The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[bmore007]

My set came today and I popped in disc 1 of Fellowship. Doesn't look as bad as some people are complaining about.

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by bmore007

My set came today and I popped in disc 1 of Fellowship. Doesn't look as bad as some people are complaining about.

Just wait till you get to Moria.

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[42041]

What's wrong with Moria?
I'm not sure what black crush people are talking about, I'm not intimately familiar with the previous transfers but I saw everything just fine.

[Agent Bond]

I want to get the Theatrical Cuts on BD and possibly get rid of the previous sets so how do I get all the special features? Are all the Theatrical Cuts releases have the special features from before or does the Extended Edition this time have everything. in other words what do I need to keep to have all the special features?

I double dipped and got the Theatrical boxset because the extras on those were NOT ported over to the Extended Editions.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by 42041

What's wrong with Moria?
I'm not sure what black crush people are talking about, I'm not intimately familiar with the previous transfers but I saw everything just fine.

Black crush means that the picture is so dark that certain parts of the image have absolutely no detail and there are even problems with noise in those aforementioned parts.

[WorkShed]

Originally Posted by 42041

What's wrong with Moria?
I'm not sure what black crush people are talking about, I'm not intimately familiar with the previous transfers but I saw everything just fine.

Again, if you think Fellowship of the Ring looks perfect, watch The Two Towers immediately after. Your jaw hits the floor and you get angry that Fellowship doesn't look like that.

There's so many people here that say the teal push doesn't exist and that the contrast is perfect. It isn't. The other two films look so much better in comparison. There is a problem, but I don't know if Jackson is all that aware of the issue or cares since he is in continuing production for The Hobbit and now Tintin.

[makinbiscuits]

Originally Posted by bmore007

My set came today and I popped in disc 1 of Fellowship. Doesn't look as bad as some people are complaining about.

it doesn't look bad but the two towers looks a lot better. That is what's causing the major gripe I think.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by WorkShed

Again, if you think Fellowship of the Ring looks perfect, watch The Two Towers immediately after. Your jaw hits the floor and you get angry that Fellowship doesn't look like that.

There's so many people here that say the teal push doesn't exist and that the contrast is perfect. It isn't. The other two films look so much better in comparison. There is a problem, but I don't know if Jackson is all that aware of the issue or cares since he is in continuing production for The Hobbit and now Tintin.

With the extended movies, Two Towers and Return of the King are very good transfers, but they do contain just a slight amount of edge enhancement (King in particular) which I don't like. Some scenes can just look a wee bit too processed for my taste. Again, it's slight, but at times visible. Fellowship, on the other hand, while perhaps not as "sharp" looking actually looks more natural and film-like to me as it's a newer transfer and has essentially none of that excessive processing applied to it. Also, keep in mind the source material for Fellowship is different than the other two movies - it was made differently. Fellowship has a number of scenes with gorgeous color and contrast though.

[BLeClair12]

Took the advice of several in this thread and ordered the set a couple of days ago. It arrived yesterday. $7.59 out of pocket after some Amazon trade-in credit. Man, what a beauty. I've got a backlog of stuff to watch, but I'd like to get to these relatively soon.

Planning on seeing how it goes with watching them in one sitting, but I may split each film into two parts based on the disks.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by BLeClair12

Took the advice of several in this thread and ordered the set a couple of days ago. It arrived yesterday. $7.59 out of pocket after some Amazon trade-in credit. Man, what a beauty. I've got a backlog of stuff to watch, but I'd like to get to these relatively soon.

Planning on seeing how it goes with watching them in one sitting, but I may split each film into two parts based on the disks.

I always like to watch a long epic saga over the Christmas break. I think I'll either watch this set or maybe Nolan's Batman films this year.

[42041]

Originally Posted by WorkShed

Again, if you think Fellowship of the Ring looks perfect, watch The Two Towers immediately after. Your jaw hits the floor and you get angry that Fellowship doesn't look like that.

There's so many people here that say the teal push doesn't exist and that the contrast is perfect. It isn't. The other two films look so much better in comparison. There is a problem, but I don't know if Jackson is all that aware of the issue or cares since he is in continuing production for The Hobbit and now Tintin.

