Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I can't be bothered with these "what ifs" of yours.

All I can think about is pie.

I feel like I know you, but sometimes my arms bend back.

[flyry]

I've quite enjoyed all the doom and gloom physical media articles in light of the Samsung news

"“Some devices, such as DVD/Blu-ray players, are in the declining phase of their product life cycle as streaming devices gain prominence,” reads Nielsen’s Q2 2018 report, adding that only 66 percent of TV watching households have one now, compared to 72 percent the year before. Nielsen also says the average US adult spends just 5 minutes a day — by far the least of any screen activity — using a Blu-ray or DVD player."

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by flyry

I've quite enjoyed all the doom and gloom physical media articles in light of the Samsung news

"“Some devices, such as DVD/Blu-ray players, are in the declining phase of their product life cycle as streaming devices gain prominence,” reads Nielsen’s Q2 2018 report, adding that only 66 percent of TV watching households have one now, compared to 72 percent the year before. Nielsen also says the average US adult spends just 5 minutes a day — by far the least of any screen activity — using a Blu-ray or DVD player."

I quite enjoyed Filmstruck closing down. Sorry. I will piss myself with laughter when the replacement closes down. It’s a little silly to love older films and not be fully behind disc. You will learn the hard way.

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by flyry

I've quite enjoyed all the doom and gloom physical media articles in light of the Samsung news

"“Some devices, such as DVD/Blu-ray players, are in the declining phase of their product life cycle as streaming devices gain prominence,” reads Nielsen’s Q2 2018 report, adding that only 66 percent of TV watching households have one now, compared to 72 percent the year before. Nielsen also says the average US adult spends just 5 minutes a day — by far the least of any screen activity — using a Blu-ray or DVD player."

I think the market is wide open for a High End Streaming Device, and people that want a 4K Player should consider a Panasonic or Sony they have good Streaming Apps. So you should have the best of both worlds.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by alchav21

I think the market is wide open for a High End Streaming Device, and people that want a 4K Player should consider a Panasonic or Sony they have good Streaming Apps. So you should have the best of both worlds.

Wrong market. High end and streaming just don’t go together.

[The_Donster]

Where did you read that iTunes will be a available on Samsung televisions in the future Steedeel? Might be time for me to review the owners thread for mine in the AVS forum.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by The_Donster

Where did you read that iTunes will be a available on Samsung televisions in the future Steedeel? Might be time for me to review the owners thread for mine in the AVS forum.

Scattered all over the internet. It was first announced at CES. All the other tv makes are getting AirPlay 2. Samsung has the storefront AND AirPlay 2. Older Samsung models (from 2017 I think) will be getting it via a firmware update.

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I have way more now, 4k and Blu-ray included.

About how many 4K releases do you have?

[AKORIS]

Originally Posted by flyry

I've quite enjoyed all the doom and gloom physical media articles in light of the Samsung news

"“Some devices, such as DVD/Blu-ray players, are in the declining phase of their product life cycle as streaming devices gain prominence,” reads Nielsen’s Q2 2018 report, adding that only 66 percent of TV watching households have one now, compared to 72 percent the year before. Nielsen also says the average US adult spends just 5 minutes a day — by far the least of any screen activity — using a Blu-ray or DVD player."

so the average person watches a movie on disc for just 5 minutes per day? Does that even make sense... at all?

[flyry]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I quite enjoyed Filmstruck closing down. Sorry. I will piss myself with laughter when the replacement closes down. It’s a little silly to love older films and not be fully behind disc. You will learn the hard way.

The Criterion Channel coming in March. $89 a year is a steal considering what their discs cost even during the sales. I own my favs even when they were mainstays on Hulu and filmstruck.

Plus Criterion may be tied into the new Warner service.

You're just mad no one gives a shit about letting the UK get the good streaming apps

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by flyry

I've quite enjoyed all the doom and gloom physical media articles in light of the Samsung news

"“Some devices, such as DVD/Blu-ray players, are in the declining phase of their product life cycle as streaming devices gain prominence,” reads Nielsen’s Q2 2018 report, adding that only 66 percent of TV watching households have one now, compared to 72 percent the year before. Nielsen also says the average US adult spends just 5 minutes a day — by far the least of any screen activity — using a Blu-ray or DVD player."

