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Old 01-06-2010, 02:01 PM   #1221
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Great win for Iowa, their defense was outstanding. I thought when the bowl matchups came out that Georgia Tech was the best opponent for Iowa because their front 7 could handle them and that turned out to be true.

Iowa should return almost all of their defense next year. Pat Angerer is the only senior starter they will lose, although Amari Spievey is considering going pro. They will lose a lot on offense, with 3 senior starters on the offensive line and Bryan Bulaga likely to go pro. They also lose receiver Trey Stross, who ran great routes but didn't have great hands, and tight end Tony Moeaki, but return Stanzi as well as all their running backs including Jewel Hampton, who was injured all season, and their top 3 receivers, plus their punter and kicker. They have an easier schedule next year and should be preseason top 10. Most of my friends that are Iowa fans are already talking about next year because their basketball team is one of the worst in the nation so they need something positive to think about.
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Old 01-06-2010, 03:19 PM   #1222
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Way to go Big Ten...2-0 in BCS games!

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so you're a steelers fan from FL who also likes Ohio state? do you have any affiliations to either of those places? Like grew up in pittsburgh and attended osu?
Very good question and here is your answer...My mom's side of the family have been living in Pittsburgh, well the South Park area for the longest time! My mom moved down here to FL in 1979 and my grandparents also moved down here in 1983, but the rest of the family is still living in the Pittsburgh area!

As for Ohio State, I remember watching play Notre Dame on TV when I was young and I just sticked with them ever since!

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Old 01-06-2010, 04:31 PM   #1223
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As for Ohio State, I remember watching play Notre Dame on TV when I was young and I just sticked with them ever since!
So zero affiliation, just liked it when Archie and Woody were winners Thats what I wanted to know.

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Great win for Iowa, their defense was outstanding. I thought when the bowl matchups came out that Georgia Tech was the best opponent for Iowa because their front 7 could handle them and that turned out to be true.

Iowa should return almost all of their defense next year. Pat Angerer is the only senior starter they will lose, although Amari Spievey is considering going pro. They will lose a lot on offense, with 3 senior starters on the offensive line and Bryan Bulaga likely to go pro. They also lose receiver Trey Stross, who ran great routes but didn't have great hands, and tight end Tony Moeaki, but return Stanzi as well as all their running backs including Jewel Hampton, who was injured all season, and their top 3 receivers, plus their punter and kicker. They have an easier schedule next year and should be preseason top 10. Most of my friends that are Iowa fans are already talking about next year because their basketball team is one of the worst in the nation so they need something positive to think about.
I was real happy to see Stanzi play so well, they deserved a win after how much they did this season, and it would have been terrible if they got beat after all they'd been through.

Maybe you can answer this is Klug coming back or leaving for the NFL?

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Old 01-06-2010, 04:44 PM   #1224
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Maybe you can answer this is Klug coming back or leaving for the NFL?
Klug never even considered going pro and didn't file the paperwork to see where he would likely be picked. The only Hawkeyes that talked about going pro were offensive tackle Bryan Bulaga, defensive tackle Adrian Clayborn, and cornerback Amari Spievey. Clayborn announced before (and after) the game that he would be returning. If I had to guess I'd say Bulaga will go pro. He's projected to be a late first round pick and he really didn't play that well this year so another year like this could hurt his stock. Spievey is a true mystery. He is projected as a third-fourth round pick so he could certainly help his stock by staying but he seems to want to get paid now rather than risk injury. I really can't even guess what he'll do.
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Old 01-06-2010, 04:54 PM   #1225
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You make me laugh dude getting caught up in that speed hype nonsense. Penn St and Wisky played on the same field. You would think since. they are the supposed slower teams this would really slow them down.

If you have watched all four teams like I have you would know that LSU has zero offense, poor qb play and Miami plays zero defense and has inconsistent qb play. LSU ranked 102(out of 120 teams) in total offense this season. You aren't going to beat teams like Penn St. and Wisky with teams like that. Both teams were inconsistent all season long and it showed in these games. So LSU was automatically supposed to start scoring on a perfect field on Jan. 1 against Penn St and Miami was supposed to start playing good defense and their inconsistent QB was supposed to start playing better against Wisky. Yeah right. You overrate LSU, this isn't 2007, they were not that good. Penn St. was the better team. Miami is just not there like everybody thought back in October. Wisky was the better team. I don't care what kind of field these games were played on.

