You guys are ignoring the impact of mobile. Do so at your peril.
Do so at our peril?
For one thing, I already posted an overall breakdown of why these crazy, mentally-challenged predictions of yours are pretty much nothing to worry about. (I'm quoting it below, in spoiler tags due to length, but expect this to be something that I quote regularly going forward when you keep pushing these concerns of yours):
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Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia
Steedeel, here is the problem with your predictions and concerns...
With the common debates on the digital vs physical media that this thread is intended for, among the talking points is often the money that each form is making (baring in mind that this does not include money being made by cable and satellite services, etc.). While physical has been in gradual decline, it still makes enough money to warrant it's continued existence.
My main concern is smaller films and such not getting physical releases, the long term ownership/access to digitally purchases content, etc. But I digress, as this is besides the point of this particular post.
The point is that whether we are talking about physical discs, digital movie/TV show purchases, digital streaming services like Netflix and Hulu, traditional broadcast TV, cable/satellite TV, movie theaters, DVD and Blu-Ray sales, etc... All of these things have one HUGE thing in common. Regardless of distribution method, they are ALL offering movies and/or TV shows in traditional common lengths, formats, and running times.
When all of these things are combined, we are talking A LOT of money being made altogether, regardless of which subset of these things is more profitable than the others.
And while with streaming services, etc., people can watch many of these things on their laptops, tablets, phones, etc., the vast majority still primarily watch these things on a television set.
While younger people/millenials are probably much more apt to watch things on their phones and the like than most older generations, most of them have still grown up in houses with TVs and so forth. They likely do both. I'm sure even millenials get together and watch movies on TVs in their homes.
Do you realize how much money all of these companies would stand to lose by abandoning traditional television and movies? In order for such a move to be worth while, short form media over portable devices would not only have to be successful, but would have to replace all of those other collective aforementioned methods of distribution and at least match if not surpass their collective profitability in order to take over. And even then, it would only mean the death of those other things would occur only if they aren't making enough money to warrant continuing to exist. Even in the **extremely unlikely** scenario that such short form, mobile-aimed content were to take over in term of being the most profitable by a wide margin, it would require all other formats and distribution methods to become extremely unprofitable to the point of not being worthwhile to support.
The evidence does not show this as being an issue. In the same time that smart phones have become common place, the average size of TVs in people's homes has vastly increased. At the same time that these companies are now looking into making short-form content, we are seeing the resurrection and revival of old TV series like Roseanne/The Conners and Murphy Brown, which are clearly not aimed at teens and 20-somethings.
I don't see this mobile-focused future ever happening anywhere near on the level that you seem to believe it will. And honestly, as extraordinarily unlikely as that is to ever happen at all, if by some off chance it were to happen, it would take decades of a gradual shift in that direction for it to occur. Most of us likely wouldn't even be alive by the time that would have even the most remote of chances of happening. So you really have nothing to worry about in terms of your preferred manner of movie viewing being threatened.
Besides, you are already a niche within a niche anyway. You game regularly on a VR headset, something that hasn't really taken over home gaming in a huge way. You have a projector for movie viewing, which is awesome, but is no where near as common as other people having a TV of some size or another to watch their movies on. Yet despite these things being niches, you still have them. I certainly don't see projectors going anywhere.
Honestly while you don't phrase it in these terms, I think on at least some level, it's less that you really think these things are going to take over to the point of you losing access to watching movies in the manner that you prefer, and instead it is more you just being really annoyed that anyone is watching content on their phones at all, even when it has no impact on you and how you view movies what-so-ever.
For another thing, even if we actually believed this to remotely be a threat, what exactly do you want or expect us to do? Panic? Run around in a circle yelling, "Shit, shit, shit!!!"? How exactly would that change anything one way or the other?
Not that I want to give too much credence to these mindbogglingly asinine concerns of yours, but in the EXTREMELY UNLIKELY event that this would come to pass, how exactly would us worrying about it now stop it? Most everyone posting in this thread, whether they prefer physical or digital, watches most of their content on televisions. Those of us who prefer physical continue to buy discs. Those buying movies digitally are still watching them on big TVs for the most part, so they aren't supporting mobile viewing in that sense. The only thing that any of us can reasonably do is continue to support content and equipment in the forms that we prefer. If the market has enough support, it will continue to exist.
This isn't like a bomb is about to go off and if we don't get out of the way, we are going to die. This is something that, if market trends were to shift in a direction to allow for it (which I highly, HIGHLY doubt will happen), would happen regardless of what any of us do, don't do, worry about, or don't worry about. I'm going to keep on buying discs like I have for years until the option to do so no longer exists or I'm dead (whichever comes first). There's isn't much else to do beyond that.
Last edited by Dynamo of Eternia; 10-26-2018 at 09:06 PM.
For one thing, I already posted an overall breakdown of why these crazy, mentally-challenged predictions of yours are pretty much nothing to worry about. (I'm quoting it below, in spoiler tags due to length, but expect this to be something that I quote regularly going forward when you keep pushing these concerns of yours):
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For another thing, even if we actually believed this to remotely be a threat, what exactly do you want or expect us to do? Panic? Run around in a circle yelling, "Shit, shit, shit!!!"? How exactly would that change anything one way or the other?
