Disney+'s - WandaVision (Season 1)

[AnimalCMan]

Originally Posted by BillieCassin

I agree with you - I think just about everything points to him being the Fox Quicksilver who was plucked out of that universe as a substitute for Dead Pietro, since Dead Pietro was, well, dead.

However, the thing that doesn't completely jive for me is that Wanda saw a ghastly glimpse of him all shot up (like she saw Vision), and he mentions being shot up...which isn't what happened to that Quicksilver.

I'm definitely looking forward to seeing how it all shakes out.

Well, we have to remember too that Wanda has influence over things in there whether or not she’s conscious of this. If she had memories of Pietro, specifically his death, those likely would have been given to Peter when he was planted in there.

I think all of his questions toward her may be similar to Vision in that her influence over him isn’t complete like the rest of the town (except Agnes, who I also believe has powers she hasn’t revealed).

In regards to that deathly glimpse, I believe that’s all Wanda and it’s her subconscious trying to wake her up to a degree by reminding her, “hey your brother was dead this can’t be him.” Similar to reminding her Vision was dead earlier.

[CyberpunkCentral]

Originally Posted by AnimalCMan

In the Fox X-Men films, he was called Peter, so whether he’s that character or some other entity in that form, he’s definitely not Pietro.

While I agree he is not the real Pietro (even though I do think the multiverse is still at play here to an extent), him being called Peter in the Foxverse doesn't mean anything. Peter could just be his nickname. We all have nicknames. Like some people call me Michael, some people call me Mikey. In some alternative universe, I'm probably called Mikael. It's all the same.

[AnimalCMan]

Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

While I agree he is not the real Pietro (even though I do think the multiverse is still at play here to an extent), him being called Peter in the Foxverse doesn't mean anything. Peter could just be his nickname. We all have nicknames. Like some people call me Michael, some people call me Mikey. In some alternative universe, I'm probably called Mikael. It's all the same.

Very true. I wasn’t trying to get into those kinds of specifics, merely making the point that I believe those quotation marks are there to signify he’s not the MCU Pietro.

[mwynn]

Originally Posted by AnimalCMan

Very true. I wasn’t trying to get into those kinds of specifics, merely making the point that I believe those quotation marks are there to signify he’s not the MCU Pietro.

There are somethings they are giving you on the surface. There is a lot going on in the background. Sometimes you even need to pause to see what else is going on. Like the tiger popping up, or Grim Reaper's helmet. Or the twins being called Demon Spawn.

[Lutz]

Maybe the hex is being generated by Vision. SWORD were weaponising his body. Wanda saved his body but the weapon activated. SWORD are being so antagonistic because they know the hex is a weapon since they created it.

[DWeickerSr]

Originally Posted by AnimalCMan

The one thing that is a constant in the hex though is nobody is just given powers they don’t already have (though it seems people may start getting powers from return trips like Monica). Point being if “Pietro” has super speed, he’d have to have been someone who already had those powers like Peter from the X-Men films.

Except the two sons don't even exist in the 'real world', and yet, they have powers.

[AnimalCMan]

Originally Posted by DWeickerSr

Except the two sons don't even exist in the 'real world', and yet, they have powers.

Exactly, they're born with their powers. That makes them mutants. I would think that much is clear. (Granted, they may also just simply not really exist outside the hex)

I was specifically talking about those who entered the hex, since we haven't seen other non-supers entering and abruptly having powers--especially specific ones like Quicksilver.

If someone intended to distract Wanda with her brother (since thinking about his death kept resurfacing the trauma she's desperately trying to hide) they would need a suitable replacement (ie someone who had the same powers).

[Joey9775]

Originally Posted by AnimalCMan

It does mean something—he’s not Pietro, which was always a given. In the Fox X-Men films, he was called Peter, so whether he’s that character or some other entity in that form, he’s definitely not Pietro.

I still fall on the side of him being the Fox Quicksilver though. Everyone who is saying he’s not and pointing out all the changes seem to miss the point that EVERYONE in the hex has been changed in some way. If Peter was pulled into the hex from his dimension he’d be changed to what Wanda desired.

The one thing that is a constant in the hex though is nobody is just given powers they don’t already have (though it seems people may start getting powers from return trips like Monica). Point being if “Pietro” has super speed, he’d have to have been someone who already had those powers like Peter from the X-Men films.

This is what I keep saying. If Quicksilver is Mephisto or Nightmare, then they would choose to look like Aaron Taylor Johnson not Evan Peters because Wanda doesn't know him. The only option is the one you pointed out, grab someone with the same powers.

[DWeickerSr]

Originally Posted by AnimalCMan

Exactly, they're born with their powers. That makes them mutants. I would think that much is clear. (Granted, they may also just simply not really exist outside the hex)

I was specifically talking about those who entered the hex, since we haven't seen other non-supers entering and abruptly having powers--especially specific ones like Quicksilver.