That's the thing though... it's less bright, but I don't think it's a less enjoyable presentation. In fact, I'd rate the visual appeal of the transfers as ROTK > FOTR > TT, the latter of which is rather inconsistent, has post-production DNR smearing in many scenes, and tends to have a pretty drab color design. I guess having a Kuro plasma helps with dark stuff.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by 42041

That's the thing though... it's less bright, but I don't think it's a less enjoyable presentation. In fact, I'd rate the visual appeal of the transfers as ROTK > FOTR > TT. I guess having a Kuro plasma helps with dark stuff.

Wait a sec. You're saying FOTR looks better than TT? Bollocks.

[42041]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Wait a sec. You're saying FOTR looks better than TT? Bollocks.

Yep, considerably so. I think the green tint complaints are bollocks

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by 42041

Yep, considerably so. I think the green tint complaints are bollocks

You can throw the green tint issue out and the black crush still hurts FOTR. There's hardly anything wrong with the TT transfer.

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by 42041

Yep, considerably so. I think the green tint complaints are bollocks

The second breakfast scene is atrocious.

[42041]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

You can throw the green tint issue out and the black crush still hurts FOTR. There's hardly anything wrong with the TT transfer.

I really don't think it does I don't have the DVDs or original blu-rays on hand to compare, but I haven't really seen evidence that any scene has been compromised by black crush, ie, where the detail is completely missing rather than just pushed further into the shadows.
All I can say is that I was more impressed by Fellowship than TT. Its transfer may be fine in that it conveys the theatrical appearance, but it's just not a great looking movie overall, IMO.

[retablo]

Originally Posted by WorkShed

Again, if you think Fellowship of the Ring looks perfect, watch The Two Towers immediately after. Your jaw hits the floor and you get angry that Fellowship doesn't look like that.

There's so many people here that say the teal push doesn't exist and that the contrast is perfect. It isn't. The other two films look so much better in comparison. There is a problem, but I don't know if Jackson is all that aware of the issue or cares since he is in continuing production for The Hobbit and now Tintin.

They look "different" because 70-80% of Fellowship was processed through normal photochemical developing, while the entirety of the other 2 films were done as a full DI. And there's nothing that can ever be done to change that.

[Xtempo]

Originally Posted by Agent Bond

I double dipped and got the Theatrical boxset because the extras on those were NOT ported over to the Extended Editions.

what theatrical BD release has all the features? this? or this ?? or are there any other releases?

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by Xtempo

what theatrical BD release has all the features? this? or this ?? or are there any other releases?

The first link has all the Theatrical special features, the 2nd is just for the movies.

This is the same as the first, exccept it as a lenticular cover and comes with $5 towards the Hobbit in theatres. Plus it's cheaper:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Lord-Of-Th...creen/21907401

[gettodamoofies]

Originally Posted by 42041

Yep, considerably so. I think the green tint complaints are bollocks

Originally Posted by 42041

I really don't think it does I don't have the DVDs or original blu-rays on hand to compare, but I haven't really seen evidence that any scene has been compromised by black crush, ie, where the detail is completely missing rather than just pushed further into the shadows.
All I can say is that I was more impressed by Fellowship than TT. Its transfer may be fine in that it conveys the theatrical appearance, but it's just not a great looking movie overall, IMO.

Well there's this shot:



That shows a significant portion of detail on the cave now gone due to crushed blacks.

Now the next link you may be familiar with, unless of course someone over at AVS is posting with exactly the same username you are here. Assuming that is you, 17 months ago you posted a comparison between the FOTR transfer and the flasbacks to FOTR footage featured in ROTK.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1307189/th...#post_20667855

Both your "bollocks" tint and crushed blacks are really obvious. Detail of the wraith cloaks (folds, arms) gets lost in crushed blacks while mist turns from grey to teal. The numerous shots of the forest also show both issues - sunlight streaming through the trees is dull, whites are non-existent in any shot and detail of Boromir's clothing is lost.

So are you saying that you aren't seeing the difference in your own screenshots?

As for the whole "it's the way Peter Jackson always wanted it" argument, while I can certainly buy that some corrections were needed (not all the film was processed in the same way the last two were - I seem to recall a 60% figure having been bandied about) IF that were the case then ROTK's footage should have also been corrected yes? After all, if Peter Jackson was afforded the opportunity to re-tint an entire film surely he would have been able to replace those few shots of flashbacks with the "correct" footage...