House M.D. - Complete Collection Pre-order

[McCrutchy]

Originally Posted by Buzz201

Whilst I think Amazon will accept your return, that's not necessarily because they agree it's lying, that's not neccesarily because they agree it's lying, it's because they're a huge business, and they'd probably accept your return regardless of what you put...

And I certainly could not return Braquo to Amazon, I purchased it from Zavvi...

Amazon, Zavvi, it matters not. A return for a refund would (or should) be accepted.

And just to clear, this doesn't really have anything to do with lying. It's entirely likely that nobody lied intentionally. Although the effect is that the packaging "lies" by mis-representing the contents inside, as I pointed out, the logo was probably attached out of ignorance, not deliberate deception. Amazon, or any other reputable vendor, would accept the return because the packaging mis-represents the contents inside, no more, no less.

In the case of this House M.D. set, I have nothing to return, as I cancelled my order when I saw the lossy audio on the Spanish version, knowing the UK discs would be the same.

(The above response should have been here from the beginning. I don't know what happened with my posting of it...)

Originally Posted by jordanwalkert

Honestly, it shouldn't matter a ton. Even with DTS 5.1, that's still better quality than you've ever experienced the show's early seasons. It's better than broadcast Dolby 5.1, it's better than previous DVD versions, and a show like this is mostly talking and minor atmospheric sounds. I highly doubt there would be a huge jump in quality to DTS-MA. Besides, the 1080p video of a show shot, color graded and mastered entirely from 35mm film is what makes this worth it. House has always looked and sounded incredible, so this will be a huge upgrade regardless. Because who knows when or if we will ever get a release in the US- and even if we do, that might not include lossless either!

Not to single out jordanwalkert, but honestly, posts like this need to stop, about how [insert Blu-ray release] doesn't "need" lossless audio for any variety of reasons. One of the biggest errors the BDA ever made was in allowing lossy audio onto the format, because distributors are often lazy and careless, and lossy audio is often just an easy way for them to cut corners on many releases, like this one.

In the case of this set, you have DTS audio for one reason only--it reduces the number of discs in the set, and saves a small amount of time and costs for Universal.

Shockingly, since they decided to put all (or at least most) of the extras and commentaries on this set, of course they were probably never going to be able to provide lossless audio on sets that were only five discs per season (the shorter fourth season has four discs), considering that they just had to jam DTS 5.1 dubbed audio in French German and Japanese, and DTS 2.0 dubbed audio in Portuguese and Spanish on these discs as well.

Notice how the US season sets have only the one audio track in lossless, and my understanding is that some of the European season sets even had lossless dubbed audio to go along with the lossless original, but because Universal wanted to release the exact same set in several territories, and likely wanted to keep the set at 40 BDs or less, you get this fiasco. Any US complete series set (should one materialize) is far more likely to have lossless audio.

The complete series DVD boxes from Universal in Europe contained 48 DVDs, and again, the DVD versions were usually more localized, with less audio and subtitles options.

[jordanwalkert]

Originally Posted by McCrutchy

Amazon, Zavvi, it matters not. A return for a refund would (or should) be accepted.

And just to clear, this doesn't really have anything to do with lying. It's entirely likely that nobody lied intentionally. Although the effect is that the packaging "lies" by mis-representing the contents inside, as I pointed out, the logo was probably attached out of ignorance, not deliberate deception. Amazon, or any other reputable vendor, would accept the return because the packaging mis-represents the contents inside, no more, no less.

In the case of this House M.D. set, I have nothing to return, as I cancelled my order when I saw the lossy audio on the Spanish version, knowing the UK discs would be the same.

(The above response should have been here from the beginning. I don't know what happened with my posting of it...)



Not to single out jordanwalkert, but honestly, posts like this need to stop, about how [insert Blu-ray release] doesn't "need" lossless audio for any variety of reasons. One of the biggest errors the BDA ever made was in allowing lossy audio onto the format, because distributors are often lazy and careless, and lossy audio is often just an easy way for them to cut corners on many releases, like this one.

In the case of this set, you have DTS audio for one reason only--it reduces the number of discs in the set, and saves a small amount of time and costs for Universal.

Shockingly, since they decided to put all (or at least most) of the extras and commentaries on this set, of course they were probably never going to be able to provide lossless audio on sets that were only five discs per season (the shorter fourth season has four discs), considering that they just had to jam DTS 5.1 dubbed audio in French German and Japanese, and DTS 2.0 dubbed audio in Portuguese and Spanish on these discs as well.

Notice how the US season sets have only the one audio track in lossless, and my understanding is that some of the European season sets even had lossless dubbed audio to go along with the lossless original, but because Universal wanted to release the exact same set in several territories, and likely wanted to keep the set at 40 BDs or less, you get this fiasco. Any US complete series set (should one materialize) is far more likely to have lossless audio.

