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Old 01-03-2011, 12:09 AM   #1
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Let's boost up Blu-ray sales. Blu-ray is starting to go up in sales while dvd is declining, it is far from being the standard. It only has I would guess a 20% market share. Not sure, just know that last year(or 2009) the market share for blu-ray was 13%


In order to help Blu-ray, I'll pick 4 days this year.
On February 16, June 25th, September 19, and November 11th, go to your local store and pick up 5 Blu-rays on each of these days. Also, you must vow to not buy a single dvd in 2011 no matter how cheap or discernable the blu-ray version is from the dvd.

This may seem like a foolish, futile attempt at helping blu-ray, but dependind on how many people we get, it could make a real difference and cause a dent in dvd since none of us will buy any. Let's just say that 250 people agree to this. 5 x 250=1,250 x 4 days=5,000 extra blu-ray units sold. That's not taking into account that Blu-ray sales increase annualy even without this and that 0 dvd's will be bought.

We should try.
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Old 01-03-2011, 12:15 AM   #2
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I'm sure you mean well, but it's a silly idea that won't have any effect.

Plus getting people to all buy on the same day is a big issue as well, just let people buy what they want. Blu-Ray is growing just fine by itself and will only get bigger in the future.
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Old 01-03-2011, 12:39 AM   #3
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I'm sure you mean well, but it's a silly idea that won't have any effect.

Plus getting people to all buy on the same day is a big issue as well, just let people buy what they want. Blu-Ray is growing just fine by itself and will only get bigger in the future.

I'm just sick and tired of ignorant ****s that think there is no point in Blu-ray, and at this point, deserves a far bigger market share.I don't want dvd to be like vhs. vhs's were not dead(as in no more vhs release) until 2006. That's a full 9 years into dvd's lifespan and the year that hd-dvd and blu-ray were introduced. The idea of dvd still going until 2015 is disheartening.
We all know that dvd is as of now pointless unless there are movies or older tv shows on dvd that never have a possibilty of coming to blu-ray. The movies really aren't an issue. So many old movies are being released monthly, so why is dvd still here?

Why did vhs last so long after dvd's introduction?

will dvd last just as long?
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Old 01-03-2011, 12:44 AM   #4
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It's pretty natural for old formats to last for awhile. As a whole, many people wait to jump into a new format until prices drop. For that to occur, market penetration has to grow as well. It's kind of a catch-22 that means that market dominance is going to take awhile.

I personally stopped buying DVD's years ago. That's personal preference. But at the same time, I'm not going to run out and purchase five on any given day. I personally make what I feel are smart purchases based on price and desire of the product. Even if every single one of us on the site followed through, it would just be a bump in sales and certainly wouldn't mean a death of the DVD market.

New release BD's like Inception are beginning to outsell DVD's, and that's essentially the death you're looking for. I don't know why it matters to you as long as your preferred title comes out on your format of choice. Hell, I wouldn't care if they continued to make DVD's and even VHS. It has no impact on me.
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Old 01-03-2011, 12:50 AM   #5
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I think your preaching to the wrong crowd. Almost everyone on here buys blu-rays only. I spend $200-$300 a Month on blu-rays alone...
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Old 01-03-2011, 12:51 AM   #6
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*Looks at my collection*

I think I'm doing my part.
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Old 01-03-2011, 12:50 AM   #7
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Pick up 5 Blu Rays on each of those given days? Five BD's in one day is pretty expensive, that is something I can't afford to do, sorry.
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Old 01-03-2011, 02:20 PM   #8
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Pick up 5 Blu Rays on each of those given days? Five BD's in one day is pretty expensive, that is something I can't afford to do, sorry.
He's going to give you cash to buy the other 4, you just have to buy 1
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Old 01-03-2011, 01:27 AM   #9
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It's pretty natural for old formats to last for awhile. As a whole, many people wait to jump into a new format until prices drop. For that to occur, market penetration has to grow as well. It's kind of a catch-22 that means that market dominance is going to take awhile.