If someone intended to distract Wanda with her brother (since thinking about his death kept resurfacing the trauma she's desperately trying to hide) they would need a suitable replacement (ie someone who had the same powers).

Except we don't know if "Pietro" entered the hex. He just appeared, like the kids. All three of them could just exist within the hex, so they can possess any quality that can be imagined (by Wanda, or someone/something else).

[CyberpunkCentral]

You know what, I'm starting to really doubt Mephisto or Nightmare have anything to do with this. I think it's just Agnus trying to make Wanda happy is all.

[CrockettTubbs]

Originally Posted by DWeickerSr

Except we don't know if "Pietro" entered the hex. He just appeared, like the kids. All three of them could just exist within the hex, so they can possess any quality that can be imagined (by Wanda, or someone/something else).

Pietro must have entered the hex, cause

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otherwise this scene wouldn't make any sense

[JohnAV]

WandaVision: WHY CAST EVAN PETERS?? Quicksilver Or Not? - YouTube

[JohnAV]

Every time I see the credits I keep thinking of this image first seen on Reddit

[CrockettTubbs]

Can't read, is something important written on the left? I'm too much focused to right part of those pictures.

I think Wanda's playing mind games with me.

Originally Posted by JohnAV

Every time I see the credits I keep thinking of this image first seen on Reddit

[AnimalCMan]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

WandaVision: WHY CAST EVAN PETERS?? Quicksilver Or Not? - YouTube

I think he makes some good points, but misses the elephant in the room.

We already know this show is leading into Spider-Man 3 and Doctor Strange 2 which are both supposedly dealing with the multiverse (the latter literally name drops it in the title).

So I have to ask again, why bait us with another multiverse fake-out if this isn't the Quicksilver from the X-Men movies. Remember, they already pulled a fast one on us with

[Show spoiler]Spider-Man Far From Home revealing that Mysterio wasn't from another universe like he claimed.

So why just do that again here?

[kevin87]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

WandaVision: WHY CAST EVAN PETERS?? Quicksilver Or Not? - YouTube

Originally Posted by AnimalCMan

I think he makes some good points, but misses the elephant in the room.

We already know this show is leading into Spider-Man 3 and Doctor Strange 2 which are both supposedly dealing with the multiverse (the latter literally name drops it in the title).

So I have to ask again, why bait us with another multiverse fake-out if this isn't the Quicksilver from the X-Men movies. Remember, they already pulled a fast one on us with

[Show spoiler]Spider-Man Far From Home revealing that Mysterio wasn't from another universe like he claimed.

So why just do that again here?

People always freak out about Evan Peters when IMO it's clearly always been something just to make people lose their minds, just a red herring. It's not meant to be the FoX-Men version because he didn't say "no my name's Peter" or something and he acts like an ass and not in an endearing way like with Fox... and the stuff like needing to cause tension/trouble/grief is out of character.

Could be a THIRD version of Pietro, possibly one part of the Brotherhood and not X-Men, that Wanda accidentally pulled from another multiverse or somebody else who is messing with her has brought him to screw with her because they can't bring people back from the dead, and maybe the MCU Pietro was the only one who looked like ATJ for whatever reason (maybe because of being twins, maybe because of him not being as old, etc). So, why Evan Peters though? It's just misdirection, he was easy to get because of his Fox affiliation and they knew people would jump to conclusions.

I think at the end of this or the multiverse stuff, X-Men will be introduced in some kind of retroactive continuity event, but I just don't see them bringing in the existing franchise, they'll start over.

[Joey9775]

Originally Posted by CrockettTubbs

Pietro must have entered the hex, cause

[Show spoiler]
otherwise this scene wouldn't make any sense

That's just Wanda's trauma peeking through. Evan Peters Quicksilver was never shot but she's seeing it anyway. She saw Vision as he looked in Infinity War but we know he was in pieces at the SWORD facility.

[Mikezilla3k]

Anyone else thinks this might be why Pietro was asking Wanda about Westview?

[Show spoiler]

[Joey9775]

Originally Posted by Mikezilla3k

Anyone else thinks this might be why Pietro was asking Wanda about Westview?

[Show spoiler]

I can see it, but I think its Strange.

[danman227460]

Strange for me makes the most sense as well.

He has the powers to open dimensions so it wouldn't be far fetch for him to pull Peter from a different universe.

He just couldn't pull the actual Peter Wanda remembers but he is hoping she wouldn't notice.

He tells Peter I have a task for you. Go in and find out as much as you can from Wanda.

I wonder who the scientist is though. Friday can't come fast enough

Originally Posted by Joey9775

I can see it, but I think its Strange.