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Old 02-19-2021, 02:12 PM   #1121
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HAHA i almost quoted Lost. Funny. This is the first time i feel exactly like back in 2005-2006 watching that show.

Every episode brings a new character or hints something and the next episode they move on and bring more characters and misteries, so you are WOW LOOK QUICKSILVER, WOW LOOK WANDA IS MANIPULATING EVERYONE, WOW SHE STOLE VISION'S BODY, WOW AGATHA IS BEHIND ALL THIS, it's great, but i don't know if i will be satisfied with only 2 more episodes and they saying WELL, IT'S MAGIC, EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE...

I hope it's a miracle and they make a solid storytelling in the last two episodes to explain Why is the villain doing all this, why is Wanda being controlled, if Vision and her children can exist outside that reality , what happens with the outside world characters, why bring the XMEN version of Pietro, or if it was only a gimmick... etc.
dont count on it. They are starting a new story here so some of it is going to carry over into Strange 2 and beyond. Marvel is in it for the long game so some are going to be disappointed come Ep9.
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Old 02-19-2021, 02:34 PM   #1122
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For those interested, I’ve compiled a list of lingering questions for the last two episodes. Hopefully these all get answered to some degree.

[Show spoiler]1. Was it really JUST Agatha all along? If not, who’s helping her or perhaps guiding or controlling her?
2. Was Peter/Pietro pulled from the multiverse and mind-controlled by Agatha like it showed her do to others like Herb, or was he just something she conjured up?
3. Who was Monica’s contact? Will we see them and do they matter? I’m asking this assuming the army woman wasn’t also an aerospace engineer.
4. Who is the guy Paul Bettany has been teasing? Will this be the true villain behind it all or some other character entirely?
5. Did Wanda in fact start the town? Was she helped by Agatha or did Agatha just show up to mess with things for fun?
6. What is Agatha’s master plan or does she even have one?


If anyone can think of other questions you still have I’d love to hear them.
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Old 02-19-2021, 02:44 PM   #1123
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For those interested, I’ve compiled a list of lingering questions for the last two episodes. Hopefully these all get answered to some degree.

[Show spoiler]1. Was it really JUST Agatha all along? If not, who’s helping her or perhaps guiding or controlling her?
2. Was Peter/Pietro pulled from the multiverse and mind-controlled by Agatha like it showed her do to others like Herb, or was he just something she conjured up?
3. Who was Monica’s contact? Will we see them and do they matter? I’m asking this assuming the army woman wasn’t also an aerospace engineer.
4. Who is the guy Paul Bettany has been teasing? Will this be the true villain behind it all or some other character entirely?
5. Did Wanda in fact start the town? Was she helped by Agatha or did Agatha just show up to mess with things for fun?
6. What is Agatha’s master plan or does she even have one?


If anyone can think of other questions you still have I’d love to hear them.
7. Why did
[Show spoiler]Agatha wait all this time to finally reveal her secret? What is the significance of telling Wanda now as opposed to later on
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8. WHY THE HELL ARE WE STILL RUNNING ON 30 MIN. (Pre-Credits) EPISODES?!
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Old 02-19-2021, 02:53 PM   #1124
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One thing gotta commend this show for - the three most powerful figures on this show are women - Marvel has never told a story a like this before.

This is like a battle of wills between Wanda, Agnes and Monica. And I am here for it. Throw in Dacry too. I think she is an amazing character and Dennings performance is superb.

Actually everyone's performance is very good - as is usual for Marvel.

Vision is kinda almost a mcguffin that everyone's fighting over but the major plot is unfolding between Wanda, Agnes and Monica.
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Old 02-19-2021, 03:14 PM   #1125
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My prediction is that in the final episode they will be just about to talk Wanda down out of her Madness and then the "evil military guy" will launch his secret plan and cause the eventual problem that will be focused on in subsequent movies and TV shows. There is no way they're going to have Wanda be responsible for the horrible events that will be happening going forward.
That way they can have their cake and eat it too. Wanda can start the problem limited just to Westview but the universe spanning calamity is caused by some random cliche evil dude.
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Old 02-19-2021, 03:32 PM   #1126
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I don't think there will be a huge villain reveal like some are expecting. Maybe a tease at best like Thanos in The Avengers/AoU.
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Old 02-19-2021, 03:35 PM   #1127
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That Inverse link claims something different to what you say - that Feige didn't say that, but that the last three episodes would total anything between 2.5 and 3 hours (accounting for rounding), which may or may not include end credits. There's no reason it couldn't be:

- Episode 7: ~1/2 hour
- Episode 8: ~1 hour
- Episode 9: ~1 hour

or any other combination (90 min finale? ).
The show is confirmed to be 6 hours long. We still have 2 hours and 22 minutes left to go with 2 episodes left, and the credits are 8 minutes long. so by doing the math, we should have 2 hours and 6 minutes between episodes 8 and 9 (the other 16 minutes going to credits)
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Old 02-19-2021, 03:35 PM   #1128
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I mean, I hate villain overkill.

