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Old 08-10-2021, 09:45 PM   #1201
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Old 08-10-2021, 09:52 PM   #1202
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I cancelled my order from bull moose and ordered the steelbook from Amazon. It was about 2 dollars cheaper, but I don’t have to pay for shipping. So win-win
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Old 08-10-2021, 09:57 PM   #1203
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The trailer looks great! The icing on the cake would be if it has the uncut footage and Paramount simply didn't notice. Of course, that's highly unlikely, but I'll be more than pleased if we can just get good discs out of this.



I don't understand why Paramount doesn't have a simultaneous UK release ready to go for such a huge catalog title. Maybe it will show up at the last minute?
Do they have the rights to these Miramax titles outside of the US?
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Old 08-10-2021, 10:01 PM   #1204
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I have no issue with it not being the unrated. From what I’ve read only adds 6 seconds of footage? I’ve never seen it and I’m going to guess most of us have never seen it, but I’m impressed with how vocal people are for this.
It amounts to about 30 seconds of mostly replaced shots or brief (sometimes only a few frames) of inserts. There is a good run-down here.

In a perfect world, yes, I'd love it to be included - but it really doesn't make enough difference that I feel like it's some cinematic tragedy. The footage does give a bit more "bite" in some cases - though, some of it is preference as well.

I've heard it argued that, for example, the brief shot of Steve's guts in the beginning is definitely gorier, but that some people find the face close-up that it replaces from the theatrical was one of those "what you don't see (yet) is even scarier" moments. Some people also prefer the kinetics of the sped-up final shot of the opening - it's the same exact shot, just twice as fast.

I think what I see most people get excited about is the few inserts during Billy and Stu's "battle" - but to be honest, I think the best addition is actually the 2 extra seconds you get of Kenny's death. It has the most impact there for me, because it was a well-acted moment where you see him realize what just happened.

But yeah - talking about it in detail makes it sound like a lot more than it really is. I doubt most casual viewers would really notice in motion.
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Old 08-10-2021, 10:02 PM   #1205
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I believe I read that they have worldwide rights.
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Old 08-10-2021, 10:07 PM   #1206
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That’s a nice trailer, and the transfer definitely looks like an improvement. Not surprised at the lack of unrated cut. Big studios usually aren’t as aware of them. Just look at Warner neglecting JGTH’s unrated cut for the Friday the 13th tin set. This was going to be even less likely since it hasn’t legally been available in the US since VHS/Laserdisc. The unrated footage is also almost certainly not a part of the cut negative, and Paramount/Miramax would likely need to source a secondary element for it like an interpositive.
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Old 08-10-2021, 10:19 PM   #1207
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Hoping From Dusk Till Dawn looks as great.
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Old 08-10-2021, 10:24 PM   #1208
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The trailer looks great! The icing on the cake would be if it has the uncut footage and Paramount simply didn't notice. Of course, that's highly unlikely, but I'll be more than pleased if we can just get good discs out of this.
I suppose that’s technically possible, considering it’s literally seconds worth of footage. Those frames could still be within the OCN and Paramount just went ahead and scanned it as-is, without realizing it’s the “unrated cut.”
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I believe I read that they have worldwide rights.
Paramount UK also released a three-film pack in October 2020:



Notice the Paramount logo on the back cover here:

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Old 08-10-2021, 11:00 PM   #1210
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Got the steelbook preordered. I have parts 2, 3, and 4 already, so it’ll be good to finally get the first film.
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Old 08-10-2021, 11:13 PM   #1211
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im a dummy show me where it says the blu ray will be remastered?

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Old 08-10-2021, 11:13 PM   #1212
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Anyone got a link to that 4K steelbook on Amazon? I can't seem to find it there?
https://www.amazon.com/Scream-4K-Blu...=ATVPDKIKX0DER
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Old 08-10-2021, 11:38 PM   #1213
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I believe I read that they have worldwide rights.
I’m not sure about current Canadian rights at the moment since for the longest time it was eOne/Alliance over here, but they’ve seem to have been losing some Miramax titles lately anyways so I believe Paramount does have worldwide rights.
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I like having dual format 4Ks with the BDs included, but Paramount keeps putting these out WITHOUT them! Started with Days of Thunder. I am getting to the point that I'm only going to make my own combo packs if I already own a disc on BD format in some shape or form....simply because I don't feel like dropping a format option completely without a replacement. I already have the old Scream BD, so I'm either going to just pair that disc with the 4K, or buy the new BD if it's remastered, and include that, in effect replacing the old BD. So either way, I still have a standard BD of this particular title. If it's a title I never owned a BD of, there's nothing I'm really losing or dropping if one isn't included. I just don't feel like buying everything twice going forward.



But I guess this could be dependent on the BD. Some might be completely unwatchable compared to the BD. Ideally a BD would be of good quality like Days of Thunder. If the BD to include in a combo pack looks like hot garbage, I guess I wouldn't put much effort in keeping it around.

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Old 08-11-2021, 12:26 AM   #1215
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That shot of Gale Weathers reporting from outside the house…ooh la la!
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But seriously, how does color get that messed up? It's not like they had their own Dean Cundey fiddling about with the first Blu-ray transfer Anyone more knowledgeable than me have an answer?
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Old 08-11-2021, 12:40 AM   #1217
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It amounts to about 30 seconds of mostly replaced shots or brief (sometimes only a few frames) of inserts. There is a good run-down here.

In a perfect world, yes, I'd love it to be included - but it really doesn't make enough difference that I feel like it's some cinematic tragedy. The footage does give a bit more "bite" in some cases - though, some of it is preference as well.

I've heard it argued that, for example, the brief shot of Steve's guts in the beginning is definitely gorier, but that some people find the face close-up that it replaces from the theatrical was one of those "what you don't see (yet) is even scarier" moments. Some people also prefer the kinetics of the sped-up final shot of the opening - it's the same exact shot, just twice as fast.

I think what I see most people get excited about is the few inserts during Billy and Stu's "battle" - but to be honest, I think the best addition is actually the 2 extra seconds you get of Kenny's death. It has the most impact there for me, because it was a well-acted moment where you see him realize what just happened.

But yeah - talking about it in detail makes it sound like a lot more than it really is. I doubt most casual viewers would really notice in motion.
I agree with all that you said. The movie made a ton of money, was critically-acclaimed, has maintained its popularity, and is getting a 25th Anniversary remaster...and none of this was because of the unrated cut. I read about the edits in Fangoria before seeing this in theaters, and not once did the required cuts affect my enjoyment of the movie. They still don't. I've seen the movie uncut and it's interesting, but not necessary.
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I’m not sure about current Canadian rights at the moment since for the longest time it was eOne/Alliance over here, but they’ve seem to have been losing some Miramax titles lately anyways so I believe Paramount does have worldwide rights.
eOne still has the rights in Canada, at least digitally.
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There goes hope if home video rights are included.
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Old 08-11-2021, 01:40 AM   #1220
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But seriously, how does color get that messed up? It's not like they had their own Dean Cundey fiddling about with the first Blu-ray transfer Anyone more knowledgeable than me have an answer?
I have no knowledge to give, only the basic notion that tastes change, trends change, transfer systems change, video systems change etc etc. It’s like aksing who made the sky blue: it just is. And as that old (as in, ancient) transfer was messed up in so many other ways it’s not worth dwelling on why it’s as shitty as that: it just is.
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