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Old 01-26-2015, 12:36 PM   #13041
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2 of yall group or 2 that you have heard about? The Husk of the pit still dosent look like it would be any good when leveled up with the Crux.
Ken shot us link yesterday on the Crux. Evidently there is only a slight chance it will drop, and only for those with the new glowhoo shader, meaning it won't drop for first-time Crota victors.

http://planetdestiny.com/crux-of-crota-necrochasm-drop/

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LVL 33 enimies, loads of yellow bar guys, more thrawl, more boomers. F hard mode.
I'm beginning to feel the same. This "hard" mode (and raid, in general) is just laziness on Bungie's part when you compare it to the VoG. It's not fun at all. Crota is near-impossible to beat in hard mode unless you have a team of 32's that have played together enough to know their exact roles, and are equipped with the proper weapons. Evan normal Crota is not something to tackle when you don't have the proper weapons. This was all too apparent yesterday when we attempted it, and only a couple people had tracking RLs.

I would love to have a set team of six to run the raid multiple times per week, so that a team chemistry could be built. Unfortunately with everyone having a different schedule, that's extremely difficult to set-up on any sort of regular frequency. Tackling hard Crota with anything less (and with anything less than 4-5 tracking RLs, 20-30 heav ammo synths each, 2 Titans and preferably a skilled Hunter swordsman) is just asking for disappointment.

That, or I just suck at this game.

Edit: Just read this over at Redditt. Pretty-well sums-up hard Crota...and funny!

[Show spoiler]Crota here.

Good news! Bungie patched my arthritis/knee glitch for Hard Mode and I'm finally able to stand up again. And since Guardians can no longer cheese me, its time for us to cheese some Guardians!

I'll be on XBL all weekend cheesing Guardians, and I'll have plenty of open fireteam slots for any level 33 Hive looking for some easy loot drops. I have the HM CE Guardian checkpoint on all 3 toons. We are going to be exploiting a long list of known glitches to cheese Guardians, so minimal playing skill is required. Just join up and get your loot drops.

First, a few ground rules. I'm only taking level 33's. Don't even message me if you're 32. Why? Well because it's a level 32 raid and Guardians are capped at level 32. So, we’ll just be 33, get a damage buff and we’ll take 30% less damage. I mean, LOL, right? I know, I can't believe we’re getting away with this either. The level designers really don’t like Guardians.

Secondly, anyone who suggests we "just kill the Guardians legit" is getting insta-booted from fireteam and GT blocked. No exceptions. We're not doing it legit, this is purely payback for making the last month of my life hell in normal mode. Damn cheaters, sword flying across my bridge, going to orbit when I'm kneeling... We'll show them some cheese. Anyway, I need the following players:

lvl 33 Gatekeeper:
You're basically just here to troll the Guardians who used to go camp the middle room. At first I was going to just close the door when I first enter the fight, but I think this is way funnier. You are invulnerable to everything but a sword, so you can basically phone this one in. edit My neighbor's 5-year old daughter volunteered for this role, so I don't need anyone else atm. She just keeps pushing the RT button randomly, so I figure she's perfect for this role.

lvl 33 Sword-bearer:
Your role here is crucial. The only way I can die is if the Guardians' timing is pretty much perfect. So your job is to TOTALLY F**K their timing. If Guardians are left, run right. If Guardians are right, run left. If they're in the center, just go hide or stay in the doorway or something. If you can buy me 20 seconds, then I can run to one side after their first sword attack & prevent a 2nd attack, and if we do that a couple times, it's almost mathematically impossible for us to lose. Also, on occasion, we’re going to not spawn you using a known glitch. I mean hey, they can’t kill me if you don’t spawn and die, right? LOL. There is one more glitch you can utilize, and that’s the vaporizing sword trick. Before you come out, grab the prop sword made of paper mache, and when it drops, it will just turn to dust. And then hilarity ensues!

