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Old 12-16-2009, 12:24 PM   #1121
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Even though it makes the most sense there is absolutely zero chance of Notre Dame joining the Big 10, because it doesn't make sense for the school or the conference. The Big 10 wouldn't take Notre Dame unless they got rid of their NBC TV contract. They can't have one of their teams not playing their home games on the Big Ten Network. The NBC contract goes through 2015. Notre Dame would lose a lot of money by giving up that contract not to mention the national exposure they get from being the only team with their own network contract.
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Old 12-16-2009, 02:13 PM   #1122
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Missouri's AD said they would listen if the Big Ten came calling. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if Nebraska would listen too. Tom Osborne was vehemently against the forming of the Big 12 and Nebraska was against a lot of the things Texas was for, and Texas got their way with those things. If the Big 12 is looking to permanently have the championship game in Dallas/Arlington, I would not be surprised to hear Nebraska come up too. The population is small, but Nebraska has a pretty large following all over the country. I could definitely see Nebraska becoming a player in the Big Ten in more than just football. Baseball and volleyball especially. Who wouldn't want to see Nebraska vs. Penn State in volleyball twice a year?
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Old 12-16-2009, 03:41 PM   #1123
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Missouri's AD said they would listen if the Big Ten came calling. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if Nebraska would listen too. Tom Osborne was vehemently against the forming of the Big 12 and Nebraska was against a lot of the things Texas was for, and Texas got their way with those things. If the Big 12 is looking to permanently have the championship game in Dallas/Arlington, I would not be surprised to hear Nebraska come up too. The population is small, but Nebraska has a pretty large following all over the country. I could definitely see Nebraska becoming a player in the Big Ten in more than just football. Baseball and volleyball especially. Who wouldn't want to see Nebraska vs. Penn State in volleyball twice a year?
You ask that last question like Nebraska vs. Texas isn't just as good of a matchup.

The only question I'd have about Nebraska or Missouri leaving the Big 12 is...what's really in it for them? They'd be leaving a high-revenue conference to go to another conference with roughly equivalent revenues. The Big 12 is often ahead of the Big 10 in rankings, so the prestige wouldn't go up by joining the Big 10. And they tend to recruit towards the south rather than compete in the Midwest for recruits, and their southern exposure would go way down making their recruiting harder. Nebraska's nationwide fame has gone down considerably recently and that'd be a heck of a gamble. Considering there's been talk of trying to suck TCU into the Big 12(probably the foundation of the Big 12 dissolve rumors), I think the Big 12 would end up better off while Nebraska or Missouri would end up worse.

I suppose there is some chance that the Big 10 would capitulate to all of Nebraska or Missouri's desires...
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Old 12-16-2009, 05:08 PM   #1124
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The only question I'd have about Nebraska or Missouri leaving the Big 12 is...what's really in it for them? They'd be leaving a high-revenue conference to go to another conference with roughly equivalent revenues.
The Big 12 has a poor revenue sharing agreement in which the schools that play on national television the most get the most revenue. This means Texas and Oklahoma get a larger amount of money compared to the rest of the schools. According to an ESPN article from earlier this year Texas made $10.2 million from television in 2007-2008, while Missouri made $8.4 million. In comparison, the Big 10 distributes television revenue equally to all schools, with each school receiving over $14 million due to their better TV contract.

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_...-sharing-funds
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Old 12-16-2009, 10:49 PM   #1125
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The Big 12 has a poor revenue sharing agreement in which the schools that play on national television the most get the most revenue. This means Texas and Oklahoma get a larger amount of money compared to the rest of the schools. According to an ESPN article from earlier this year Texas made $10.2 million from television in 2007-2008, while Missouri made $8.4 million. In comparison, the Big 10 distributes television revenue equally to all schools, with each school receiving over $14 million due to their better TV contract.

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_...-sharing-funds
The TV revenue sharing deals pales in comparison to the total revenues made by the school for football.