We have two villains already right? Hayward out to get Vision and Agnes as the big bad out to get Wanda.

I think that is plenty. I personally don't think another villain is needed.
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Old 02-19-2021, 03:40 PM   #1129
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I don't get the hate for Hayward. He's not exactly wrong.
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Old 02-19-2021, 03:41 PM   #1130
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Oh yeah , Hayward is an awesome villain and well worthy of a top level adversary for the series
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Old 02-19-2021, 03:49 PM   #1131
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Hayward doesn't even seem like a villain whatsoever to me. Not unless you go by the agents saying he's using Vision as a weapon. Have we actually seen the man do that yet? Because his actions and demeanor do no appear dastardly to the audience......yet.

Can he be an a-hole for his attitude thus far? Sure. Many government dudes in power on TV shows tend to be.

As of right now, I only see one villain, with potentially another lurking behind them waiting to be revealed.
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Time to put another character into the mix.

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Chthon_(Earth-616)
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Oh yeah , Hayward is an awesome villain and well worthy of a top level adversary for the series
Hayward isn't the one holding whole town hostage, you know. -_-
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Old 02-19-2021, 04:21 PM   #1134
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Episode 7 is wild.

[Show spoiler]We finally get confirmation that Agnes is Agatha Harkness (called it), we see Monica Rambeau turn into Spectrum and the Modern Family/The Office parody is on point.

Also, I think the fly we see is Mephisto in disguise. He was disguised as one in his first comic book appearance after all.


Bring on the last two episodes!
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Must’ve been fake news then because there were tons of online articles claiming Feige stated the last three episodes to be an hour long.


https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/last...151825063.html

https://www.inverse.com/entertainmen...t-three-length

https://m.republicworld.com/entertai...ails-here.html
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Recently a rumor exploded online that Marvel boss Kevin Feige said that the total running time of WandaVision was six hours. This was debunked by Inverse because it turns out Kevin Feige never said that.
In fact, all 3 do not claim he said that. When you provide a source...make sure it says what you claim it does

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One thing gotta commend this show for - the three most powerful figures on this show are women - Marvel has never told a story a like this before.

This is like a battle of wills between Wanda, Agnes and Monica. And I am here for it. Throw in Dacry too. I think she is an amazing character and Dennings performance is superb.

Actually everyone's performance is very good - as is usual for Marvel.

Vision is kinda almost a mcguffin that everyone's fighting over but the major plot is unfolding between Wanda, Agnes and Monica.
I can just imagine Hayward is in for his worst nightmare with all those characters.
Hayward’s make sure the team is ready, we launch today has me wondering what he is up to or can hope to achieve?
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In the end, Wanda will be completely exonerated of all wrongdoing. Others were either manipulating her mind or the things that they were doing we're so evil that stealing his body and creating this false world were her only possible way to keep her sanity.
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One thing gotta commend this show for - the three most powerful figures on this show are women - Marvel has never told a story a like this before.
And what is awesome about it is that it is organic and natural. It's like the S2 finale of Mandalorian with the all-female led assault on the ship. It just, works when it's not being forced or contrived.


On the episode itself, we also have Dottie in the mix - I'll have to pay attention when I watch again, but there was like one shot of her near the end. She still is in play somehow.

Also, in case anyone doesn't watch the credits...there is a mid-credit sequence...is this the first time they have done it with Wandavision? I am drawing a blank.
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Hayward doesn't even seem like a villain whatsoever to me. Not unless you go by the agents saying he's using Vision as a weapon. Have we actually seen the man do that yet? Because his actions and demeanor do no appear dastardly to the audience......yet.

Can he be an a-hole for his attitude thus far? Sure. Many government dudes in power on TV shows tend to be.

As of right now, I only see one villain, with potentially another lurking behind them waiting to be revealed.
Maybe she really isn’t a villain? Maybe she is just a mentor to Wanda, helping her discover the true magical origins of her mutant power as well as creating the environment to heal her emotionally. The Monica actress said the show had a sad side to it. The last scene made me wonder if that just is Agnes?
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And what is awesome about it is that it is organic and natural. It's like the S2 finale of Mandalorian with the all-female led assault on the ship. It just, works when it's not being forced or contrived.


On the episode itself, we also have Dottie in the mix - I'll have to pay attention when I watch again, but there was like one shot of her near the end. She still is in play somehow.

Also, in case anyone doesn't watch the credits...there is a mid-credit sequence...is this the first time they have done it with Wandavision? I am drawing a blank.
I think Dottie has been sidelined for now. I don't know think she has a major role to play. I think she might just be an innocent Westview bystander at this point. The actor Emma Caufield is not credited in the main credits, I always pay attention to that. So I don't think she will have a big role going forward.

But then again who knows, they already did a major fakeout with Agnes in Ep 6.
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