lvl 33 Hallowed Knights:
Listen carefully, I know you’re technically supposed to be restricted to your "boomer tower" only. Not anymore. There's a glitch that allows you to basically warp down onto the bridge. And since you're a 33, you can literally 2-shot the sword-carrier Guardian. Titan class Guardians will try to put their stupid bubbles around you in your tower so you can't shoot the sword-carrier. If that happens, try and cheese: glitch down onto the bridge and shoot the sword-carrier in the back. This one is real funny

lvl 33 Thrall:
I don't typically speak to thrall. Whatever, join or don't, you guys are worthless. I mean seriously. I give you guys one simple task! Kill 6 Guardians who can't double-jump or sprint in a PITCH BLACK MAZE. Oh and by the way, you outlevel them and you outnumber them about 1,000:6. I swear I'd kick you all from the clan and we'd be no worse off. Obviously after the Abyss debacle, you can’t help me here. You idiots do more harm than good at the Guardian checkpoint; soaking up bullets from Red Death, giving health back to Guardians. Just hide or something! sigh Tell you what. If you’re a thrall, I want you to run into the crystal room while they’re standing on the outside ledge and bite the guardians through the closed windows. The windows are glitched so you can literally bite and claw them THROUGH the closed window. That’s the only possible way you can be useful. Just don't bring any ammo and try not to turn into an orb of light or a heavy ammo drop please.

Lvl 33 Acolytes & Hallowed Knights:
You’ll stand outside of the crystal room as I’m spawning and shoot into the crystal room. Knights; please remember to glitch through the closed windows before they open. And everyone, make sure to empty your heavy ammo before the fight starts so you don’t drop any when you die.

Lvl 33 Ogres:
You are programmed to spawn after the 2nd and 4th sword disappears, but we can have a little fun with you guys. There is a glitch we can exploit that will spawn you after only the 1st sword, and then again after the 2nd. That’s always disorienting for Guardians. Not many other glitches for you guys, but hey, you’re a full level above the guardians, they can’t regen health, you’re Hive Majors, and YOUR FACE IS A FRIGGIN GATLING GUN.

Alright. Now even though the Guardians can’t regen health and you’re a FULL LEVEL above them, I don’t expect you to stop them from tearing through you and smacking me with our own swords. Fortunately for all of us, you are talking to the cheese master. They say “the moon is made of cheese.” Well that’s because I live here.

Take a look at my new hat!
http://i.imgur.com/zG3Hz0D.jpg

So here’s what I’m gonna do. I have a whole plethora of cheeses & glitches that I'm going to take advantage of to kill some Guardians. I'll detail a few of them here so everyone knows how the Guardian fight is going to work.

Server Timing glitches:
I’m going to basically mess with the timers on all my actions by using the standby function on my router. So normally a blade-dancer, if timed right, can get 4 sword smashes on me when my shield is down. Well I can press “standby” and my shield comes back in just two hits. Since it takes 18 hits to kill me, if they only get 2 hits per attack, its basically impossible for them to win. I can literally do this all night. Like literally, the Guardians will have to sign off and try again the next day. I can sustain this glitch for hours. Seriously this Rambo clown and his friends spent like 2 hours, two nights in a row getting cheesed by this glitch. I did the glitch the ENTIRE night! They literally gave up, TWICE! They came back the next day and tried instancing on European servers to avoid this cheese, lololololol!

Here’s a gif of Rambo trying to pwn me only to discover my shield is back in half the time, LOL!
http://i.imgur.com/0IEfXfW.gif

Movement timer glitch:
As implied, I can also glitch my movement timer. This one is harder to pull off but I can still do this cheese every few attempts. Basically what’s going to happen is the Guardians are going to down the sword-bearer in like 10 seconds, which would normally give them time for 2 or even 3 sword attacks with that single sword, but I’m going to start running to the other side after the first sword attack. I run a 40 yard dash in like 1.5 seconds, so they can’t possibly get a 2nd sword attack in before it disappears.