Both Nebraska and Missouri's teams have Texas as their second highest recruiting state behind their home state. That exposure is completely gone if you get out of the Big 12. Where would they turn?

Remember, if you cost yourself prestige/quality, you may gain 3-4 million from a TV contract (~12.8 million this year compared to their 9.1/8.4 currently), but can easily lose that much by losing quality/fanbase.

But you are correct. They'd get a better cut of TV revenue(for football).

This complexity is why I find it unlikely that a high-profile team from a high-profile conference will be the one. Big East teams would have far less risk, with a much clearer upside.
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Old 12-18-2009, 03:59 PM   #1126
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I've read some speculation that the Big 10 might consider adding 3 teams and become a 14 team conference. If this would happen they could have 2 divisions with 7 teams each, so each football team would play the other 6 teams in their division plus 2 teams from the other division.

There hasn't been a lot of love coming from potential candidates about joining the Big 10. Notre Dame has already said they aren't interested. Pittsburgh basketball coach Jamie Dixon has said he doesn't want to leave the Big East, which he considers the best basketball conference. I'm not sure how bad the Big 10 would want Syracuse since their football arena (and team) isn't very good. I've heard rumors of West Virginia, but I don't think they're good enough academically. Rutgers Athletic Director said they are happy in the Big East. The biggest problem with Rutgers is how far away they are from western Big 10 schools. This isn't a problem for revenue sports like football but what about the swimming and tennis teams? That wold make travel expenses much higher. However, adding the New York market could be very profitable for the Big 10. Missouri has already said they would consider joining the Big 10 and fits in well with the current schools. If they wanted to add 3 teams they could also consider Iowa State, Cincinnati, and Boston College.
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Old 12-18-2009, 04:10 PM   #1127
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The TV revenue sharing deals pales in comparison to the total revenues made by the school for football.

Both Nebraska and Missouri's teams have Texas as their second highest recruiting state behind their home state. That exposure is completely gone if you get out of the Big 12. Where would they turn?

Remember, if you cost yourself prestige/quality, you may gain 3-4 million from a TV contract (~12.8 million this year compared to their 9.1/8.4 currently), but can easily lose that much by losing quality/fanbase.

But you are correct. They'd get a better cut of TV revenue(for football).

This complexity is why I find it unlikely that a high-profile team from a high-profile conference will be the one. Big East teams would have far less risk, with a much clearer upside.
When Nebraska was in the Big 8 they recruited Texas pretty well (i.e. Turner Gill). Texas was still in the SWC then, as were the other Texas schools. Nebraska is also getting quite a few recruits from California. I'm sure their exposure there is significantly less than it would be in Texas if they moved to the Big 10.
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Old 12-21-2009, 08:03 PM   #1128
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anyone seen that load of bull in that story of some businessman buying joe mcknight's gf the SUV. nothing against USC personally but i wish the heaviest of punishments on all these cases with these type of violations. reggie bush, oj mayo, now joe mcknight. derrick rose, john calipari in basketball, god i hate these cheaters and rule violators...
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Old 12-25-2009, 08:37 PM   #1129
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Is anyone as glad as I am to see SMU's success last night? I've always felt the NCAA was a bit overly harsh on them Of course what they got dinged for was pretty severe stuff, but there isn't a need for such program crippling punishments. I like what June Jones is doing with them, and I hope he keeps them along on the comeback trail. That freshman quarterback they have has the potential to be a real stud before his days are up in the game of football.
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Old 12-27-2009, 04:47 AM   #1130
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can't believe Urban Meyer is resigning (health reasons). I'm glad he's making a great decision for his family. Word is he'll be taking some role within the AD.

wow..
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Old 12-27-2009, 12:39 PM   #1131
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can't believe Urban Meyer is resigning (health reasons). I'm glad he's making a great decision for his family. Word is he'll be taking some role within the AD.

