The Official Arrow Video Thread

[ijustblumyself]

I'm natively region B, but region free. Still quite skeptical of this; I think Arrow have their hearts in the right place but it might alienate more customers than it does bring in new ones.

[Blu MacReady]

Originally Posted by josuv22

I wander how the US folks would feel if shout and Criterion announced that from now on if the cant release the movie in the UK the US release would not be on the cards

Thing is, most of the films they release are American films. Why shouldn't they be available on their own home video market? So I guess they'd be pretty annoyed.
There are plenty of US films I love I've had to import either DVD or now blu. Fact is there is a cheap simple answer.

[Pizzamorg]

Originally Posted by Blu MacReady

Thing is, most of the films they release are American films. Why shouldn't they be available on their own home video market? So I guess they'd be pretty annoyed.
There are plenty of US films I love I've had to import either DVD or now blu. Fact is there is a cheap simple answer.

Well welcome to being a Region B only watcher! It's amazing how many English titles only get released in Region A locked releases.

[Davy]

They've got a monopoly here in terms of monthly high quality cult releases but, come on, Scream Factory have that market sewn up Stateside. What they don't have, BU do. Seems to be Arrow overreaching.

[EddieLarkin]

Originally Posted by Davy

They've got a monopoly here in terms of monthly high quality cult releases but, come on, Scream Factory have that market sewn up Stateside. What they don't have, BU do. Seems to be Arrow overreaching.

I don't think either would have done Withnail and I, Immoral Tales, Day of Anger, Time Bandits, Remo Williams, The Delta Force, Runaway Train, Stray Cat Rock or Pit Stop. They are horror labels, Arrow Video is cult, and they have very little crossover.

[BAKA]

Originally Posted by Ste7en

SymbioticFunction's quick list should be enough to have anyone worried about what could happen.

It's a nonsense list though, as good as scaremongering. Arrow got to the post first on several occasions with titles in that list, so could theoretically have put out US releases on some of those titles, if this move had happened earlier. I genuinely think that list is beyond worst possible scenario, but none of us can know for sure, besides Arrow, who themselves made the decision.

Originally Posted by Davy

They've got a monopoly here in terms of monthly high quality cult releases but, come on, Scream Factory have that market sewn up Stateside. What they don't have, BU do. Seems to be Arrow overreaching.

I don't think that's true in the slightest. There's been a lot of negativity with regards to Scream Factory's technical capabilities. Not to mention, discounting the likes of Synapse, Grindhouse Releasing and many other smaller labels putting out stellar stuff at a lesser rate in quantity, but with a higher quality.

It's going to be a crowded and tough market. But Arrow have smartly commented that they'll be going back to their roots looking to license more Euro horror. The Euro horror market in the US is less crowded, and there's a lot of disgruntled fans, due to those (Raro and BU) relying on substandard Italian masters. With Arrow looking to remaster these themselves directly, this puts them at an advantage.

[Impossible]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Sullivan's Travels now available to order in the 3 4 17 sold by Amazon, the link is on left of the page.

It's out of stock, but it goes through on the deal.

[BAKA]

Just as an aside, the campaign seems to have done much better overnight. Five people have snapped up that $2,500 Gold tier with all releases for 10 years. It's standing at 16% now. I'm curious what the other 2 unannounced titles will be.

I think they missed a trick not snapping up US rights to The 'Burbs, there seems to be a lot of demand for that. Unless they have, and that's one of the surprise titles, they're saving to bolster the campaign? I'm half expecting SF to announce it this month (although I do recall a comment about SF not licensing anything from Universal for the foreseeable; but they've misled before). Their announcements so far seem to be getting a lukewarm reaction. I realise they're probably saving the best for last, but it'd be interesting if Arrow have already been making plays for some licenses prior to this announcement, which could potentially have impacted SF's slate. If I had to choose between the two, as a licensor, I know who I'd pick, if one company are offering complete restorations on their own budget, regardless of an existing US presence or not.

[SymbioticFunction]

Originally Posted by fuzzymctiger

That big list is rendered useless but the fact that a large amount of them had the Arrow release before a US Release. 18 on that list alone could have been both region, due to either prior straight studio release or no prior release to Arrow.

Assuming that they could initially afford both US & UK rights for the more famous genre titles. I'm not sure how much money Arrow have at their disposal but the way they're raising money for their US venture through indiegogo doesn't raise too much confidence in the financial strength of the company.

[crazyman]

Originally Posted by SymbioticFunction

They won't release any of those JC films since they won't own the US rights. This is really bad news for UK consumers - especially those who only own region b players. Many one-time potential Arrow titles will now never arrive.

Stop talking bs.