No-kneel glitch:
One of my most common cheese moves is via the “ignore-aggro/no kneel” glitch. Traditionally, I am bound by the rules of most bosses in terms of drawing aggro. Rockets hit me, I put my hand up to cover my eyes, then my shield comes off and I kneel to regroup. But I’m not retarded. I’ve done this a few times. I know what’s going on here. Those jerks on the ledge are trying to draw my aggro while the guy carrying the ONE WEAPON that can hurt me sneaks in behind me when my shield is down. Well I’ve discovered an loophole in the coding that allows me to not-kneel when my shield comes off and ignore the aggro that the rocket guys are trying to draw, then I’m free to unleash hell on the sword-carrier while I’m under heavy rocket fire.

Watch this Rambo guy get pwnd when he thinks I’m about to kneel. They saw my shield come off, they thought they timed it perfect, but all they got was a mouthful of cheese! LOL

Insta-kill glitches:
I’m also working on some new “insta-pwn” glitch moves. There are quite a few of them. I like to combine them with my fast-stand-up/instant-stomp glitch and wipe out the sword-carrier. I’ve also got a super-death-laser that can be glitched to 1-hit a sword carrier. Check this out:

So basically that’s my plan. If somehow, somebody manages to circumvent my cheeses, the coding requires that I give them something. In which case I've had our seamstress knit up a few thousand glow-in-the-dark shaders so the Guardians will be easier to see in the dark, and probably easier to see in Crucible. That way they can kill each other off and save me the trouble. I've got a few ugly ships that no Hive want that I can throw their way too...

Here's the best part; most of these Guardians are hoping for something they call the "Crux of Crota." It's not a literal object. It's just a figure of speech; My glitches are the literal "crux of Crota." L-O-friggen-L!

Msg "Crota" on XBL if you want to help with the cheese

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Old 01-26-2015, 12:44 PM   #13042
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Ken shot us link yesterday on the Crux. Evidently there is only a slight chance it will drop, and only for those with the new glowhoo shader, meaning it won't drop for first-time Crota victors.

http://planetdestiny.com/crux-of-crota-necrochasm-drop/
I actually thought of that last night, I swapped the shader to my guy that hadn't beat it to see if I'd still get the shader or something else.
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Old 01-26-2015, 12:56 PM   #13043
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I actually thought of that last night, I swapped the shader to my guy that hadn't beat it to see if I'd still get the shader or something else.
I don't think you actually need to have it equipped. It just needs to be in your inventory...but who knows with Bungie. Better to be safe and equip it.
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Old 01-26-2015, 01:27 PM   #13044
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I still haven't gotten a Vex
I got a wonderful invite to do hard Saturday afternoon. (Thx guys).

Anyways I got it from Atheon. I have done Atheon 2x on hard have 2 helmets and 1 vex from it. Also Vex is awesome btw. Got a bunch of ascendant energies too which I needed.
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Old 01-26-2015, 01:35 PM   #13045
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I got a wonderful invite to do hard Saturday afternoon. (Thx guys).

Anyways I got it from Atheon. I have done Atheon 2x on hard have 2 helmets and 1 vex from it. Also Vex is awesome btw. Got a bunch of ascendant energies too which I needed.
Congrats, man! I've probably done it about 15 times and have gotten 5 helmets, 5 sparrows, and 4 ships. I don't think I'll ever get the Vex.
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Old 01-26-2015, 01:40 PM   #13046
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i still need to finish crota hard tonight. i'll be on at 530central and have the cp if anyone wants to join.

got up to crota with a random group. I don't think it's really that hard once you know what to do. middle strategy seems best.

i got the oversoul edict pulse rifle. not bad with the full auto and arc burn on a primary . i wonder if hive disrupter perk on the new weapons applies to crota's shield??

ive never gotten the mythoclast and have completed vog hard about 8 times.