wow..
Yeah, its crazy! He did more in 5 seasons then most coaches do in a lifetime.
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Old 12-28-2009, 04:25 PM   #1132
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Coach Rich Brooks said there's an 80% chance he won't return to Kentucky next year. I'd be curious what kind of coach Kentucky could get. Kentucky will always be a basketball school and the SEC is always difficult, especially with Auburn, Tennessee, and Mississippi State on the rise.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4775288
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Old 12-28-2009, 09:03 PM   #1133
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Heard on the radio Texas Tech has suspended coach Mike Leach for the bowl game after a complaint that Leach mistreated an injured player.
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Old 12-30-2009, 05:11 PM   #1134
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Texas Tech has now fired Mike Leach. This story is far from over and Leach will definitely be suing the school.
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Old 12-30-2009, 05:18 PM   #1135
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Texas Tech has now fired Mike Leach. This story is far from over and Leach will definitely be suing the school.
The story goes that it was a player that the TEAM DOCTORS THEMSELVES diagnosed as having a mild concussion, so he was not able to participate in practices. The coach made the player stand in a small dark room for two practices in a row, with people watching him to make sure he didn't lean on anything, to punish him for not participating in practice. The complaint was filed after the second day of this. If the allegations are at all true... he deserves to lose his job absolutely. They are starting to take concussions extremely seriously... so I think every coach should take this as a warning to abandon their "just shake it off and play like a man" attitudes.
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Old 12-30-2009, 05:38 PM   #1136
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The James kid is a prick. I hope Leach burns the campus down.

Mediocrity says hi TT.
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Old 12-30-2009, 05:41 PM   #1137
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Leach has a lot of current and former coaches and players willing to go on the record in support of Leach and stating that Leach didn't do anything wrong and the allegations are a mix of lies and exaggerations. They are stating that Adam James is a spoiled, lazy receiver who never put in any effort and who thought because his dad is Craig James (an ESPN analyst and a college football legend) he should get everything handed to him.

Leach was not well-liked by the Texas Tech administration after he interviewed for other jobs last year without notifying administrators and was due an $800,000 bonus if he was still coach on December 31 so a lot of people think they were just trying to make this seem like a bigger deal so they could try and fire him with cause. There will definitely be a lawsuit over this.

http://dennis-dodd.blogs.cbssports.c...70202/19238949
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Old 12-30-2009, 05:50 PM   #1138
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Texas Tech has now fired Mike Leach. This story is far from over and Leach will definitely be suing the school.
If any of it is true, it doesn't matter that the kid was a "slacker" with a "poor work ethic," or that his daddy was like a "little league dad," or that players come out to support Leach. Those are all red herrings.

If Leach indeed put the kid with concussions in a shack without anything to sit down on, he deserved to be fired. Plain and simple. It's indefensible.
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Old 12-30-2009, 05:55 PM   #1139
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If any of it is true, it doesn't matter that the kid was a "slacker" with a "poor work ethic," or that his daddy was like a "little league dad," or that players come out to support Leach. Those are all red herrings.

If Leach indeed put the kid with concussions in a shack without anything to sit down on, he deserved to be fired. Plain and simple. It's indefensible.
The question is whether Leach did do anything wrong though or if this is just a case of an entitled kid who was bitter about his playing time trying to get back at the coach, and an administration that was looking for a reason to dismiss the coach. I'm not saying he's innocent, it's just that we haven't heard anything from Leach himself and virtually everyone outside the James family is on Leach's side. Leach graduated from law school so he knows to keep his mouth shut rather than say something that could incriminate him.
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If any of it is true, it doesn't matter that the kid was a "slacker" with a "poor work ethic," or that his daddy was like a "little league dad," or that players come out to support Leach. Those are all red herrings.

If Leach indeed put the kid with concussions in a shack without anything to sit down on, he deserved to be fired. Plain and simple. It's indefensible.
I'm going to wait to see where this kid was kept, but My radio station said they saw pictures of the rooms and they are very nice.
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