Disney+'s - WandaVision (Season 1)

[solarrdadd]

[jayman3]

Originally Posted by mwynn

Why because Man thing is in the image?

These are the reps.

[Show spoiler]
Scarlet Witch,[4] Lore,[2] Eleyn,[5] Leonard Tippit, Sise-Neg, Merlin, Kang the Conqueror, Franklin Richards,[1] Vision,[6] Jean Grey,[7] Odin Borson[7]

Partially but isn’t Man-Thing the Keeper of the Nexus?

[Show spoiler] What if Agatha has already taken over the Nexus of All Realities, and is either using Man-Thing or part of Man-Thing to fold realities in on itself?

[Underworld54]

The last two episodes should be well over an hour each, right?

[solarrdadd]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

The last two episodes should be well over an hour each, right?

[KINGDANGER]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

The last two episodes should be well over an hour each, right?

I bet they are regular.

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by KINGDANGER

I bet they are regular.

Impossible, way too much to answer in that short of time.

[brooks101189]

Watch Marvel pull it off.

[Star Lord]

I expect them to be 40-50 minutes max.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

Impossible, way too much to answer in that short of time.

Only if you expect the story is a lot bigger than it is. Agatha mentors Wanda, Monica becomes part of the team, Vision joins the gang to fend off Hayward. End of season.

Entertainment Weekly previously noted during a visit to the WandaVision set, writing: "Ideally, Marvel hopes WandaVision will be just the pilot episode of a long-running TV dynasty; the studio is already hard at work developing seven additional shows, with each one connecting to past and future films.

"WandaVision, Feige notes, will directly set up the 2022 film Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, with Olsen’s witch playing a key role alongside Benedict Cumberbatch’s sorcerer.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Star Lord

I expect them to be 40-50 minutes max.

I expect we lost a hour or more with the credits with this so called 6 hours of 9 episode series. If the last one is a hour for the finale . . .great, it might make up for the 240 mins (4 hours estimated for episodes 1-8.

[VincentVinyl]

For me it is surprsing to see how many people like this show. I was looking forward to it and was surprised to see how terrible it is in my opinion. In a lot of aspects it feels very similar for me as "Agents of Shield", since the writing has a certain 1990s vibe - but sadly not in a positive way.

The first 3 episodes were extremely long-winded. The plot that they contained could have easily been condensed into one or even a half episode. I understand that they wanted to create mystery - but if your series takes 3 episodes for that without showing any strong character beats or an interesting plot, then you should really work on your scripts a lot more.

For me the series just did not work and I gave up after episode three, as I felt the writers were obviously wasting my time. I know that afterwards the mystery starts to untangle as I read a bit about further episodes online, but for me it was too little too late.

Also: I liked the idea of paying hommage to older sitcoms, but WandaVision has a big problem: It is completely unfunny. If you chose to pay tribute to the sitcoms of old and take a lot of situations out of them, make them funny. Sadly for me it was just a poor man's version of the originals considering this aspect.

I am glad for everyone who enjoys the show but I was completely disappointed and felt I really wasted my time with such a poorly written show with such a terrible pacing. There are just too many alternatives to watch, that is why I quit after episode three - with the regret that I did not already stop after episode 1.

Was there anyone who was feeling similar about it?

[Joey9775]

Originally Posted by VincentVinyl

For me it is surprsing to see how many people like this show. I was looking forward to it and was surprised to see how terrible it is in my opinion. In a lot of aspects it feels very similar for me as "Agents of Shield", since the writing has a certain 1990s vibe - but sadly not in a positive way.

The first 3 episodes were extremely long-winded. The plot that they contained could have easily been condensed into one or even a half episode. I understand that they wanted to create mystery - but if your series takes 3 episodes for that without showing any strong character beats or an interesting plot, then you should really work on your scripts a lot more.

For me the series just did not work and I gave up after episode three, as I felt the writers were obviously wasting my time. I know that afterwards the mystery starts to untangle as I read a bit about further episodes online, but for me it was too little too late.

