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Old 12-30-2022, 11:46 AM   #1141
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I prefer the extended cut. I think the special effects hold up really well, with the exception of the stampede scene. That had to have been rushed to meet a deadline or something. If they ever were to do a 4k remaster, I wouldn't mind if they finished that scene or something.
I think it was just logistically goofy, the blocking was just weird. Having the humans running around with the stampeding dinosaurs was just a tough ask. It might have been better if they'd just observed the action.
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Old 12-30-2022, 11:48 AM   #1142
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I prefer the extended cut. I think the special effects hold up really well, with the exception of the stampede scene. That had to have been rushed to meet a deadline or something. If they ever were to do a 4k remaster, I wouldn't mind if they finished that scene or something.
I agree. Though age has nothing to do with the stampede scene -- it should've never been included in the state it was in.

I generally don't like extended cuts because I've found them to become needlessly bloated with disastrous pacing. But the extended cuts of LotR and King Kong are exceptions and they're my preferred versions. That's not a knock on the theatrical cuts, but I never go back to them.
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Old 12-30-2022, 03:28 PM   #1143
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I agree. Though age has nothing to do with the stampede scene -- it should've never been included in the state it was in.
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I generally don't like extended cuts because I've found them to become needlessly bloated with disastrous pacing. But the extended cuts of LotR and King Kong are exceptions and they're my preferred versions. That's not a knock on the theatrical cuts, but I never go back to them.
Yeah, it looked awful in 2005.

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The 4k really helped the look of the stampede scene. So much so it went from being incredibly atrocious to simply awful
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poor Kong..if only someone would do a remake where he goes back to Skull island with Anne and they both live happily ever after...
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poor Kong..if only someone would do a remake where he goes back to Skull island with Anne and they both live happily ever after...
You know....he did have a son so he kept busy at least
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Old 12-30-2022, 11:00 PM   #1147
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I’ve tried so hard to love this movie. I was raised on 70’s Kong and absolutely love the original. There is just something off with this one. The pacing, the redic islanders, the bug scene that goes too long and crosses the line of squirmyness. Finally it’s the excessive anthropomorphising of Kong and making me sob at the end that is my limit.

It is just all too much. Like a rich cake you regret eating.

I get what people love about it and I am glad you do. But its a total bloated, tonal mess for me.
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Old 12-30-2022, 11:56 PM   #1148
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I loved seeing this film in the theater and got it day one on DVD. Didn't realize Jackson was putting out an extended version on DVD, so I was miffed that I didn't wait. When I got the UHD I was excited that I finally got to experience the extended cut! I gotta say though, I think I preferred the theatrical cut. I was excited to see a lot more creatures added to Skull Island, but the extra scenes to me dampen the pacing of the film. Also, the extended scene with Jack Black having his little action moment with the sea creature ruined the epicness of when he fights off the bugs later in the film.
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Old 12-31-2022, 06:54 PM   #1149
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I'm primarily a movie person versus a TV person, but with some of these super-long movies I'm curious about how a miniseries edit would work (or not) for some people - especially since there are people for whom a 3+ hour runtime is problematic right from the onset.

Tarantino/Netflix of course did it with The Hateful Eight (although that movie literally is structured with chapters so it's easier than most). Granted, even doing it as some king of Peacock exclusive probably wouldn't gain a ton of interest, but purely from a creative perspective I'm intrigued.

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Watched this last month, have not seen it since it came out back in 2005. The CGI effects have aged somewhat(Looking at you Kong) but it was great to watch it again. I know this is unrelated but did anyone else play the official video game adaptation for this movie? Now that was a blast!
It'll never happen but a modern 4K remake of the game, even available only digitally, on Windows and major consoles, would be amazing.

Frankly, they could even make a new Kong game as a kind of sequel to this game/movie or such, to help build out the Kong franchise in a way that isn't Son of Kong/King Kong Lives.

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I’m still dubious about the whole “modern movies suck!” thing. I get being sick of Marvel Studios, and there is something to be said about the state of theaters right now versus home viewing habits. But… I think it’s all nostalgic tricks, where you just remember the classics and forget everything else. Watch old Siskel and Ebert episodes on YouTube: there was a TON of garbage movies coming out constantly. I grew up in the 90s and I’d say the late 90s disaster/Roland Emmerich era was a way worse period for movies, where something like Lost in Space with Joey from Friends was the big summer movie coming out.
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I’ve tried so hard to love this movie. I was raised on 70’s Kong and absolutely love the original. There is just something off with this one. The pacing, the redic islanders, the bug scene that goes too long and crosses the line of squirmyness. Finally it’s the excessive anthropomorphising of Kong and making me sob at the end that is my limit.

It is just all too much. Like a rich cake you regret eating.