[crazyman]

Originally Posted by Pizzamorg

Wider market with a smaller release pool PLUS having to also juggle this new business from the ground up too surely will mean a decline in money, not financial growth. The more I ponder this the more I question what Arrow's motivations are here and if they really thought them through.

If only Arrow had consulted you for your superior business expertise before jumping head first into this venture without giving it any thought!

[EddieLarkin]

Originally Posted by SymbioticFunction

Assuming that they could initially afford both US & UK rights for the more famous genre titles. I'm not sure how much money Arrow have at their disposal but the way they're raising money for their US venture through indiegogo doesn't raise too much confidence in the financial strength of the company.

This venture is not dependent on the crowdfunding, it's not like they're trying to raise the $100,000 so they can pay for some flights over there.

"The goal doesn't scratch the surface of the real funding needed. The goal we've set would barely fund the releases we've already planned. The point of it isn't simply the funding itself but also for people to show they're behind the idea, to help spread the word. See the 'Why the need for Indiegogo' section on the page and this will show why we're doing the funding."

If $100,000 barely scratches the surface of what this is costing then clearly Arrow have plenty of financial backing already. The whole point of this is so they have a bigger market to justify the bigger titles.

[Blu MacReady]

Originally Posted by Impossible

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Sullivan's Travels now available to order in the 3 4 17 sold by Amazon, the link is on left of the page.

It's out of stock, but it goes through on the deal.

Been in since day one. Mostly all Arrow titles. Had Time Bandits SB, but now no longer in the deal? Glad I got in on this day one

[Pizzamorg]

Originally Posted by crazyman

If only Arrow had consulted you for your superior business expertise before jumping head first into this venture without giving it any thought!

Thanks for your great addition to the discussion.

[Blu MacReady]

Originally Posted by EddieLarkin

I don't think either would have done Withnail and I, Immoral Tales, Day of Anger, Time Bandits, Remo Williams, The Delta Force, Runaway Train, Stray Cat Rock or Pit Stop. They are horror labels, Arrow Video is cult, and they have very little crossover.

Scream have changed their path, announcing many non horror titles, comedy, sci fi, action. Even before this announcement, Escape from NY....horror?
Still, horror is prime focus but they're not a 'horror label' only company.

I have Cohen and Tate from Shout!, that's more thriller/action and it's the same place. I guess like Arrow Video, Arrow Academy.

Don't just think about the horror titles. Think EFNY and a They Live! are about as cult as you get.

[OgamiittoMcJ]

Originally Posted by BAKA

Just as an aside, the campaign seems to have done much better overnight. Five people have snapped up that $2,500 Gold tier with all releases for 10 years. It's standing at 16% now. I'm curious what the other 2 unannounced titles will be.

just worked out some prices for Gold Tier
if 2 releases a month cost would be $10.42 per Title
if 3 released cost $6.94 each
if 4 released cost $5.21 each
if 5 released cost $4.17 each
so great value if you can have $2500 available before 2nd December

[Blu MacReady]

Originally Posted by OgamiittoMcJ

just worked out some prices for Gold Tier
if 2 releases a month cost would be $10.42 per Title
if 3 released cost $6.94 each
if 4 released cost $5.21 each
if 5 released cost $4.17 each
so great value if you can have $2500 available before 2nd December

Is that confirmed as blu ray titles? Just interested about the wording, cause 10 yrs is a long time, time enough for another format.....

[Modman]

I wonder if Sullivan's Travels being shifted through Amazon's 3 for £17 promotion, will have any impact on Arrow's consideration of whether they will release a Preston Sturges Boxset?

[EddieLarkin]

Originally Posted by OgamiittoMcJ

just worked out some prices for Gold Tier
if 2 releases a month cost would be $10.42 per Title
if 3 released cost $6.94 each
if 4 released cost $5.21 each
if 5 released cost $4.17 each
so great value if you can have $2500 available before 2nd December

Why not 6 titles, or 7 or 8? That's potentially how many Arrow said they'd be releasing each month if the campaign is a success, and since you'll only have to give the $2,500 if it is a success, well... It's a amazing deal that's for sure!

[OgamiittoMcJ]

Originally Posted by Blu MacReady

Is that confirmed as blu ray titles? Just interested about the wording, cause 10 yrs is a long time, time enough for another format.....

yeh was thinking that, will Blu-ray and Earth still exsist in 10 years ?
seperate releases are $25 each so it's quite a saving

if they release 4 a month it would cost $100 x12=$1200 a year
so with Gold Tier, You are getting around 7-8 years of future releases for free
provided you stay alive in the next 2-3 years to get money back

also 4 releases a month would mean you could have 480 Arrow titles in 10 years time, which doesn't seem realistic