SPECTRE Review Thread

[The Fallen Deity]

Here's a question for everyone:

What's everyone's favourite Bond film from each era?

For me it goes:

Sean Connery: Goldfinger

George Lazenby: On Her Majesty's Secret Service (obviously )

Roger Moore: The Spy Who Loved Me

Timothy Dalton: The Living Daylights

Pierce Brosnan: GoldenEye

Daniel Craig: Casino Royale (so far)

[LordCrumb]

Wow Batista is in this too?!! Dude is on a roll!

I really hope I enjoy this more than Skyfall.. I found that quite boring.

[Mahatma]

Originally Posted by The Fallen Deity

Here's a question for everyone:

What's everyone's favourite Bond film from each era?

Mine goes like this:

Sean Connery: Goldfinger

George Lazenby: On Her Majesty's Secret Service (obviously )

Roger Moore: The Spy Who Loved Me

Timothy Dalton: The Living Daylights

Pierce Brosnan: GoldenEye

Daniel Craig: Casino Royale (so far)

Sean Connery: Dr No (From russia with love is a better movie,but love Dr No.Great acting all round there)

Roger Moore:For your eyes only by a country mile.

Dalton&Brosnan:Hated the movies they were in,so no nominations there.

Daniel Craig:Skyfall.

[dallywhitty]

Connery: Dr. No
Lazenby: On Her Majesty's Secret Service (an obvious choice but this is my all-time favourite Bond film)
Moore: For Your Eyes Only
Dalton: Licence to Kill
Brosnan: Tomorrow Never Dies
Craig: Casino Royale

[The Fallen Deity]

Originally Posted by Mahatma

Sean Connery: Dr No (From russia with love is a better movie,but love Dr No.Great acting all round there)

Roger Moore:For your eyes only by a country mile.

Dalton&Brosnan:Hated the movies they were in,so no nominations there.

Daniel Craig:Skyfall.

No love for GoldenEye?

[Mahatma]

Originally Posted by The Fallen Deity

No love for GoldenEye?

Nope.Heard good things about the video game though...

[pEgLeG]

Originally Posted by Mahatma

Nope.Heard good things about the video game though...

I don't know if it still holds up, but it used to consume most of me and my friends' spare time.

[SymbioticFunction]

Originally Posted by pEgLeG

I don't know if it still holds up, but it used to consume most of me and my friends' spare time.

It doesn't hold up. 18 yrs is a long time in video gaming.

[pEgLeG]

Originally Posted by SymbioticFunction

It doesn't hold up. 18 yrs is a long time in video gaming.

Have you played it recently? Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 (19 years old) still holds up very well.

[LegacyCosts]

Originally Posted by SymbioticFunction

It doesn't hold up. 18 yrs is a long time in video gaming.

It holds up if you're playing statue drunk.

[SymbioticFunction]

Originally Posted by pEgLeG

Have you played it recently? Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 (19 years old) still holds up very well.

Looked at it a few mths back, round a friend's house. Time hasn't been too kind to it imo. Can't comment on Mortal Kombat as I've never been a fan.

[pEgLeG]

Originally Posted by SymbioticFunction

Looked at it a few mths back, round a friend's house. Time hasn't been too kind to it imo. Can't comment on Mortal Kombat as I've never been a fan.

Ah. So you're just comparing its graphics to those of today? I was referring more to the level of fun to be had while playing it.

[SymbioticFunction]

Originally Posted by pEgLeG

Ah. So you're just comparing its graphics to those of today? I was referring more to the level of fun to be had while playing it.

That "looked" word wasn't meant to be taken so literally.

[pEgLeG]

Originally Posted by SymbioticFunction

That "looked" word wasn't meant to be taken so literally.

My mistake. I guess I'm not up to date with the vernacular.

[SymbioticFunction]

The game was the first properly respectable console fps but it just seems so incredibly creaky and ancient now. I downloaded the 'Goldeneye Reloaded' title (with Daniel Craig visage) off PSN quite a while back but got quite bored with it about five levels in. Best 'Bond' gaming experience I've probably ever had was playing the fantastic 'Black' fps on the original X-Box. It allowed you to play custom s'tracks during gameplay so I used to enjoy listening to Bond themes whilst causing absolute mayhem. Sad but true.

