The Goonies 4K UHD (1985)

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

If there's nothing more in the lowlights or highlights then there's nothing more, but I see plenty more range in the bit with the kids on the road. The sky is still blown out but the speculars on the Tarmac are not and the various branches of the trees are resolved more keenly as well, not clipped away like they are in the SDR, all without overwhelming the average brightness and lowlights of the kids themselves. If the average level is too dark then that's on your tone mapping, not on the source, just like that Films at Home wonk who said it was too dark.

nah it is just the limitations of the way it was filmed
it would never look like that if you were there on scene

But what does "the real eye when you were there" have to do with anything? HDR is a tool like anything else, it's not a guarantee of Ultimate Realism. If I were there I'd have prolly needed sunglasses to be able to resolve the brightness of the background as well as the lowlights on the foreground, but with HDR I don't have to.

yeah but a lot of HDR is done in ways that just look flat out weird and can end up more bothersome than SDR at times
and a lot expand things way beyond what was there in the scene the way it was shot and often they fail to bring up mid-shadows and lower mid-tones, etc. and don't really make proper, ideal use of it (it depends though, some HDR is done very, very well and HDR in general could, theoretically, make things equal or better in every case, to one degree or another be it tiny or large)

[Geoff D]

Some colourists feel the same way, that just bolting highlights onto an SDR-type average brightness isn't what they'd do because of how the perceptual effect can indeed drown out the lows and mids, so they'd rather raise the brightness of the whole scene. But on my TV I'm just not getting that effect of the lower tones being drastically darker than the SDR equivalent disc, there's a smooth transition from lows to mids to highs.

I don't know if anyone's done an actual signal analysis of what the highest peak is but the MaxCLL metadata is pegged at just 343 nits, i.e. it's just not overwhelmingly bright in those bright portions even when next to the MaxFALL (brightest single average frame) of 106 nits, it's barely two 'stops' brighter in the highest peak than the highest average which is what baffles me when people keep saying that the brights are so bright that they overwhelm the mids and lows. That's why I keep wondering if the tone mapping is the difference maker, that if the SDR-esque average brightness is being dropped lower than it should be then it will make those rather modest peaks look much brighter perceptually.

[MazeRunner]

Re-watching this now and younger Josh Brolin is gorgeous.

[Platitude]

Found this for $10 bucks at Walmart, excited to watch it soon.

[jameskg]

Originally Posted by Platitude

Found this for $10 bucks at Walmart, excited to watch it soon.

same

great deal

[Agent Kay]

The underlying master had so much promise.
Damn shame.

[Croweyes1121]

Figured I’d leave a tidbit here that I’m reworking this original teaser trailer for The Goonies into HD. I’m redoing all of the logos and animation by hand in HD. It’s a MASSIVE project that has taken (and will take) forever. But I think it’s going to be worth the effort in the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc2Q...ature=youtu.be

Little taster (audio is a work in progress). I also have the ET portion completed. We’ll see how Close Encounters and Superman turn out. I have no idea how I’m going to tackle those yet…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AQR...ature=youtu.be

[Rob89]

Originally Posted by PowellPressburger

I thought the image quality looked good. I can't fault the film for having a dreary look when that was intended.

Lack of film grain bothered me.


The 5.1 mix is fun, but wish we had the original stereo mix and if any catalog title deserved a ATMOS mix it is this one. The atmospherics are nearly constant on this rainy, stormy, windy, wet film.

Just a head scratcher why WB declined doing an ATMOS mix.

I guess this 4K disc will be reissued many times before they think about adding to it.

I found it quite hard to make out what the kids were saying sometimes on the 5.1 mix on the original Blu-ray, usually it would be drowned out by all the noise, water, rain, wind, ect.

Though given this was an upmix, would listening to the original stereo mix be a better option for clearer dialogue? I might remux it to the 4K version if that's the case.

Also how is the 4K version, is it worth buying over the original? Is the new DTS mix clearer and better than the old Dolby TrueHD?

[PowellPressburger]

Originally Posted by Rob89

I found it quite hard to make out what the kids were saying sometimes on the 5.1 mix on the original Blu-ray, usually it would be drowned out by all the noise, water, rain, wind, ect.

Though given this was an upmix, would listening to the original stereo mix be a better option for clearer dialogue? I might remux it to the 4K version if that's the case.

Also how is the 4K version, is it worth buying over the original? Is the new DTS mix clearer and better than the old Dolby TrueHD?

There are some instances of degrained / DNR waxy images here and there… the audio I thought was fine. As for differences between the old Dolby true HD and DTS HD MA, I’d say they are probably similar.

I don’t regret the 4K just wish we got that original stereo mix

[Agent Kay]

Here and there??

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by PowellPressburger

There are some instances of degrained / DNR waxy images here and there… the audio I thought was fine. As for differences between the old Dolby true HD and DTS HD MA, I’d say they are probably similar.

I don’t regret the 4K just wish we got that original stereo mix

I don't regret it either, but they definitely went overboard with the DNR: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...&postcount=878

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

I don't regret it either, but they definitely went overboard with the DNR: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...&postcount=878

It's shocking

[KubrickKurasawa]

Sean Astin Introduces The Goonies - YouTube

[moparbob]

Awesome video of where they filmed the movie….

https://youtu.be/nRXnGOxZ37c

[Socko]

It's currently $12.99 (Save 48%) on Amazon.com

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by Socko

It's currently $12.99 (Save 48%) on Amazon.com

Still too expensive for this mess

[Socko]

There's people that complain and there's people that will say: "Thank you for letting us know about the price drop"

[Laservampire]

Weirdly enough when I watched this for the first time ever a couple of years back I really enjoyed it.

Now, rewatching on the 4K disc I’m just finding it irritating and it’s certainly not saved by the picture quality.

[Vangeli]

Hold up, folks think the picture quality on this one is bad?

[1924]

Originally Posted by Vangeli

Hold up, folks think the picture quality on this one is bad?

The resolution is great but the movie has been massively degrained. No question about it