The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by mzupeman

I'm going to repeat what I said earlier, which is this:

The green tint is there. You may not notice it's there because the entirety of the film has this, and when watching the film from beginning to end, you never notice it because that's how everything looks contextually. It looks natural. Many many movies use colored tints in a similar way, and the green tint gives FOTR a dark foreboding tone that suits it well.

That being said, I don't mind it as long as it was Jackson's intention.

But just because you don't notice it, doesn't mean it isn't there. It is. Period.

Agreed and I think it's an outstanding, film-like transfer, overall. All three movies actually.

[Brightstar]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Agreed and I think it's an outstanding, film-like transfer, overall. All three movies actually.

Just watched FOTR the green tint is not that bad.

[WhySoCereal]

Originally Posted by joliefan

Just watched FOTR the green tint is not that bad.

Agreed, It seemed to be noticeably darker then when I used to watch it, as if the sky was cloudy when it wasn't before. I did not notice this HUGE green tint that the screen shots would imply, I'm sure it's there but on my calibrated TV it's not noticeable. It is darker though, oh well.

[Brightstar]

it was abit dark at the start of FOTR but i was so lost in the film i dident even notice.

[MasterSandman]

Originally Posted by Femmeslover

i know $50 is already a great price for this but does anybody think it will go down to $30 or $40?

I got it for $40 on Boxing Day in Canada..

[retablo]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

I applaud your ability to read only the firs sentence of my post.

I said that I used REAL LIFE NATURAL COLOURS AS COMPARISON TO MY SCREEN DURING VIEWING! The blue skies outside my window right next to my TV proved identical. Likewise with the other colours. Most people (and the internet screenshot comparisons) reference the skies as being an ugly teal colour.

Had I been making my statement strictly on a viewing without any reference other than the presentation, I would agree that it could be going unnoticed due to the effect you mention. But, that just isn't the case.

Considering that the color and shade of blue skies varies throughout the day, I wouldn't call that accurate in the slightest. Same with the color of leaves. And also, the rods and cones in people's eyes vary, making that the least accurate way to judge colors.

[mzupeman]

Originally Posted by WhySoCereal

Agreed, It seemed to be noticeably darker then when I used to watch it, as if the sky was cloudy when it wasn't before. I did not notice this HUGE green tint that the screen shots would imply, I'm sure it's there but on my calibrated TV it's not noticeable. It is darker though, oh well.

That's pretty much how I felt - The effect this had on the film was a darkening in look and tone. There were certain scenes that looked green though and unnaturally dim though, such as the Shire in the beginning, or the snow on the mountaintops. Other than those sequences though, I thought the green tint wasn't very noticeable at all.

Originally Posted by retablo

Considering that the color and shade of blue skies varies throughout the day, I wouldn't call that accurate in the slightest. Same with the color of leaves. And also, the rods and cones in people's eyes vary, making that the least accurate way to judge colors.

I was going to suggest perhaps a color blindless, but I think that would have been more of a straw man argument. There's many things that screen shots are not able to indicate as clearly as if a film was in motion, most notably being the grain structure, use of DNR, etc. But color scheme and saturation are not among that list, as the colors are accurately represented in a screen shot.

[Brightstar]

the snow was blue rather then white its abit dark in some places but it dosent bother me

[Darkthrone]

Originally Posted by atexp80

This one also highlights the often discussed tint by comparing Theatrical and Extended BDs:

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...he_rings_1_bd1

As you can see the Blu-ray offers an obvious resolution increase, the theatrical BD has DNR applied and the extended BD has had an overall tint applied which is not present on TTT or ROTK (or The Hobbit trailer).

The first picture, the EE has more detail in the picture. The TE seems to be a little too bright and a tad blurry.
On THIS picture the TE seems to be better.
Overall I like the pq of the EE better.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Darkthrone

The first picture, the EE has more detail in the picture. The TE seems to be a little too bright and a tad blurry.
On THIS picture the TE seems to be better.
Overall I like the pq of the EE better.

Take a look at THIS one. The EE looks much better than the TE.