I get what people love about it and I am glad you do. But its a total bloated, tonal mess for me.
Could you expand on the tone piece? No one has to like the tone obviously, but I found the movie's tone pretty consistent throughout, but perhaps I am misunderstanding your point.
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I’ve tried so hard to love this movie. I was raised on 70’s Kong and absolutely love the original. There is just something off with this one. The pacing, the redic islanders, the bug scene that goes too long and crosses the line of squirmyness. Finally it’s the excessive anthropomorphising of Kong and making me sob at the end that is my limit.

It is just all too much. Like a rich cake you regret eating.

I get what people love about it and I am glad you do. But its a total bloated, tonal mess for me.

kinda like three Hobbit movies from the one small book....
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kinda like three Hobbit movies from the one small book....
To me the first two Hobbit movies hold up, but the third one is excruciatingly long to sit through. They should have stuck to their original plan of two films.
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To me the first two Hobbit movies hold up, but the third one is excruciatingly long to sit through. They should have stuck to their original plan of two films.
You might like the four hour Hobbit fanedit
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Old 01-02-2023, 09:58 AM   #1153
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To me the first two Hobbit movies hold up, but the third one is excruciatingly long to sit through. They should have stuck to their original plan of two films.
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You might like the four hour Hobbit fanedit
Or this one.
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Old 01-02-2023, 07:07 PM   #1154
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poor Kong..if only someone would do a remake where he goes back to Skull island with Anne and they both live happily ever after...
The ps2 game had a secret ending where they brought kong back to skull island
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That's 6.5 hours long, right? I thought the 4h20m version was almost too long
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I'm primarily a movie person versus a TV person, but with some of these super-long movies I'm curious about how a miniseries edit would work (or not) for some people - especially since there are people for whom a 3+ hour runtime is problematic right from the onset.

Tarantino/Netflix of course did it with The Hateful Eight (although that movie literally is structured with chapters so it's easier than most). Granted, even doing it as some king of Peacock exclusive probably wouldn't gain a ton of interest, but purely from a creative perspective I'm intrigued.



It'll never happen but a modern 4K remake of the game, even available only digitally, on Windows and major consoles, would be amazing.

Frankly, they could even make a new Kong game as a kind of sequel to this game/movie or such, to help build out the Kong franchise in a way that isn't Son of Kong/King Kong Lives.



You don't understand! In my day things were better!



Could you expand on the tone piece? No one has to like the tone obviously, but I found the movie's tone pretty consistent throughout, but perhaps I am misunderstanding your point.
It starts off as a depression era drama, dabbles in romance, swings into a horror movie when they meet the islanders, then becomes an action dinosaur romp, back to a stomach churning horror with the bugs, more monster romp action before diving into a tear jerking heart breaking ending. It is fun, dark, depressing, thrilling, horrifying and terribly sad.

I struggle with really long movies. Having just sat through 3.5hrs of Avatar 2 I would have probably enjoyed it more in three sittings. The movie has three clear “chapters” so would have been a good fit. I don’t think I will see anymore Avatar movies in the cinema if they are all going to be that long.
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There's also Wraith's 2 film edit: https://ifdb.fanedit.org/hobbit-part...or-erebor-the/

As well as M4's edit: https://ifdb.fanedit.org/m4s-the-hobbit-book-edit/
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That's 6.5 hours long, right? I thought the 4h20m version was almost too long
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Well, he said they should have stuck to the two film plan, and the one I linked claims to recreate that, so that's why I linked that version.
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It starts off as a depression era drama, dabbles in romance, swings into a horror movie when they meet the islanders, then becomes an action dinosaur romp, back to a stomach churning horror with the bugs, more monster romp action before diving into a tear jerking heart breaking ending. It is fun, dark, depressing, thrilling, horrifying and terribly sad.

I struggle with really long movies. Having just sat through 3.5hrs of Avatar 2 I would have probably enjoyed it more in three sittings. The movie has three clear “chapters” so would have been a good fit. I don’t think I will see anymore Avatar movies in the cinema if they are all going to be that long.
I see. To me (and it's just my perspective), some of those things you described are scenes and subplots, not necessarily the tone of the movie. There isn't action prior to arriving on Skull Island because it's setting up the characters in the same way Titanic isn't a disaster movie prior to the iceberg. Scenes with creatures are more scenes rather than tone, because the overall tone is that of an action-adventure movie set in an almost otherworldly location, so you're supposed to have a sense of fear or dread in seeing anything from the bugs to the swamp fish thing to the V-Rex, etc. There's a very sub-plotty subplot of romantic interest between Ann and Jack, but it's never a major piece of the film, just as it isn't in many James Bond or numerous other major action/adventure films. Relatively early on, the movie takes a sympathetic view towards Kong, making its ending aligned with how the film had approached Kong for much of the film (such as Kong trying to "save" Ann on the beach previously).

Regardless, if 3+ hour movies aren't your thing, this was always gonna be an uphill battle.
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I just got this 4k. I'm looking forward to watching it again.

It's not one I saw in the theater, so this is probably the best it'll look for me.
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