Gemini Man (2019)

[HorrorBlu]

They were filming this in Savannah while I was there, well over a year ago now. I completely forgot all about it until the trailer was released today

[TheSweetieMan]

I don't have a problem at all with the CGI or overall visual style.

I think stripping it down from its intended 120-fps to 24-fps, creates this weird sort of 'video' look, that I actually think wouldn't be as noticeably present in its intended format. If that makes sense.

I hope that Paramount puts out a UHD for this at 60fps, similar to what Sony did with Bill Lynn.

This film could be an interesting look into what higher framerates can do for films of this genre. Looks to be a ton of gun and hand-to-hand combat, that is staged with some pretty good angles, so I am curious to see how that would come across with the hyper-realistic visual style.

I'm still partial to 24fps myself--but I am not against seeing how higher framerates can continue to be used through trial and error. At some point, a filmmaker is going to crack the visual language for it.

[Geoff D]

Because of the 360-degree shutter angle as shot (movies are usually shot with a 180-degree shutter) then you're getting a lot of that 'soap opera' motion in the trailer, even at 24p, but it's still going to look HELLA soapy in 120 or even in 60, it's an unavoidable effect of having so much temporal information vs the strobey 24p motion we're so used to.

Me, I gots no problem with 24p in itself but I loved the hyper-real look of Billy Lynn's @ 60p on the UHD so I'm looking forward to seeing if Ang can actually combine a decent story with those stunning visuals this time around.

The de-aging looks stellar, apart from that first shot in profile in the trailer. In the last shot of the young one in the trailer he looks more like Jaden Smith than Will IMO.

[TheSweetieMan]

Oh, I know with the higher framerate that it'll have the hyper-realism look to it--but I was saying that taking the intended 120-fps and taking it down to 24fps, probably makes that hyper-real look not come off as naturally intended as the 120fps it was shot at.

But, yeah, I think that visually, it looks solid still. So, not sure why another poster said it looked like a mess.

[ivanb06]

First thing I thought of when watching the trailer was Looper.

[cynatnite]

That's a powerful trailer and compelling.

I look at the young Will Smith and I see him back in his Fresh Prince days.

[ArrestedDevelopment]

This looks like it belongs in the late 90s lol.

[Creed]

Originally Posted by ArrestedDevelopment

This looks like it belongs in the late 90s lol.

Well, the concept of the film was originally conceived in 1997, lol:

Originally conceived in 1997, the film went through development hell for nearly 20 years. Several directors, including Tony Scott, Curtis Hanson and Joe Carnahan, were all attached at some point and numerous actors, including Harrison Ford, Mel Gibson, Clint Eastwood and Sean Connery, were set to star. In 2016, Skydance Media purchased the rights to the screenplay (which had been through several rewrites) from Walt Disney Pictures, and in October 2017 Ang Lee signed on to direct. Filming took place from February through May 2018.

[kylor]

Which movie looks more 90's? Gemini Man or Venom?

[goresnet]

This trailer looks really good. As the movie is still in production, the CGI probably isn't finalized. I'd bet it's much better by the time it hits theaters.

[Zillamon51]

Good trailer. Looks promising. I'll see it in theater.

I had no idea that HFR had anything to do with this. I saw the first Hobbit movie in HFR, and didn't like it.

[dgoswald]

It seems a little basic for Ang Lee. I'm sure it'll be good.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by dgoswald

It seems a little basic for Ang Lee. I'm sure it'll be good.

It seems like a Hard Target (or Paycheck) John Woo era picture feel to me.

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by ArrestedDevelopment

This looks like it belongs in the late 90s lol.

Originally Posted by chip75

It seems like a Hard Target (or Paycheck) John Woo era picture feel to me.

Nailed it.

[dgoswald]

Originally Posted by chip75

It seems like a Hard Target (or Paycheck) John Woo era picture feel to me.

Yes, definitely has a mid-to-late 90s feel to it in more ways than one. Perhaps it's a deliberate stylistic choice.

[CelluloidPal]

The trailer just ran during the NFL Draft. I looks like it could be something good.
Hopefully, it'll be shown in that high frame rate.

[therealjondoe]

Originally Posted by ivanb06

First thing I thought of when watching the trailer was Looper.

Same here
2nd thought was the bad cg de-aging , although it seemed to get better as the trailer went on. Except that profile view

[mjvmovieman]

The CG looks fine except when showing the side of Smith's young face early on.

The irony is using this technology on Will Smith, and not on someone a bit less ageless. All the dude has to do is shave and grow taller hair. Boom, he's 20 again instead of 30.

[atomicreplicant]

Originally Posted by mjvmovieman

The CG looks fine except when showing the side of Smith's young face early on.

The irony is using this technology on Will Smith, and not on someone a bit less ageless. All the dude has to do is shave and grow taller hair. Boom, he's 20 again instead of 30.

Plot twist: the trailer doesn't have any CG yet

[mjvmovieman]

Originally Posted by atomicreplicant

Plot twist: the trailer doesn't have any CG yet

That would be an awesome plot twist.