Also: I liked the idea of paying hommage to older sitcoms, but WandaVision has a big problem: It is completely unfunny. If you chose to pay tribute to the sitcoms of old and take a lot of situations out of them, make them funny. Sadly for me it was just a poor man's version of the originals considering this aspect.

I am glad for everyone who enjoys the show but I was completely disappointed and felt I really wasted my time with such a poorly written show with such a terrible pacing. There are just too many alternatives to watch, that is why I quit after episode three - with the regret that I did not already stop after episode 1.

Was there anyone who was feeling similar about it?

Nope.

[jayman3]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

The last two episodes should be well over an hour each, right?

Originally Posted by JohnAV

I expect we lost a hour or more with the credits with this so called 6 hours of 9 episode series. If the last one is a hour for the finale . . .great, it might make up for the 240 mins (4 hours estimated for episodes 1-8.

Each episode has been between 30-35 minutes. With average of 7 minutes of credits. Which results in total runtime being 37-42 minutes in length.

There are nine episodes. When the season is finished we would have 270-315 minutes worth of show. Or 4hrs 20min to 5hrs 15min.

If credits were involved, then the season would run 335-380min. Which is 5hrs 35min to 6hrs 20min.

[Wernski]

Originally Posted by VincentVinyl

[Show spoiler]For me it is surprsing to see how many people like this show. I was looking forward to it and was surprised to see how terrible it is in my opinion. In a lot of aspects it feels very similar for me as "Agents of Shield", since the writing has a certain 1990s vibe - but sadly not in a positive way.

The first 3 episodes were extremely long-winded. The plot that they contained could have easily been condensed into one or even a half episode. I understand that they wanted to create mystery - but if your series takes 3 episodes for that without showing any strong character beats or an interesting plot, then you should really work on your scripts a lot more.

For me the series just did not work and I gave up after episode three, as I felt the writers were obviously wasting my time. I know that afterwards the mystery starts to untangle as I read a bit about further episodes online, but for me it was too little too late.

Also: I liked the idea of paying hommage to older sitcoms, but WandaVision has a big problem: It is completely unfunny. If you chose to pay tribute to the sitcoms of old and take a lot of situations out of them, make them funny. Sadly for me it was just a poor man's version of the originals considering this aspect.

I am glad for everyone who enjoys the show but I was completely disappointed and felt I really wasted my time with such a poorly written show with such a terrible pacing. There are just too many alternatives to watch, that is why I quit after episode three - with the regret that I did not already stop after episode 1.

Was there anyone who was feeling similar about it?

Pretty much. I'll tell you though, if you gave up after episode 3, episode 4 is exactly where the series changes. The story starts dividing its focus outside the Hex.

But yeah, the series definitely has a problem in that the sitcom parodies are pure recycled cliche (as you say, they don't actually try to be sincerely funny... and TV is already filled to the brim with unfunny sitcoms), and for me at least, the novelty that they're "but with Marvel characters inserted" holds up for a few minutes, maybe, but not a few episodes. It doesn't spark any particular joy for me when they say that their toaster is manufactured by Stark Enterprises.

However, this last episode worked like I think most of the series should have all along - a Marvel story taking place inside the trappings of a sitcom. But early episodes were just dolling out sporadic hints sprinkled throughout an unbroken sitcom. And while yes, there is some mystery fans care about (who exactly is controlling what? Which Big Bad will be revealed in the end? How will this connect to future Marvel Stuff?) a lot of it is either deep-in-the-weeds references for diehard comicbook readers only, or general hints that everybody already knew before starting to watch (just suggesting that W&V are trapped in some kind of magical/sci-fi Matrix where everything is not what it seems isn't giving anybody anything).

Like, I read comics as a kid growing up, so I get a lot of this West Coast Avengers stuff. But to fans of just the films/ shows, a little pendant saying "SWORD" doesn't mean anything besides "I guess they're another group." Or if

[Show spoiler]you've never heard of Agatha Harkness, the big reveal only tells us that Agnes is some bad lady sinisterly pulling strings, when it was obvious again from the series' premise that this Hex stuff was a sinister manipulative lie and Agnes wasn't to be trusted.