You sound like freaking Mark May with all of this speed talk. Speed doesn't mean a whole lot when you don't have a good qb and neither LSU or Miami have one. Speed also doesn't matter when you don't play defense and Miami doesn't play it well at all. Penn St and Wisky both play good solid defense.
Hey supersix4 this guy can't be serious, can he? I guess he just likes to get a rise out of us.

You question the amount of time that I have watched college football? I guarantee you there are very few people on this message board that watch and research football as much as I do, trust me, I know my stuff.

Anyone that knows what they are talking about when it comes to football can tell you that both LSU and Miami are much quicker/faster than their bowl counterparts. Had the field conditions been better both would have won, hands down. It's not right that the field was in such piss poor condition, and it cost the better teams the victory. (As well as Cooper a fairly high draft pick) Prior to the bowl game, Penn State has played NOBODY out of conference, and they lucked out with the field otherwise they would have had another situation like the Rose Bowl last year where they were completely outplayed. Miami is one of the youngest teams in the nation with an unbelievable level of youthful talent who on any other field would have beat the Badgers, there is no denying that on any level. Wisconsin got very lucky just like Penn State.
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Old 01-06-2010, 05:33 PM   #1226
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Hey supersix4 this guy can't be serious, can he? I guess he just likes to get a rise out of us.

You question the amount of time that I have watched college football? I guarantee you there are very few people on this message board that watch and research football as much as I do, trust me, I know my stuff.

Anyone that knows what they are talking about when it comes to football can tell you that both LSU and Miami are much quicker/faster than their bowl counterparts. Had the field conditions been better both would have won, hands down. It's not right that the field was in such piss poor condition, and it cost the better teams the victory. (As well as Cooper a fairly high draft pick) Prior to the bowl game, Penn State has played NOBODY out of conference, and they lucked out with the field otherwise they would have had another situation like the Rose Bowl last year where they were completely outplayed. Miami is one of the youngest teams in the nation with an unbelievable level of youthful talent who on any other field would have beat the Badgers, there is no denying that on any level. Wisconsin got very lucky just like Penn State.
lol I ignore list incompetence its not worth arguing, but yeah I was actually shocked both teams kept it respectable given that neither play style is slow paced and grind it out. Even if LSU's offense is terrible that just makes the Penn State D look worse given that LSU was winning going into the final PSU drive.

Also that final kickoff that Trindon broke he couldn't accelerate the same through that final level to get a td, but instead got to the 40.

To say that disaster field didn't affect a guy who can run the 100 yard dash in 10 seconds is just speechless lol.

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Old 01-06-2010, 05:52 PM   #1227
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fatediesel, how does Hawkeye nation feel about Vandenberg? I was very impressed by him during the Ohio State game, he certainly made some mistakes but he is very young. I think you guys may have a star of the future with this kid.
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Old 01-06-2010, 06:28 PM   #1228
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fatediesel, how does Hawkeye nation feel about Vandenberg? I was very impressed by him during the Ohio State game, he certainly made some mistakes but he is very young. I think you guys may have a star of the future with this kid.
I agree, I was pulling so hard for him to come in and beat them
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Old 01-06-2010, 07:51 PM   #1229
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fatediesel, how does Hawkeye nation feel about Vandenberg? I was very impressed by him during the Ohio State game, he certainly made some mistakes but he is very young. I think you guys may have a star of the future with this kid.
People like the potential of Vandenberg but they aren't sold on him. He was just awful in the Northwestern game, one of the worst performances I've ever seen, but it's tough to come off the bench in your first game against a tough team when you didn't expect to play. Still, you could see the fear in his eyes and his throws were awful. He wasn't much better against Minnesota, a 12-0 snoozefest where he had 117 yards, 0 tds, and a pick, but he was solid against Ohio State, a game where he could have easily given up after Stross' drops and 3 interceptions. Fans are excited that Stanzi has another year but are confident that Vandenberg will be a successful replacement.
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Tomorrow night is the big game! Who do you guys like to win it? Texas or Bama? I think the current line is a 4 point edge to Bama. These past two seasons have taken me back to my youth, when Bama was in the top 10 every year and Bear Bryant was a God among men in this state.
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Tomorrow night is the big game! Who do you guys like to win it? Texas or Bama? I think the current line is a 4 point edge to Bama. These past two seasons have taken me back to my youth, when Bama was in the top 10 every year and Bear Bryant was a God among men in this state.
I'll be rooting for Bama but just want a good game.
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Tomorrow night is the big game! Who do you guys like to win it? Texas or Bama? I think the current line is a 4 point edge to Bama. These past two seasons have taken me back to my youth, when Bama was in the top 10 every year and Bear Bryant was a God among men in this state.
Alabama will pull away in the fourth quarter and win by about two touchdowns or so, the Crimson Tide is the better team.
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Old 01-06-2010, 08:41 PM   #1233
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Hey supersix4 this guy can't be serious, can he? I guess he just likes to get a rise out of us.