I personally stopped buying DVD's years ago. That's personal preference. But at the same time, I'm not going to run out and purchase five on any given day. I personally make what I feel are smart purchases based on price and desire of the product. Even if every single one of us on the site followed through, it would just be a bump in sales and certainly wouldn't mean a death of the DVD market.

New release BD's like Inception are beginning to outsell DVD's, and that's essentially the death you're looking for. I don't know why it matters to you as long as your preferred title comes out on your format of choice. Hell, I wouldn't care if they continued to make DVD's and even VHS. It has no impact on me.
I care because it is not opinion, but rather a simple fact that Blu-ry is better. If you can have the same movie with better picture, audio, and exclusice extras qhy not go for it. It irritates me when an something that is inarguably superior does poorly compared to competition.

An example is a friend I talked to 2 weeks ago. We were talking about movies and he said he got "..." on dvd.I reply with "who still buys dvd's?" He comes back with "oh, you watch blu-ray?"
I say"yeah, of course. Why wouldn't I? Blu-ray is so much better"
Then his remark was so stupid, so typical of a person afraid of technology changing.
he said "Big deal! So you can see a guy's sweat"
I say "of course, why wouldn't I wanna watchmovies with significantly better picture quality and audio. It's only logical. It makes the overall experience better."
the conversation ends when he says "I don't really care!" to that in a really angry, defensive tone.



Another example, is I've got quite a few friends that have PS3's, HDTV's, and that are hooked up with HDMI and they don't buy blu-ray at all. They only buy dvd.
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Old 01-03-2011, 01:48 AM   #10
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Another example, is I've got quite a few friends that have PS3's, HDTV's, and that are hooked up with HDMI and they don't buy blu-ray at all. They only buy dvd.
Well said..I know plenty of people who have a PS3 and don't even watch movies on Blu-ray. They are really missing out. I'm an IT major and besides me and my teacher..we're the only ones who own a BD player. It's pretty crazy because most IT people are tech savvy etc. Who knows...A lot of my buddies were exited for BB's $3 DVD sales. Oh well..I can't help but laugh at the idiots burrowing through those DVD piles at Walmart.
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Old 01-03-2011, 02:01 AM   #11
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I care because it is not opinion, but rather a simple fact that Blu-ry is better. If you can have the same movie with better picture, audio, and exclusice extras qhy not go for it. It irritates me when an something that is inarguably superior does poorly compared to competition.

An example is a friend I talked to 2 weeks ago. We were talking about movies and he said he got "..." on dvd.I reply with "who still buys dvd's?" He comes back with "oh, you watch blu-ray?"
I say"yeah, of course. Why wouldn't I? Blu-ray is so much better"
Then his remark was so stupid, so typical of a person afraid of technology changing.
he said "Big deal! So you can see a guy's sweat"
I say "of course, why wouldn't I wanna watchmovies with significantly better picture quality and audio. It's only logical. It makes the overall experience better."
the conversation ends when he says "I don't really care!" to that in a really angry, defensive tone.



Another example, is I've got quite a few friends that have PS3's, HDTV's, and that are hooked up with HDMI and they don't buy blu-ray at all. They only buy dvd.
I'm not certain, but you are probably comparing a movie aficionado or huge movie fan (yourself) to a casual movie fan. That there is the problem. I have family like this, but I don't get worked up over it because I know that they don't see movies in the same way I do. I want to see them in the best possible way, but they just want to watch a new release or a movie they haven't seen and be entertained. It's not so much that they are ignorant, even though they often are misinformed or just plain wrong, it is just that they don't care about their movie experience the way you, I, and many others here do. Personally, I'd never say to someone "Who buys dvd's anymore?," mainly because I know that the vast majority of movies are still bought on dvd. When asked, I do give my opinion and views on blu's, but if they don't seem to be into movies in the same way I am, I don't go into it much because it is often times like talking to a brick wall. Sure, it's only logical "to movie fans like us" to want our movies in blu, but to the casual movie goer, they don't see it.
Think of it as two identical cuts of steak where one is cooked by a professional and the other one is not. Obviously, most steak fans are going to go for the professionally cooked steak, especially if it costs just a little more to get, but for some casual steak fans, a nicely cooked steak is just as good to them. They see the enjoyment factor as being fairly equal, whereas you and I would get more enjoyment out of one vs. the other.
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Old 01-03-2011, 02:11 AM   #12
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I care because it is not opinion, but rather a simple fact that Blu-ry is better. If you can have the same movie with better picture, audio, and exclusice extras qhy not go for it. It irritates me when an something that is inarguably superior does poorly compared to competition.