For me, this series feels like very thin gruel spread through too far too many episodes teasing a lot of what was already perfectly understood. The first three episodes could've been the first fifteen minutes of episode 1. It's tough to keep a mystery engaging where the audience is ahead of the characters, and we're still waiting for Wanda to figure out what we knew even before episode 1 aired.

Now the series' appeal feels more tied to how you feel about the interactions between Randall Park and Kat Dennings, which I have to admit, I've been enjoying. So I probably rate the series higher than you do at this late stage. But that's just because it's pandemic season, not much to do, so I've hung in there where I normally wouldn't have bothered.

[BluLobsta]

I've seen the first two episodes so far. It's different. I'll say that much. I like the nods to Bewitched and The Dick Van Dyke shows. I like it enough to continue watching.

[mwynn]

Originally Posted by VincentVinyl

Was there anyone who was feeling similar about it?

Not every show and movie will land with every person. Good luck finding something you will enjoy.

[JayTL]

I hope the next episode is 5 minutes long, and the finale is actually -2 hours.

[Esox50]

Originally Posted by Wernski

I'll tell you though, if you gave up after episode 3, episode 4 is exactly where the series changes. The story starts dividing its focus outside the Hex.

You hit the nail on the head. I almost gave up after the first few episodes. I kept telling myself 1.)finally there is some new MCU stuff due to this pandemic and you're really going to give up watching it? 2.)Kevin Feige, after 20+ movies, deserves the benefit of the doubt...keep watching.

Then episode 4 happens. It's been a great ride since then, and one of the better pieces of entertainment of the last few years IMHO.

[VincentVinyl]

Like, I read comics as a kid growing up, so I get a lot of this West Coast Avengers stuff. But to fans of just the films/ shows, a little pendant saying "SWORD" doesn't mean anything besides "I guess they're another group." Or if you've never heard of Agatha Harkness, the big reveal only tells us that Agnes is some bad lady sinisterly pulling strings, when it was obvious again from the series' premise that this Hex stuff was a sinister manipulative lie and Agnes wasn't to be trusted.

As a child I also read some of the Westcoast Avenger stories so I am even one of those fans who will get a lot of references. But I was never someone who would shout with joy: "Wow!!! They made this scene look exactly like that one comic book panel!" or "Great easter egg, this is so fantastic!"

I like a great adaption true to the source that pays hommage to it, but the most important is, that it works on it's own with a great story and great characters. And the first three episosdes of WandaVision had neither. They build on an interesting premise, but never go anywhere with it. Many of my friends advised me to "at least watch episode 4", but by that point I was too frustrated with the writing, because I already regretted watching episodes 2 and three.

For me, this series feels like very thin gruel spread through too far too many episodes teasing a lot of what was already perfectly understood. The first three episodes could've been the first fifteen minutes of episode 1. It's tough to keep a mystery engaging where the audience is ahead of the characters, and we're still waiting for Wanda to figure out what we knew even before episode 1 aired.

That was also my feeling. The problem is that the mystery was clear from the beginning to a certain degree, because they already revealed a lot in the trailers. They could still have made it work perfectly, but for that the sitcom bits would have to have been much stronger: Which means they should have been funny and entertaining. But they felt like very uninspired parodies / tributes to the genre.

Not every show and movie will land with every person. Good luck finding something you will enjoy.

Sadly I have to work a lot (freelance), so I do not have time to watch as many shows as I am interested in :-/. That is why usually a lot of stuff piles up and then I have to really choose what to engage with. That is also the reason why I sometimes jump off the boat with a series after one episode, if I really "did not feel it". As a Marvel fan I watched 3 episodes of WandaVision, cause I really hoped I could find something there, but I really was so bored by episode three, that I felt the urge to grab my phone and just browse a bit. That is never a good sign.

Another show that really blew me away is "Cobra Kai", which in my opinion has extremely strong writing for most of the characters and a lot of great humour as well as heart. But I also loved both seasons of "The Mandalorian" for example as well as "The Boys" or "Umbrella Academy".

[Star Lord]

The first two episodes are still my favorite.