I am most interested in audio quality and SACD and DVD-A quality, although DVD upconversion would be a plus. Have you used your 83 with any SACDs? If so, did you experience the "popping" issues?

[Wileyman]

Originally Posted by Toypor

airkitty -

I have the same Marantz receiver and am currently using a PS3 and am thinking about an Oppo (83 or 80). I am most interested in audio quality and SACD and DVD-A quality, although DVD upconversion would be a plus. Have you used your 83 with any SACDs? If so, did you experience the "popping" issues?

Toypor, what's the popping issue? Is this the "pop of death" issue I've read about with certain marantz receivers or is there some kind of glitch with te BDP-83's I'm not aware of?

But I will say this, my old dvd-a/sacd player was the denon DVD-757 and when I finally broke down and bought the OPPO and hooked it up I was AMAZED at the difference in sound quality. It was a major, MAJOR improvement over the denon! And that's just through my crappy yamaha receiver using the multi ch. analogs.

[frank_t]

Originally Posted by Wileyman

Toypor, what's the popping issue? Is this the "pop of death" issue I've read about with certain marantz receivers or is there some kind of glitch with te BDP-83's I'm not aware of?

But I will say this, my old dvd-a/sacd player was the denon DVD-757 and when I finally broke down and bought the OPPO and hooked it up I was AMAZED at the difference in sound quality. It was a major, MAJOR improvement over the denon! And that's just through my crappy yamaha receiver using the multi ch. analogs.

I've played several SACDs (Moody Blues, The Who, Genesis, etc...) and don't recall any issues with popping.

In fact, and maybe it's my imagination, but they sounds superior to what the PS3 could produce. Again -- sometimes we hear what we want to hear, but the Oppo 83 is an incredible player.

[oppopioneer]

Have any of you heard of or read about the Oppo NuForce Special Edition, it's suppose to be the best Oppo yet.

http://www.nuforce.com/hi/

I wonder how that compares against the Pioneer Elite bdp-09fd ?

[HDTV1080P]

Originally Posted by oppopioneer

Have any of you heard of or read about the Oppo NuForce Special Edition, it's suppose to be the best Oppo yet.

http://www.nuforce.com/hi/

I wonder how that compares against the Pioneer Elite bdp-09fd ?

There is currently only professional reviews on the OPPO BDP-83, BDP-83 Special Edition players, and Pioneer BDP-09FD. No reviews on the Nuforce Edition yet. The Special Edition and Nuforce players only advantage is improved analog outputs for those audiophiles that want to use analog outputs. For people that use digital audio output like HDMI there is no improvement in audio quality.

The OPPO BDP-83 outperforms the Pioneer BDP-09FD in speed and navigation plus it plays SACD's and DVD-Audio discs.

Oppo BDP-83SE Special Edition Blu-ray Player

Oppo BDP-83 Universal Blu-ray Player

Widescreen Review tests Pioneer's Flagship Elite Blu-ray Disc Player: The BDP-09FD

[gonk]

Originally Posted by oppopioneer

Have any of you heard of or read about the Oppo NuForce Special Edition, it's suppose to be the best Oppo yet.

http://www.nuforce.com/hi/

I wonder how that compares against the Pioneer Elite bdp-09fd ?

The NuForce Edition is basically a modded BDP-83. It is similar to the BDP-83SE, with the DAC's changed from Cirrus to ESS, but has some additional hardware tweaks. NuForce helped OPPO develop the SE, but they took it a step farther with some parts selection changes beyond what OPPO did for the SE. It is still based on the exact same platform, so the value comes for analog audio performance only.

[airkitty]

Originally Posted by Toypor

airkitty -

I have the same Marantz receiver and am currently using a PS3 and am thinking about an Oppo (83 or 80). I am most interested in audio quality and SACD and DVD-A quality, although DVD upconversion would be a plus. Have you used your 83 with any SACDs? If so, did you experience the "popping" issues?

I have not experienced pops with SACD playback on the oppo through the marantz. The marantz did have the pop issue that was resolved via a firmware/hardware update. I remember this being a Dolby True HD issue and not an SACD issue. I'm new to SACD and DVD-A but so far the results are varied for me. It seems to really depend on who did the mastering of the hi rez transfer. I'm gathering data as my wallet allows. I would like to mention that the up conversion of DVD was quite a bit better than my friends PS3 slim. We hooked them up side by side into the marantz and out to my Sony kdl40v3000.

[Headphone Czar]

I use 2 channel analog, how much better will the sound be compared to digital? I'm getting the SE this week, and will be hooked up to my Yamaha receiver amy dedicated GP V5 headphone amp.