Unpopular Movie Opinions: Part III

[AreaFive]

While the Director's Cut of Donnie Darko does have some shortcomings when compared to the Theatrical Cut (some of the soundtrack choices are less effective and the hand-holding intros take a bit of the mystery and ambiguity out of the narrative) it is by no means deserving of the hysterical vitriol it often receives.

While they are both classics, I enjoyed For a Few Dollars More much more than The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly. The narrative is tighter and Lee Van Cleef (and the interaction between he and Clint Eastwood) is in top form. The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly feels a bit bloated in comparison and Van Cleef returning but inexplicably playing a different character in it is distracting at best and a let-down at worst.

[Damon1281]

Originally Posted by AreaFive

While they are both classics, I enjoyed For a Few Dollars More much more than The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly. The narrative is tighter and Lee Van Cleef (and the interaction between he and Clint Eastwood) is in top form. The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly feels a bit bloated in comparison and Van Cleef returning but inexplicably playing a different character in it is distracting at best and a let-down at worst.

That's because the two movies are unrelated.

[AreaFive]

Originally Posted by Damon1281

That's because the two movies are unrelated.

Whether or not they're narratively related is deserving of a thread of its own (the fact that they're referred to (and marketed) as a trilogy certainly doesn't help matters) that would definitely go a long way towards explaining such a seemingly strange casting choice.

I still prefer For a Few Dollars More but all three films are well deserving of their classic status.

[Damon1281]

Originally Posted by AreaFive

Whether or not they're narratively related is deserving of a thread of its own (the fact that they're referred to (and marketed) as a trilogy certainly doesn't help matters) that would definitely go a long way towards explaining such a seemingly strange casting choice.

I still prefer For a Few Dollars More but all three films are well deserving of their classic status.

By an American distributor looking for another angle to sell. Personally, I loved tGtBatU and found the other two lesser but liked all three. Parenthesis inside parenthesis?

[tjritter79]

Originally Posted by AreaFive

...
While they are both classics, I enjoyed For a Few Dollars More much more than The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly. The narrative is tighter and Lee Van Cleef (and the interaction between he and Clint Eastwood) is in top form. The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly feels a bit bloated in comparison and Van Cleef returning but inexplicably playing a different character in it is distracting at best and a let-down at worst.

Not really any different compared to older Universal Horror films, how many roles did Dwight Frye or Lionel Atwill play?
The difference is audiences today typecast LVC as the antagonist to "The Man With No Name" in TG,TB, & TU so much so they forget his previous work or what followed. Without looking it up, how many know he was in "High Noon" or "The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms"?

[AreaFive]

Originally Posted by Damon1281

Parenthesis inside parenthesis?

What can say, I'm a fan

Originally Posted by tjritter79

Not really any different compared to older Universal Horror films, how many roles did Dwight Frye or Lionel Atwill play?
The difference is audiences today typecast LVC as the antagonist to "The Man With No Name" in TG,TB, & TU so much so they forget his previous work or what followed. Without looking it up, how many know he was in "High Noon" or "The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms"?

Good points. While appearing in the Dollars Trilogy certainly resulted in LVC being typecast afterwards, it also revitalized his career (and resulted in him receiving much larger roles than ever before) so he had that as a comfort.

[tjritter79]

Originally Posted by Damon1281

By an American distributor looking for another angle to sell. Personally, I loved tGtBatU and found the other two lesser but liked all three. Parenthesis inside parenthesis?

Likely. The common denominator is Eastwood's character in all three. I would even include "Hang Em High" to that list even though Eastwood plays a different character as well....but he plays "that guy" very eerily close to TMWNN.

[tjritter79]

Originally Posted by AreaFive

...Good points. While appearing in the Dollars Trilogy certainly resulted in LVC being typecast afterwards, it also revitalized his career (and resulted in him receiving much larger roles than ever before) so he had that as a comfort.

Well, consider, an actor gotta eat too! TG, TB, &TU certainly wasn't a big payout in the mid 60's for a secondary character as say Hawkeye would be today? He was the police commissioner in "Escape From New York" as well, how many millennials will recognize him more for THAT role going forward?

Isn't EFNY considered a "cult classic" today?

[AreaFive]

Originally Posted by tjritter79

he plays "that guy" very eerily close to TMWNN.

Very true. Hang Em' High is a great film.

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by Darthvaderrocks

I'm talking sarcastically. I hated those two garbage films, the same way i flat out dislike Russo's "take" on superheroes in the MCU.

I'm not butthurt, but i simply don't agree with double standards and hate. That's it. An opinion can't be wrong or stupid because it's that, an opinion.

I was messing with you chuck.

[Damon1281]

Originally Posted by tjritter79

Likely. The common denominator is Eastwood's character in all three. I would even include "Hang Em High" to that list even though Eastwood plays a different character as well....but he plays "that guy" very eerily close to TMWNN.

Reminds me when I went to dusk to dawn show at the drive-in when I was 12 or so (at least before driving age, my brother was tasked to watch me and dragged me along) and they showed all four back to back.
Even then I figured Hang em High was added just to get us close to dawn.

[Damon1281]

Originally Posted by tjritter79

Not really any different compared to older Universal Horror films, how many roles did Dwight Frye or Lionel Atwill play?
The difference is audiences today typecast LVC as the antagonist to "The Man With No Name" in TG,TB, & TU so much so they forget his previous work or what followed. Without looking it up, how many know he was in "High Noon" or "The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms"?

Kyle Chandler is in Peter Jackson's King Kong and now in Godzilla vs Kong. The way people consider franchises these days, you get the feeling that future actors may have only one role their whole life.

[jess1581]

For Christ's sake...

[kingdoxie]

Anthony Mann and James Stewart made better westerns than John Ford and John Wayne.

[Invid Ninja]

Originally Posted by kingdoxie

Anthony Mann and James Stewart made better westerns than John Ford and John Wayne.

A. Mann's Man Of The West with Gary Cooper is a genuine all-timer western.

[tjritter79]

Originally Posted by kingdoxie

Anthony Mann and James Stewart made better westerns than John Ford and John Wayne.

Generally, I would agree with that (the work of both groups as a whole)...but "The Searchers" to me anyway, just contains so many subplots within the main story...rises above the other work. And I'd also argue that James Stewart's best western was "Shenandoah". An anti-Vietnam film before anti-war was "cool" and anyone who was a teenager in the mid-60's who could appreciate JS's "...but, do you LIKE her?" speech to Doug McClure wishes their father had the same wisdom & understanding while they were growing up. I know I did!

[DR Herbert West]

Return of the Killer Tomatoes! > Ocean's Eleven (2001)

[Gacivory]

Originally Posted by AreaFive

While the Director's Cut of Donnie Darko does have some shortcomings when compared to the Theatrical Cut (some of the soundtrack choices are less effective and the hand-holding intros take a bit of the mystery and ambiguity out of the narrative) it is by no means deserving of the hysterical vitriol it often receives.

While they are both classics, I enjoyed For a Few Dollars More much more than The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly. The narrative is tighter and Lee Van Cleef (and the interaction between he and Clint Eastwood) is in top form. The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly feels a bit bloated in comparison and Van Cleef returning but inexplicably playing a different character in it is distracting at best and a let-down at worst.

I agree! It also helps that I’m a Gian Maria Volonté and he is fantastic!

[Jay H.]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

Return of the Killer Tomatoes! > Ocean's Eleven (2001)

Okay, I'll play:

Parasite (1982) > A Few Good Men

[dallywhitty]

Manos: Hands of Fate > The Revenant.