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Old 01-26-2015, 01:48 PM   #13047
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Congrats, man! I've probably done it about 15 times and have gotten 5 helmets, 5 sparrows, and 4 ships. I don't think I'll ever get the Vex.
Saturday gave me. Helmet, Vex, and a ship. Plus I got like 18 energies from the run. I thought it was awesome run. If I would have gotten Fatebringer, it would have been perfect. But probably would result in me getting material from every engram decrypt for the rest of my life though.

I really havent done VOG much so I appreciate the directions from everyone. But as always dont die is the main thing.

Everyone with maxed ice breakers/HMG takes Atheon down easy.

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Old 01-26-2015, 01:49 PM   #13048
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Old 01-26-2015, 01:56 PM   #13049
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More damage, bad recoil, small ammo clip.
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Old 01-26-2015, 02:37 PM   #13050
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Saturday gave me. Helmet, Vex, and a ship. Plus I got like 18 energies from the run. I thought it was awesome run. If I would have gotten Fatebringer, it would have been perfect. But probably would result in me getting material from every engram decrypt for the rest of my life though.

I really havent done VOG much so I appreciate the directions from everyone. But as always dont die is the main thing.

Everyone with maxed ice breakers/HMG takes Atheon down easy.
I got a Gjallahorn from a legendary engram at the end of September. I wonder if that is the reason I don't get anything anymore.
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found this on reddit: new lyrics to thriller


It's Crota's End time

And something evil's lurkin' in the dark

Within the Hellmouth

You see a sight that almost stops your heart

You hear a shriek

The Weight of Darkness fallin' on your raid team

Your knees are weak

As Crota looks you right between the eyes

You're paralyzed

'Cause this is Thraller!

Thraller night!

And no-one's gonna save ya from the Hollowed Acolytes!

You know it's Thraller!

Thraller night!

You're fighting for your life inside a

Brawler

Thraller

Tonight!
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Old 01-26-2015, 02:53 PM   #13052
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I should be on can help with chocolatejas psn JOakman8
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Old 01-26-2015, 02:57 PM   #13053
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HARD RAID WEEK OF 1/27-2/2

seeing if anyone is going to be interested in putting an experineced group together for Hard Ctota end this week. 32s needed!
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I got a Gjallahorn from a legendary engram at the end of September. I wonder if that is the reason I don't get anything anymore.
Thats how I got Ghorn too.
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Old 01-26-2015, 03:15 PM   #13055
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HARD RAID WEEK OF 1/27-2/2

seeing if anyone is going to be interested in putting an experineced group together for Hard Ctota end this week. 32s needed!
oakman
mike
jason
lizard
ken
ric

Here is our 6, I can't quit you Destiny

I think this group has promise, when is a good time for everyone?
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Old 01-26-2015, 03:22 PM   #13056
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I'm readily available after 9pm eastern if I'm not on you can always shoot me a message via PSN or this thread and I will get on my phone. We should have one hunter that can run sword with invisible, one Titan bubble and everyone have maxed out weapons, especially snipers and rockets
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Benny/Kyle/Mega/Stuck are we still on for Tuesday 9/9:30est Crota? Hard or Normal?
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Old 01-26-2015, 03:26 PM   #13058
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I'm readily available after 9pm eastern if I'm not on you can always shoot me a message via PSN or this thread and I will get on my phone. We should have one hunter that can run sword with invisible, one Titan bubble and everyone have maxed out weapons, especially snipers and rockets
Yeah, were good there. All of us have several characters, I have 1 of each all 32. I will start a list for 9 EST Wednesday
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Old 01-26-2015, 03:30 PM   #13059
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Wednesday - Crota - Hard @ 9EST

1) Lizard
2) Ric
3) Mike
4) Ken
5) Oakman
6) Jason
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Benny/Kyle/Mega/Stuck are we still on for Tuesday 9/9:30est Crota? Hard or Normal?
i'm down to give it a go. my little brother may join us as well.....he's a 31 though. so he'll have to hang back out of harm's way if we can make it to Crota.
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