[Hatter]

Originally Posted by SymbioticFunction

The game was the first properly respectable console fps but it just seems so incredibly creaky and ancient now.

I disagree. It shows it's age visually and enemies being unable to shoot at you if your not on the same vertical plane or if you stand right next to them however level design, animation and control is scheme is still solid. I always enjoy firing up the facility level every now and then.

Perfect Dark fixed many of the issues it had such as enemies being able to identify you and shooting at you from different elevations and melee attacks to not allow Goldeneye "boxing grappling" to avoid being hit.

[Wireduck1]

Originally Posted by Drewbee87

Hi-Res still 6144 x 4096:

Tactical turtleneck Lana.

I warned you: The man loves his cardigans. Coming soon, the return of the dreaded Safari-Suit.

[AvengingCursader]

Skyfall was a brillant film, both in storytelling and development. Can't wait for SPECTRE!!!

[Xenia]

Originally Posted by The Fallen Deity

See I think Connery looks bored in DAF.

You can tell that he was reluctant to return to the series and was only there for the money.

Yeah I mean I certainly respect your opinion I just don't think he was bored at all. His weakest performance is in YOLT but in DAF he gives this very aloof, very sardonic, very darkly comedic turn. I enjoy it immensely.

Like I said, I'm not denying it is campy, but I don't mind campy. I love how it is balanced with really dark moments. It's a great experience. Very funny.

But to each his own of course

As for the eras:

Connery - THUNDERBALL
Moore - SPY WHO LOVED ME / OCTOPUSSY
Dalton - THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS (by quite a stretch)
Brosnan - GOLDENEYE (by quite a stretch)
Craig - CASINO ROYALE

For what it's worth I still consider the first 4 Connery films to be arguably the best 4 in the series. THUNDERBALL is my all-time favorite and I'd take those first 4 Connery films and a handful of other great ones in the series for an unranked top ten.

For what it's worth I've been a huge Bond fan since I was 6 years old. Naturally I love almost every single film.

Exceptions:
- OHMSS - Sorry folks, as I've mentioned there's a lot to admire, but in my eyes George Lazenby is horrible as Bond.
- TWINE - Boring soap opera.
- QOS - Forster's attempt at an arthouse Bond film is laughable, the "subtext" is laughable, and it's just such a drab film. Bond spends the majority of the runtime in a CGI wind tunnel, covered in dirt, or mutually sullen with a very sullen Bond girl. It's just not a Bond film. Gemma Arterton was nice, but then they ruined that with that shameless GOLDFINGER reference. The plot is impenetrable and don't even get me started on the editing. Oh and I almost forgot - the bits of the film that aren't edited and shook to within an inch of their life are ripped straight from THE BOURNE SUPREMACY.

There are some nice things about it that make it watchable. Craig is still trying and the cinematography is lovely when it stays away from actors' faces. Also easily David Arnold's best score.

Didn't mean to get so long winded. Just my personal opinion (for you QUANTUM fans). Anyways, it's nice to see some fellow 007 fans on here! Usually have to scour the specific boards for that.

[Ben_UK]

I went to see Skyfall with one of my friends, who is actually a real Bond fan (like myself). I liked it (didnt love it - I admit) but he hated it. He just said it was really boring and didn't feel or sound like a Bond film.

I think what they are doing now with Bond is that they are actually trying to produce a critically acclaimed film, which I don't think they really have done in the past. John Glen, whilst a competent director, is no David Lynch or The Coen Brothers, however he made some solid films. I think they are trying to give Bond more credibility in terms of being a respectable film, hiring respected cinematographers/directors etc. In that past the modus operandi was, get some girls, some gadgets, a hammy villain and let Bond play with it. Now it seems like they want to actually get to know Bond, explore his past etc, which I don't think sits very well with people who want Bond to be throw away entertainment.

I guess the box office doesn't lie though and the takings for Skyfall have to be an endorsement in how the audience feels about the direction of the franchise.