An example is a friend I talked to 2 weeks ago. We were talking about movies and he said he got "..." on dvd.I reply with "who still buys dvd's?" He comes back with "oh, you watch blu-ray?"
I say"yeah, of course. Why wouldn't I? Blu-ray is so much better"
Then his remark was so stupid, so typical of a person afraid of technology changing.
he said "Big deal! So you can see a guy's sweat"
I say "of course, why wouldn't I wanna watchmovies with significantly better picture quality and audio. It's only logical. It makes the overall experience better."
the conversation ends when he says "I don't really care!" to that in a really angry, defensive tone.



Another example, is I've got quite a few friends that have PS3's, HDTV's, and that are hooked up with HDMI and they don't buy blu-ray at all. They only buy dvd.
Why does it matter if your friend prefers DVD's? Not everyone in the world is a huge Video/Audio/Movie nut like most everyone here is on this site.

Some people don't care if they have a blown up or zoomed pictures on there HDTV(My parents do this on their HDTV at their house, and it drives me nuts, but its there tv they can do what they want...)

You could apply this to anything... why don't you have the latest phone out there.. or the latest (insert name of electronics here).. it all comes down to people and what is important to them.

To some... as odd as it may sound to us here... they don't care about having better picture or sound or even the right aspect ratio they just want to watch a movie. That's fine with me, it's their choice, and I just continue to buy movies in the format that works for me which is Blu-ray.
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Old 01-03-2011, 04:59 AM   #13
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I care because it is not opinion, but rather a simple fact that Blu-ry is better. If you can have the same movie with better picture, audio, and exclusice extras qhy not go for it. It irritates me when an something that is inarguably superior does poorly compared to competition.
The superior technology rarely wins out. VHS was inferior to Betamax. SACD and DVD-Audio were failures. CDs are superior to compressed MP3s, but MP3s are certainly winning that race. Cassettes and 8-tracks were both big in spite of the fact that they were clearly inferior to LPs. People care more about convenience and price than they do about quality. That's been proven time and time again.

Also, while Blu-ray may have better picture and audio, if you don't have a great set and you don 't have a sound system and only play back audio via your TV, then Blu-ray really isn't going to make much difference and while the price of catalog Blu-ray discs are dropping surprisingly rapidly, the price of new releases is still substantially higher than DVDs. And there's a fair and growing part of the market that only watches on their computers. So for all those people, they're really not going to notice much of a difference watching Blu-ray.

Everyone makes choices about what's important to them. I can say that the Armani couture line of clothing is clearly better because it has better tailoring, the finest imported wool from Italy and the best thread. And you might respond, "I'm not spending $600 for a pair of pants and I don't care if it's better." I can find some fancy $500 copper frying pan that I can prove cooks better and you might not care about that either, because the $25 frying pan that you use is good enough to cook eggs and burgers. So the person who makes the choice that DVD is good enough is making the right choice for them. It surprises me that people want to watch movies on their smartphones, but I see people doing that every day. Those people certainly don't need BD quality.
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Old 01-03-2011, 01:07 AM   #14
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The idea of dvd still going until 2015 is disheartening.
I can't remember the last DVD I bought but I can't think of a single reason why I should care whether they're still sold or not.