The complete series DVD boxes from Universal in Europe contained 48 DVDs, and again, the DVD versions were usually more localized, with less audio and subtitles options.

I will agree with you on this. I am not siding with the companies that do this by any means. I have thousands of dollars invested in a home theater to get the best experience possible and I too am extremely frustrated at this trend. However in this case, it's not going to cause me to cancel or return my order simply because I'm such a big fan of the show and these will be the best versions I can get my hands on. Unfortunately, I think boycotting or not supporting versions like this won't get the companies to make higher quality releases in the future, but instead take it that people simply aren't interested in the format and may lead to less shows and movies appearing on blu ray I fear. I'm just happy to have every single episode of house as one big set, with all extras and in 1080p. Lossless audio would make this a perfect set, but until that set exists- DTS is still an upgrade over DD. Just my opinion here.

[The Apocalypse]

I asked Universal about this and they said this

The packaging for the box set states the audio is DTS Surround, this has been confirmed as correct.

Kind regards

Universal UK

[MokaBear]

Why does the link on the main page link to the French release of season 1 when it could link to this?

[Buzz201]

Originally Posted by MokaBear

Why does the link on the main page link to the French release of season 1 when it could link to this?

It's a list of good deals, presumably £122 isn't a good deal, although I'll let you make up your own mind on that...

[5150]

What's the word on the title theme? I assume it isn't Massive Attack?

[FilmFanSam]

whats the picture quality like?

[manicsounds]

Originally Posted by 5150

What's the word on the title theme? I assume it isn't Massive Attack?

Never really watched the show, had no idea they used a Massive Attack song. Was it changed on the DVD releases?

[5150]

Originally Posted by manicsounds

Never really watched the show, had no idea they used a Massive Attack song. Was it changed on the DVD releases?

The original theme song was Mezzanine by Massive Attack. I'm in the US and they used that song throughout the entire series. However I have heard that elsewhere, due to licensing reasons, they had to use other music. I really want the blu-ray set but if it doesn't have the Massive Attack music I probably won't get it. Weird, I know.

[david_s1981]

Originally Posted by 5150

What's the word on the title theme? I assume it isn't Massive Attack?

Just checked a couple of episodes from different seasons and there is no massive attack theme, just the 'House Theme' version.

[lcohaila]

David, region free?

[FilmFanSam]

Originally Posted by lcohaila

David, region free?

That has already been confirmed numerous times on this thread. Yes, it is region free. It is a Universal release.

[lcohaila]

OK Sam.... but no stress for that....

[FilmFanSam]

Originally Posted by lcohaila

OK Sam.... but no stress for that....

Didn't mean to come across that way. Apologies if I did.

[5150]

Originally Posted by david_s1981

Just checked a couple of episodes from different seasons and there is no massive attack theme, just the 'House Theme' version.

This makes me very sad What do you guys think are the odds that a US version of this set comes out? I understand why it wouldn't but at the same time I think it is pretty confusing that a blu-ray set of a US-based show comes out everywhere but the US. All they would have to do is switch the theme music!

[GoldMotel]

Originally Posted by 5150

This makes me very sad What do you guys think are the odds that a US version of this set comes out? I understand why it wouldn't but at the same time I think it is pretty confusing that a blu-ray set of a US-based show comes out everywhere but the US. All they would have to do is switch the theme music!

Not too confusing. International rights sometimes work differently than US rights, which could speed up or slow down the home video release of the show.

Music rights, especially works differently in other countries. That's why Ally Mcbeal was able to be released throughout Europe with all original music years before the US could secure the music rights to do the same.

[5150]

Originally Posted by GoldMotel

Not too confusing. International rights sometimes work differently than US rights, which could speed up or slow down the home video release of the show.

Music rights, especially works differently in other countries. That's why Ally Mcbeal was able to be released throughout Europe with all original music years before the US could secure the music rights to do the same.

I'm speculating but I doubt that licensing is the reason a US release hasn't been announced yet. I'm wondering if they aren't going to release it because they don't think there is a demand here. It has happened to other shows.

[Buzz201]

Also, worth noting that European releases are cheaper to do, because Universal can and will use the same discs for every single territory, so all they need to is one disc run and a bunch of different packing runs, whereas Universal aren't cheap enough to/won't give the US the same discs Europe has, so it's a lot of expense to produce entirely new masters and then do another run of those...

[merkman]

Looked first, but hadn't seen anyone mention this version being released.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/House.../107331/#Forum

Between the cheaper price, and Euros instead of Pounds, this was a no brainer. My pre-order is in.

[5150]

That French packing is cool. US will be next, right?