You question the amount of time that I have watched college football? I guarantee you there are very few people on this message board that watch and research football as much as I do, trust me, I know my stuff.

Anyone that knows what they are talking about when it comes to football can tell you that both LSU and Miami are much quicker/faster than their bowl counterparts. Had the field conditions been better both would have won, hands down. It's not right that the field was in such piss poor condition, and it cost the better teams the victory. (As well as Cooper a fairly high draft pick) Prior to the bowl game, Penn State has played NOBODY out of conference, and they lucked out with the field otherwise they would have had another situation like the Rose Bowl last year where they were completely outplayed. Miami is one of the youngest teams in the nation with an unbelievable level of youthful talent who on any other field would have beat the Badgers, there is no denying that on any level. Wisconsin got very lucky just like Penn State.
Like I said to your homie. Stop making excuses as to why LSU and Miami lost. Are you freaking kidding me with this field nonsense. My god I forgot that Miami and LSU were so dominant this season. They didn't lose a game playing on a normal field, did they? Give me a break with the excuses. If these teams are good enough and talented enough then it shouldn't matter what field they are playing on. They got beat by better teams not because the condition of the field. Penn St. and Wisky played on those same fields. There is and never really has been nothing that either LSU or Miami showed me all year that would indicate they are better than any of the top 4, 5 teams in the Big 10. You say that Penn St played NOBODY out of conference well neither did LSU so your point is irrelevant there. LSU's offense was atrocious this season and they would have not played any better had that field been in perfect condition.

I don't care about Miami's unbelievable youthful talent, they were overrated by everyone including a lot of people on this board. Wisky always performs well in bowl games and tends to get better deeper in the season and they pretty much dominated Miami throughout. Miami has an inconsistent qb and that showed in the 2nd half of the season and the bowl game. You continue to ignore these facts and instead want to whine and cry about the freaking field. Penn St. and Wisky were better.

And yeah I do question the amount of time you watch college football if you don't know that LSU is offensively challenged and Miami turned out to be not as good as everyone thought they were in October. I hope that you realized those two facts. If you didn't then yeah you haven't been watching the same college football I watched this season. I love how you need someone else to validate that you know something about college football and puff your chest out but that doesn't mean anything to me.

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I can't remember the last time someone blamed a loss on 'the field'. Good stuff.
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I can't remember the last time someone blamed a loss on 'the field'. Good stuff.
Nobodys saying they lost because of the field, what was said was that it was a disaster for teams that NOW heres the important part ARE SPEED TEAMS. Maybe you aren't a follower of the bowls but let me see you run 100 yards in 10 seconds in the 4th quarter in this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcOF5NHKpo8


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The field was a mess. There's no arguing that.

It had an affect on the game. There's no arguing that.

But everyone was equally affected. All 4 teams had fast players slowed down by the field.

I'm just glad Miami lost because, really, who needs Miami.

All this "I've watched way more football than you" talk is playground and irrelevant. A nerd from Georgia Tech could tell you that field was bad.
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But everyone was equally affected. All 4 teams had fast players slowed down by the field.
While thats true do you not agree Big10 teams are built to grind out and are typically slower then a Miami/LSU

I agree I'm sure all teams had "fast players" that got hurt by it, but when its not you're philosophy it hurts even more.