Not that I want to give too much credence to these mindbogglingly asinine concerns of yours, but in the EXTREMELY UNLIKELY event that this would come to pass, how exactly would us worrying about it now stop it? Most everyone posting in this thread, whether they prefer physical or digital, watches most of their content on televisions. Those of us who prefer physical continue to buy discs. Those buying movies digitally are still watching them on big TVs for the most part, so they aren't supporting mobile viewing in that sense. The only thing that any of us can reasonably do is continue to support content and equipment in the forms that we prefer. If the market has enough support, it will continue to exist.
This isn't like a bomb is about to go off and if we don't get out of the way, we are going to die. This is something that, if market trends were to shift in a direction to allow for it (which I highly, HIGHLY doubt will happen), would happen regardless of what any of us do, don't do, worry about, or don't worry about. I'm going to keep on buying discs like I have for years until the option to do so no longer exists or I'm dead (whichever comes first). There's isn't much else to do beyond that.
It would be the bomb going off for me and im not joking
Restricting content to viewing on mobile devices only makes no economic sense. There is no financial incentive for a content owner to restrict access in this manner. Content owners want to sell you their products and services any which way they can and they do not give a damn what device you watch it with. They just want you to pay them to watch it; it is just that simple.
AT&T has bought Time Warner and they have made no attempts to restrict access to mobile devices. And why would they? AT&T provides mobile services, satellite TV services, cable TV services, internet services, and they are now in a position to sell content across every conceivable platform, including physical media, and that is exactly what they are doing. They are not going to choke off any of these revenue streams; doing so would be counter intuitive to owning all of them in the first place.
It would be the bomb going off for me and im not joking
What I meant is that if someone were to say a literal bomb is about to go off, and if I stand there and do nothing, I will die, but if I start moving as soon as they warn me, I can get out of the way... then there is something that I can do about it.
You said "at your own peril" with regard to your silly mobile-only movie concerns, as if there is something that we should be doing differently to prevent this, but aren't. And as I pointed out, there isn't much we can do beyond continuing to support media as we currently already do.
Want has nothing to do with it. What choice would they have?
Demand has everything to do with supply, period. People want to watch content on their TVs and with their projectors and that desire IS fulfilled because there is a lot of money being made by doing so.
What I meant is that if someone were to say a literal bomb is about to go off, and if I stand there and do nothing, I will die, but if I start moving as soon as they warn me, I can get out of the way... then there is something that I can do about it.
You said "at your own peril" with regard to your silly mobile-only movie concerns, as if there is something that we should be doing differently to prevent this, but aren't. And as I pointed out, there isn't much we can do beyond continuing to support media as we currently already do.
Therefore, your statement made no sense.
The point is some film lovers have abandoned disc and they are the focus of my argument.
The point is some film lovers have abandoned disc and they are the focus of my argument.
So if I were to stop buying discs, I would be partly to blame for movie viewing being restricted to mobile devices only?
You can relax; I bought 35 titles this month, so I have done my part to save us all. No need to thank me, just doing my duty.
I am pretty certain that digital and streaming customers enjoy watching movies on their TVs and with their projectors, so you can unclinch your you know whats and relax even more.
Be it disc, digital purchase, or subscription streaming, or all of the preceding combined, people love to watch with their TVs. The demand is there and so is the supply to satisfy it.
It was the last gift my grandma got me with my folks., I keep it in my bedroom next to my bed on the right side. I have a king size bed so I'd say it's a good seven feet as I sleep on the other side of the bed, lol.
My parents bought me GOTG Vol 1, Purple Rain and a few other discs new for it. I have close to 1000 that either my dad or grandma gave me or I bought second hand at places like Half Price Books. I love listening to a good vinyl. It's nice to put on something at the end of the day and drift off to sleep. It has a nice auto lift/off feature when it runs out, so I don't have to get up and fix it.
That is sad news abut Filmstruck. It sounded like it had so much promise to be a success from the beginning. But yet it was not to be. There is a good reflection about the closure of Filmstruck & it's effects of educating film school attendants about the preservation of classic films here.
Look, someone asked me the question. It was a fair enough discussion. Distance is obviously going to be relevant when watching streaming content. The further away you are, the more it disguises the compression problems. Or do you have to take the piss out of every post now? Right bunch of comedians you lot.
Look, someone asked me the question. It was a fair enough discussion. Distance is obviously going to be relevant when watching streaming content. The further away you are, the more it disguises the compression problems. Or do you have to take the piss out of every post now? Right bunch of comedians you lot.
It was a joke. Lighten up, Francis.
Besides, when others commented about the size of their screens and how far they sit, by most reasonable measures most of them were sitting at reasonable, appropriate distances. But you still had to reply saying that everyone is sitting too far away. Maybe you sit with your face right up against the screen, but that is not normal viewing for most people.
Besides, when others commented about the size of their screens and how far they sit, by most reasonable measures most of them were sitting at reasonable, appropriate distances. But you still had to reply saying that everyone is sitting too far away. Maybe you sit with your face right up against the screen, but that is not normal viewing for most people.
A joke’s always funny when it’s on someone else, right?
Yeah, I was discussing the differences in our countries as a poster asked the question. It’s just a fact. It’s not about sitting with my nose to the screen.
A joke’s always funny when it’s on someone else, right?
You keep worrying about the most ridiculous of things ("mobile is going to take over"), keep going on and on and on and on about them, and then you get upset and wonder why you get the responses that you do.
You may as well be arguing that the Earth was created by Smurfs and we must worship them with every fiber of our being, or in the afterlife we will be eternally punished by Gargamel. That is pretty much just as absurd as many of the things that you do post.
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