Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Picture in picture could be resized this can’t. It’s locked at -1 inch lol.

So what?

What's a greater offense against 'engaging with the content properly'? A 1 inch window on a phone at arms length or any sized pip window on a 19 inch screen from across the room?

And as for locked at 1 inch...can't you just tap it to bring back the standard interface?

I would experiment myself but I only see the miniplayer icon on my desktop system. I can't find it on my phone using chrome or the youtube app.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by octagon

So what?

What's a greater offense against 'engaging with the content properly'? A 1 inch window on a phone at arms length or any sized pip window on a 19 inch screen from across the room?

And as for locked at 1 inch...can't you just tap it to bring back the standard interface?

I would experiment myself but I only see the miniplayer icon on my desktop system. I can't find it on my phone using chrome or the youtube app.

Yep, tapping it makes it full size again and whatever page/search you were on stays the same. On the iOS version there's an arrow on the top left hand side of the video to drop the video down. I dunno if Android or other devices have that yet.

[octagon]

Now this is locked at an inch. It's a wonder these things didn't take over the world.

[Vilya]

Just another installment of much ado about nothing.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by octagon

Now this is locked at an inch. It's a wonder these things didn't take over the world.

[Show spoiler]

If they release a 16 x 9 edition, watch out!

[Steedeel]

Take the piss all you like, time will tell.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Take the piss all you like, time will tell.

It already has.

Movies are 130 years-old and are going strong.

Commercial television is 77 years-old and going strong.

Both have experienced more changes than anyone could have imagined and here they still are and they continue to experience growth.

Produce some evidence to support even one of your wack predictions and I will stop laughing long enough to consider it. Until then...

I have always preferred Rod Serling's The Twilight Zone to yours. The original was infinitely more plausible, but yours is certainly funnier.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Take the piss all you like,...

We're just marking your words.

[flyry]

Steedeel will henceforth be known as Falsestradamus

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by flyry

Steedeel will henceforth be known as Falsestradamus

No he won’t. That’s against forum rules. Consistently using terms to mock someone’s beliefs or opinions.

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

No he won’t. That’s against forum rules. Consistently using terms to mock someone’s beliefs or opinions.

[Wendell R. Breland]

I’ve been waiting to see if anyone from the convenience crowd mentioned Amazon Echo or Google Home and don’t recall anyone saying they use such. So I will ask, anyone using voice automation with their TV, media room, home automation or sound system? If you do use voice automation, how are you using it?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

Not at all, I’m just saying I won’t put up with it, Simple.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

I’ve been waiting to see if anyone from the convenience crowd mentioned Amazon Echo or Google Home and don’t recall anyone saying they use such. So I will ask, anyone using voice automation with their TV, media room, home automation or sound system? If you do use voice automation, how are you using it?

I haven't tried voice activated tech toys. My life is already cream puff convenient as it is despite the arduous necessity of loading discs into my player when I want to watch something. If I had it any easier, I might just turn into a gelatinous blob.

There's a little of my own paranoia to overcome as well. I feel like having voice activated devices is equivalent to me bugging my own home. I seem to remember that there were instances where Samsung voice activated TV remotes uploaded things it had overheard to Samsung's servers that had zero to do with TV operation. Also, there was a recent news item where Amazon Alexa eavesdropped on a couple's private conversation and sent a recording of it to a friend in the couple's contact list. I have trust issues with these devices. Do I need therapy?

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0fdb2aa51b23e

And then there's the random creepy laughter from Amazon's Alexa:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/...out/404476002/

I really a need a possessed device in my home.

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Not at all, I’m just saying I won’t put up with it, Simple.

Well, it's one thing to not mock reasonable beliefs / opinions.


But when those beliefs are about as reasonable as believing that Smurfs exist and they are out to kill you, at some point any semblance of logic has flown right out the window.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

Well, it's one thing to not mock reasonable beliefs / opinions.


But when those beliefs are about as reasonable as believing that Smurfs exist and they are out to kill you, at some point any semblance of logic has flown right out the window.

I find this to be more believable than much of what I have read here lately. I wouldn't put it past a Smurf to harbor murderous intent behind that fake grin of theirs.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

Well, it's one thing to not mock reasonable beliefs / opinions.


But when those beliefs are about as reasonable as believing that Smurfs exist and they are out to kill you, at some point any semblance of logic has flown right out the window.

People can have what others consider outrageous or unusual claims or opinions without receiving derogatory names. But go with it, let’s see what happens if you guys want to go that route.

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I haven't tried voice activated tech toys. My life is already cream puff convenient as it is despite the arduous necessity of loading discs into my player when I want to watch something. If I had it any easier, I might just turn into a gelatinous blob.

There's a little of my own paranoia to overcome as well. I feel like having voice activated devices is equivalent to me bugging my own home. I seem to remember that there were instances where Samsung voice activated TV remotes uploaded things it had overheard to Samsung's servers that had zero to do with TV operation. Also, there was a recent news item where Amazon Alexa eavesdropped on a couple's private conversation and sent a recording of it to a friend in the couple's contact list. I have trust issues with these devices. Do I need therapy?

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0fdb2aa51b23e

And then there's the random creepy laughter from Amazon's Alexa:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/...out/404476002/

I really a need a possessed device in my home.

I agree on the privacy concerns. And as there are actual documented examples of those sorts of problems happening, it is reasonable to want to avoid them.

In addition to privacy concerns, in general, with what limited experience I've had with voice operated tech, it just isn't as efficient as pushing a button.

A couple of years ago, when our cable box/DVR was acting up (I have Comcast), I went to swap it out. I had upgraded to their X1 box (which came at no additional charge, it was just an option at that point), which had additional features, including being able to record more shows at the same time than our previous box.

One feature that it has for searching for on demand content, etc. is a remote where you push a button and can say the name of a show or movie, and if it "hears" you correctly and that content is available, it will bring it up and whatever viewing options there are.

I use it sparingly. Every once in a while I'll try it as opposed to navigating the menus (more on the menus shortly) to find something. My wife and I will laugh when it mishears us (whatever it thinks one of us said will be written on the screen). It's just not effective.

The only reason why I sometimes try it is because, while not impossible to navigate, IMO the menu system on this box (which is different than our old one) is not quite as user friendly to manually navigate as our previous box. It feels more like a Netflix app through a smart TV or game console, with random recommendations, etc. You can navigate through networks, channels, etc., but it feels like it takes a few more steps to get there, and isn't quite as intuitive as the menu from the previous box.

That's one of the things that annoys me about a lot of voice activated tech is that in order to get people to use it, they seem to purposely make the manual alternatives more cumbersome to navigate than is necessary. I recall that being a complaint with the Xbox One when it first came out and the inclusion of Kinect was a default standard with the system (it since went from no being a required inclusion to being flat out discontinued), and they were pushing the voice command aspect of it.

When a menu system is logically laid out and reasonably intuitive to navigate, it's just far, far better than even the best current voice-based tech that currently exists.

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

People can have what others consider outrageous or unusual claims or opinions without receiving derogatory names. But go with it, let’s see what happens if you guys want to go that route.

I don't necessarily personally want to go that route, but for anyone who does, what I foresee happening is a whole lot of nothing, just as would have likely been the case if you had reported things in the past that you stated you never did (but apparently considered).

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

I don't necessarily personally want to go that route, but for anyone who does, what I foresee happening is a whole lot of nothing, just as would have likely been the case if you had reported things in the past that you stated you never did (but apparently considered).

Personal insults and derogatory terms used consistently over a period of time would be unacceptable. But again, if anyone is going that route......