[frogmort]

I think this can get very confusing as to what's what, because of so many different variables:

The TE BD transfer's DNR(waxy smoothness)
The 2K remaster for the EE BD(much clearer, cleaner, detailed, an sharp)
The scene specific re-color timing done for the EE BD (such as the mountain pass shot, The Council of Elrond, and Lothlorien for example)
The overlying tint/contrast change on FotR(only)

Plus the variables on our end:

TV calibration(or lack thereof)
Familiarity with how it's "supposed"(or used) to look
Difference in perception, or eye quality
Ability for you eyes to adjust the whitest parts of the image you're seeing to become "reference" whites.
Some people actually like the new teal look that a lot of movies have these days(others do not)

[Mavrick]

It's much simpler. Those who see the tint are more aware that they are infact in the Matrix.

[Agent Bond]

TV calibration(or lack thereof)

This is probably the biggest offender. Like others have stated, I didn't notice the green tint.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Mavrick

It's much simpler. Those who see the tint are more aware that they are infact in the Matrix.

Except that The Matrix trilogy green is more noticeable. What's even more mind boggling is that the original film had a blue tint in the theater and on home video, but when Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions were released the Wachowskis added the green tint to it.

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Originally Posted by Agent Bond

This is probably the biggest offender. Like others have stated, I didn't notice the green tint.

The better calibrated your set is, the easier it is to notice color anomalies... not the other way around.
Those most likely/able to notice an overbearing color bias not present in any previous presentation of a film are those whose sets reliably reproduce faithful a color grading to begin with. If your set is always "off" it's nearly impossible to tell when a film you're watching on it is.

I definitely noticed and was irritated by the color timing change in the EE Fellowship BD. Same with the crushed blacks.

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Except that The Matrix trilogy green is more noticeable. What's even more mind boggling is that the original film had a blue tint in the theater and on home video, but when Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions were released the Wachowskis added the green tint to it.

Totally - to an exponentially crazier degree than the color grading shift in Fellowship (even though Fellowship's bothers me too - but not nearly as much when watching.) The change to the original Matrix's color timing when they're in the Matrix is so brutal and grating I can barely stand to watch the original anymore and usually prefer to watch the original DVD despite the enormous resolution difference. It's a damn good thing they altered the original to more closely match the following two (which I don't care for at all to begin with.) It's a shame.... because I love the original. It was perfect as it was.

[El_Jay]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

The better calibrated your set is, the easier it is to notice color anomalies... not the other way around.
Those most likely/able to notice an overbearing color bias not present in any previous presentation of a film are those whose sets reliably reproduce faithful a color grading to begin with. If your set is always "off" it's nearly impossible to tell when a film you're watching on it is.

I definitely noticed and was irritated by the color timing change in the EE Fellowship BD. Same with the crushed blacks.



Totally - to an exponentially crazier degree than the color grading shift in Fellowship (even though Fellowship's bothers me too - but not nearly as much when watching.) The change to the original Matrix's color timing when they're in the Matrix is so brutal and grating I can barely stand to watch the original anymore and usually prefer to watch the original DVD despite the enormous resolution difference. It's a damn good thing they altered the original to more closely match the following two (which I don't care for at all to begin with.) It's a shame.... because I love the original. It was perfect as it was.

Hey Stinky!

Feeling the same sense of de ja vu as I am?

Can't believe we came full circle to "there is no green tint on MY version", and "properly calibrated TV" this many months later.

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Originally Posted by El_Jay

Hey Stinky!

Feeling the same sense of de ja vu as I am?

I'm not because the first time around Frogmort was too busy sniffing his computer chair to participate in the debate but this time there's so much Frogmort I can barely move for Frogmort.

[El_Jay]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

I'm not because the first time around Frogmort was too busy sniffing his computer chair to participate in the debate but this time there's so much Frogmort I can barely move for Frogmort.

Did someone say... Frogmort?!

[frogmort]

Originally Posted by Roy Batty

There is no spoon...

My spoon is too big - YouTube

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Originally Posted by El_Jay

Did someone say... Frogmort?!