As much as I prefer physical media, I have never wished ill outcomes for those that have different preferences.

When Filmstruck closed, I said that I was sorry to hear about it. When the new Criterion service was recently announced, I was glad to see it resurrected.

With UV closing, I posted in the UV thread that I hoped that the transition from UV was a smooth one. I said there, and here as well, that I do not want anyone to lose the content that they have purchased.

Sure, I wish more people valued physical media like I do, but I want them to make that choice because they see (and hear) the benefits of it, not because it is their only choice. A product, or service, should stand upon its merits, not rely upon a lack of competition. As much as I love movies and my method of acquiring them, I value freedom of choice more.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by flyry

The Criterion Channel coming in March. $89 a year is a steal considering what their discs cost even during the sales. I own my favs even when they were mainstays on Hulu and filmstruck.

Plus Criterion may be tied into the new Warner service.

You're just mad no one gives a shit about letting the UK get the good streaming apps

I’m not sure what apps you are referring to. We have Netflix, BBC, Sky Store, Now tv, Itunes, Amazon, we are getting Apple’s streaming service, Disney’s, Universals, we have Shudder, BFI, etc..

If you mean Vudu, you know the answer to that already. I’m a disc guy to the end. If you mean Hulu, we get that content via other channels, if you mean HBO, we get that via Sky Atlantic.

As usual, you are talking out of your ass imo.

By the way, Criterion is a steal because it wont be the same excellent quality (imo) when steamed, that’s kind of the point

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

About how many 4K releases do you have?

26 films, 3 tv series. Which is 29 more than you.

I already had priority blurays on my list, otherwise it would have been a few more. That number should go up to around 50 by the end of th3 year.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I’m not sure what apps you are referring to. We have Netflix, BBC, Sky Store, Now tv, Itunes, Amazon, we are getting Apple’s streaming service, Disney’s, Universals, we have Shudder, BFI, etc..

If you mean Vudu, you know the answer to that already. I’m a disc guy to the end. If you mean Hulu, we get that content via other channels, if you mean HBO, we get that via Sky Atlantic.

As usual, you are talking out of your ass imo.

By the way, Criterion is a steal because it wont be the same excellent quality (imo) when steamed, that’s kind of the point

Tsk tsk there Mr. Nice Guy.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

About how many 4K releases do you have?

Originally Posted by Steedeel

26 films, 3 tv series. Which is 29 more than you.

Dynamo of Eternia has 104 4K films and 2 4K TV series in his collection (that he has listed).

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

Dynamo of Eternia has 104 4K films and 2 4K TV series in his collection (that he has listed).

Yeah, I was being sarcastic. He wants a pissing contest.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Vilya

As much as I prefer physical media, I have never wished ill outcomes for those that have different preferences.

When Filmstruck closed, I said that I was sorry to hear about it. When the new Criterion service was recently announced, I was glad to see it resurrected.

With UV closing, I posted in the UV thread that I hoped that the transition from UV was a smooth one. I said there, and here as well, that I do not want anyone to lose the content that they have purchased.

Sure, I wish more people valued physical media like I do, but I want them to make that choice because they see (and hear) the benefits of it, not because it is their only choice. A product, or service, should stand upon its merits, not rely upon a lack of competition. As much as I love movies and my method of acquiring them, I value freedom of choice more.

The problem is that streaming's merits can change, even for the content people have already purchased. There's uncertainty in whether digital titles will continue to be available. I want people to be aware of the risks, but most people never even consider them.

I don't want anyone to lose content either but with streaming it is extremely likely that people will. I'd rather they realize that sooner than later.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Tsk tsk there Mr. Nice Guy.

Why single me out there? Didn’t you think Flyry’s post was a little aggressive? Or is just my behaviour that is monitored by yourself?

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Yeah, I was being sarcastic. He wants a pissing contest.

That's quite an assumption.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Why single me out there? Didn’t you think Flyry’s post was a little aggressive? Or is just my behaviour that is monitored by yourself?

I think he was poking disc fans with a small stick knowing that someone here would react. And that someone was you. You were the one who escalated it with the "talking out of your a.." comment.

I pointed it out to remind you that you behave no better than those you yourself criticize.