A lot of people have dvd players in their cars or in kids rooms or other secondary places. Why should I care whether those players get replaced tomorrow or a few years from now (or whether they ever get replaced, for that matter)?
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Old 01-03-2011, 01:15 AM   #15
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Isn't the whole point of collecting movies, to try and acquire movies you enjoy in the best format possible? Some movies will never see a Blu-ray release. Should I ignore any and everything that isn't Blu-ray, in hopes that such action will spurn the powers that be?

Just because a movie gets released on Blu-ray, that doesn't necessarily mean it will have a quality transfer. The key word being quality. I want the best quality available for the movies I enjoy and still seek. If that happens to be DVD right now, so be it.

In my opinion, the focus should be on the pleasure and quality of the movies we collect, not the flavor of the day medium.
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Old 01-03-2011, 01:21 AM   #16
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I havent bought a DVD in ages and I will continue to buy blu-rays. If some good movies come out around those days I will make sure to buy em!
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I think it's safe to say that we all do our part to contribute towards the success and market share of Blu-ray. A good friend of mine finally jumped aboard the Blu-ship this holiday season and I was happy to hear him say "wow..this looks so much better than DVD"..so it is happening, but it will take some time.

The last true DVD that I bought was in '08 when Universal was still HD DVD exclusive. I really wanted American Gangster and had no choice but to buy the DVD. It was the 3-disk collector's edition. I paid around $25 for it then and now it's $1.45 on Amazon.

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Old 01-03-2011, 12:46 AM   #18
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I'm sure you mean well, but it's a silly idea that won't have any effect.

Plus getting people to all buy on the same day is a big issue as well, just let people buy what they want. Blu-Ray is growing just fine by itself and will only get bigger in the future.
I agree. I'd give the OP an A for effort, but the execution is just not there. I purchased something close to 225-250 blu's in 2010, so I'm sure I'll be picking up plenty in 2011 to do my part. I just checked DVD Profiler, and I picked up just one dvd (picked up plenty of blu/dvd combos though) in 2010. I picked up Boondock Saints II because it had a dvd SteelBook, I wanted it to match up with my Boondock Saints dvd SteelBook (have the blu in it already), and I'll be adding the BSII blu to the SteelBook eventually. I might pick up some blu's on the days you suggested, I might not, but I doubt if I'll go through the trouble of picking up 5 titles blindly, or going out and buying 5 titles on these days no matter the price. 5 might be a bit of a stretch, but 1-2 titles seems more than do-able. I'm sure I'll be able to find 1 or 2 titles to hold off buying until those days you marked.

With the price of blu-ray players now under the $100 mark, blu-ray sales are going go be increasing steadily. Hell, my brother decided to pick up a blu-ray player last month because his dvd player died on him. I told him that the prices have dropped dramatically on the players, and the movies are much more reasonable now if you just look around or wait for a sale price. I gave him his first 2 blu's for Christmas.

A better idea would be to see how many friends or family members we can convert to blu in 2011, and post the results. I haven't had a chance to talk to my brother yet, but hopefully, his next movie purchase will be in blu.

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I don't really buy DVDs anymore unless a show is made in 480p. All my future purchases are Blu-Ray, so I'm offically hooked.
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Let's boost up Blu-ray sales. Blu-ray is starting to go up in sales while dvd is declining, it is far from being the standard. It only has I would guess a 20% market share. Not sure, just know that last year(or 2009) the market share for blu-ray was 13%


In order to help Blu-ray, I'll pick 4 days this year.
On February 16, June 25th, September 19, and November 11th, go to your local store and pick up 5 Blu-rays on each of these days. Also, you must vow to not buy a single dvd in 2011 no matter how cheap or discernable the blu-ray version is from the dvd.

This may seem like a foolish, futile attempt at helping blu-ray, but dependind on how many people we get, it could make a real difference and cause a dent in dvd since none of us will buy any. Let's just say that 250 people agree to this. 5 x 250=1,250 x 4 days=5,000 extra blu-ray units sold. That's not taking into account that Blu-ray sales increase annualy even without this and that 0 dvd's will be bought.

We should try.
Good idea. But unless you are going to give me money to spend. I think a lot of us poor folks aren't going to try this.
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