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All this "I've watched way more football than you" talk is playground and irrelevant. A nerd from Georgia Tech could tell you that field was bad.
lol and that nerd could probably run the option better then they did
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Like I said to your homie. Stop making excuses as to why LSU and Miami lost. Are you freaking kidding me with this field nonsense. My god I forgot that Miami and LSU were so dominant this season. They didn't lose a game playing on a normal field, did they? Give me a break with the excuses. If these teams are good enough and talented enough then it shouldn't matter what field they are playing on. They got beat by better teams not because the condition of the field. Penn St. and Wisky played on those same fields. There is and never really has been nothing that either LSU or Miami showed me all year that would indicate they are better than any of the top 4, 5 teams in the Big 10. You say that Penn St played NOBODY out of conference well neither did LSU so your point is irrelevant there. LSU's offense was atrocious this season and they would have not played any better had that field been in perfect condition.

I don't care about Miami's unbelievable youthful talent, they were overrated by everyone including a lot of people on this board. Wisky always performs well in bowl games and tends to get better deeper in the season and they pretty much dominated Miami throughout. Miami has an inconsistent qb and that showed in the 2nd half of the season and the bowl game. You continue to ignore these facts and instead want to whine and cry about the freaking field. Penn St. and Wisky were better.

And yeah I do question the amount of time you watch college football if you don't know that LSU is offensively challenged and Miami turned out to be not as good as everyone thought they were in October. I hope that you realized those two facts. If you didn't then yeah you haven't been watching the same college football I watched this season. I love how you need someone else to validate that you know something about college football and puff your chest out but that doesn't mean anything to me.
I really don't think that you honestly feel Penn State is better than LSU and that Wisconsin is better than Miami. You and I both know that it simply is not true. You can deny it all you want, but the fact of the matter is that the field did cost both teams the game because it negated their vastly superior speed, which both use significantly in their game plans. You say LSU has a weak offense, which is true but they also have a ton of speed within the running game that was a non-issue because of the field. From top to bottom Miami is a better team than Wisconsin straight up. It's funny, I was talking to a coworker on Monday who is a casual sports fan, and he told me before I could say anything that he feels the NCAA shouldn't have allowed either of that games to happen because it immediately becomes unfair for the faster team. He's right, and he doesn't even follow football that closely. You could learn something from him bootsy.


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I'm just glad Miami lost because, really, who needs Miami.
A lot of people need Miami, obviously we fans of The U are very happy to see Miami on the comeback trail. Secondly, Miami is one of the traditional football powerhouses. College football is just a better sport with Miami annually in the top fifteen.
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But everyone was equally affected.
They couldn't possibly be EQUALLY affected unless both teams had the exact same play styles (and players for that matter) and both teams always played on the exact same styles of fields. If one team had more experience playing in soft grass or mud, they wouldn't be nearly as affected as a team that almost always played on well maintained fields. There are tons of variables that may have helped one team do better in poor field conditions than the other. That's like saying the Miami Hurricanes and the Nebraska Cornhuskers would be equally affected by a snow storm. Obviously the snow would have a greater effect on Miami.
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I really don't think that you honestly feel Penn State is better than LSU and that Wisconsin is better than Miami. You and I both know that it simply is not true. You can deny it all you want, but the fact of the matter is that the field did cost both teams the game because it negated their vastly superior speed, which both use significantly in their game plans. You say LSU has a weak offense, which is true but they also have a ton of speed within the running game that was a non-issue because of the field. From top to bottom Miami is a better team than Wisconsin straight up. It's funny, I was talking to a coworker on Monday who is a casual sports fan, and he told me before I could say anything that he feels the NCAA shouldn't have allowed either of that games to happen because it immediately becomes unfair for the faster team. He's right, and he doesn't even follow football that closely. You could learn something from him bootsy.
Lol I forgot I can read when someone quotes. But yeah they won they were the better teams that day in the rain, but to ignore the field for teams that are KNOWN KNOWN for having speed first philosophies and saying that didn't matter is laughable, and frankly not worth arguing if someone can't get to the simplest of facts or acknowledge them.


But back to college football news

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4798375

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Texas Tech athletics department spokesman Chris Cook said Tuesday that Tuberville was expected to meet with university and athletic department administrators.
I heard on the radio today that people think Tuberville while it would help TT in the short term would just be using TT as a stepping stone.

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