Power cords? suggestions?

[ryan4blu]

Originally Posted by louhamilton

But some people are just looking for opinions, or names of companies who provide a certain product. They don't want or need a thesis on the background and theories as to why it will or will not work.
Are LCD's or plasmas better? Do I care how the phosphors are energized in my plasma TV in order to give me a picture? Will I ever know who shot JFK with the "magic bullet?" Is God and Satan real or just made up by man many years ago as a bed-time story?

exactly!!!! i mean come on here, its a power cord for a home theater man. wasnt asking for a logical or illogical reason behind power cords.

lou hit the nail on the head with this statement, thanks lou

[ryan4blu]

Originally Posted by louhamilton

I don't drink but I'm anticipating your write-up on the experience with your new cord.

Have a great weekend, Ryan!

, nope not here man. too many freaks talking about atoms and photons here


i will just get my cord and enjoy it for myself.

[crazyBLUE]

Originally Posted by ryan4blu

, nope not here man. too many freaks talking about atoms and photons here


i will just get my cord and enjoy it for myself.

That's all that counts ryan ~ You are happy with it

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by ryan4blu

i will just get my cord and enjoy it for myself.

Good morning Ryan,

That's exactly what you should do.

However, I do hope that you read through some of the posts made by "freaks"! I certainly wouldn't categorize solarrdadd as one such person. In fact, I respect his opinions a great deal. Although the posts may have gone off-course from the original intent of your thread, I definitely learnt something and for that I'm grateful. I hope you did as well.

Just wanted to provide this as some food for thought.

John

[ryan4blu]

Originally Posted by John72953

Good morning Ryan,

That's exactly what you should do.

However, I do hope that you read through some of the posts made by "freaks"! I certainly wouldn't categorize solarrdadd as one such person. In fact, I respect his opinions a great deal. Although the posts may have gone off-course from the original intent of your thread, I definitely learnt something and for that I'm grateful. I hope you did as well.

Just wanted to provide this as some food for thought.

John

nope, no ill will towards anyone. just didnt expect this as i have never discussed this before and was blown away by all the mumbo jumbo and how it went off coarse. i had some here that helped me and i guess that was good enough for me.

solarrdadd is great here and i respect him as well, infact he has helped me in other threads with his opinions and suggestions. no problem with him at all.

[ryan4blu]

Originally Posted by crazyBLUE

That's all that counts ryan ~ You are happy with it

thanks, just was looking for some thoughts on power cords and wether they were worth it or not. doesnt matter now, got one coming and for those who care i will post my thoughts after it is hooked up and demo'd.

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by ryan4blu

nope, no ill will towards anyone. just didnt expect this as i have never discussed this before and was blown away by all the mumbo jumbo and how it went off coarse. i had some here that helped me and i guess that was good enough for me.

solarrdadd is great here and i respect him as well, infact he has helped me in other threads with his opinions and suggestions. no problem with him at all.

Excellent

John

[crazyBLUE]

Originally Posted by ryan4blu

thanks, just was looking for some thoughts on power cords and wether they were worth it or not. doesnt matter now, got one coming and for those who care i will post my thoughts after it is hooked up and demo'd.

Good for you & I will be waiting to see what you think of them !
As John said before ~ solarrdadd is the one that will give you A straight answer when it comes to Electricity & things that involve it .

[solarrdadd]

Originally Posted by westom

Essentially, you have posted what I had posted in brevity.

That blackening can be due to high current and lower (but excessive) resistance. Or low current through higher resistance. Or a third category - arcing. In all cases, energy (and burning) is a function of current.

Same current would also be in the other 'neutral' wire. But the neutral connection did not dissipate energy while conducting that same current. Same current says the hot prong had excessive resistance - the neutral did not. Why did the 'hot' have excessive resistance whereas the neutral did not?

One way blackening could occur is if the plug was not fully seated. But then blackening would not be at the base of that yellow plug. The plug apparently was fully seated. Resistance (or an arcing gap) was between that prong and the internal receptacle contact.

Properly noted is a problem common with 'back stab' connections. (An electrical connection that should never exist on circuits that power computers.) Again, not relevant here. Burning is in the wrong location.


Regardless of NEMA 15R, some receptacles (not just hospital type) have receptacle contacts that are superior. Exceed NEMA requirements - rated for more reconnects. And typically sold in the same Lowes or Home Depot for more money. This receptacle demonstrates what happens when a minimal contact is insufficient (ie contact pressure on the plug prong is weak).

I never said there weren't, I stated that i stated the nomenclature NEMA would use to the device rated for said purposes by NEMA. yes, there are other receptacles that exceed said pressure but there is no NEMA designation for them. NEMA much like the NEC gives the minimum requirements. could you use #10awg for a 20a circuit yes you can and at times you must but you may also use the smaller #12awg for that same 20a circuit unless those "times" i mentioned exist then you may not.

His tirade implied a dedicated 20 amp circuit or line conditioner would avert or create this problem. He does not say with clarity. That blackening is consistent with excessive energy dissipated as defined by the famous "I squared R" relationship. A combination of higher current and higher resistance. Both must exist to create that damage. Same current also flowing through the neutral connection caused no damage. Only the hot wire contact was defective on that 15 amp receptacle.

I implied nothing, i simply stated what I used to get power up to my HT setup read it again.

So, howwould a dedicated circuit or line conditioner changed that picture - as his outburst implied?

first, what outburst, please curb or govern your passions or they will be your undoing. Nothing will prevent that damage if enough resistance or impedance exist on a circuit when energy is being consumed or "called for" and I never said either would prevent such damage, again, I simply stated what I use to get power up to my HT setup.

In your haste to try to make yourself look good and others look bad you are making yourself look bad while trying to do good. stop trying to talk over or down to folks your doing it intentionally or unintentionally. if this is how all your other post have gone on this forum, i can see why you haven't made any "friends" on your profile page. we come together as friends and kindred spirits to share our common passion for HT & blu-ray, not to weild a so called stick stick over others. it takes a big person to let something go as well you should. this post has really been brought down with your inputs and stabs at everyone.

everyone, please let's try to move forward, this will get us nowhere. let's put this one to rest so we can move on.

everyone else, lets either answer the OP question or do nothing or this particular tangent will go on forever! Oh to ensure we can make that happen, "Wescom, you are right and we are all wrong", better? now let's get back to being a happy loving community!

Please & Thank You!

[Hammie]

Ryan,

Glad you got the power cord coming. Looking forward to your opinion.

As far as the term "freaks," it has a negative connotation. I think "geeks" would be better received. Or just saying the discussion got too technical to be helpful (to you) and very off-topic and made no sense at times.

Others may come to this thread and have an ah-ha moment and just decide to sell their gear. At that time, people who want them can get them for a bargain.

So, thanks, Ryan, for starting this thread. And thanks to all the others who contributed to this roller coaster of emotional and knowledgeable of responses.

I think Ryan got out of it what he wanted and others got what they wanted. On that note, if a mod wants to close this thread, that would be fine. I do not think there could be anything more to add to this discussion.

I hope everyone has a great day. Get out and get some Vitamin D.

[solarrdadd]

thanks lou, you are correct and wise as usual. Mod, please close this thread!

[phantompwr]

Solarrdadd, thanks for your input on this, I think everyone here is glad that you provided both some great information on circuits and some much needed sanity to this thread.
OP, don't give up, there are plenty of us waiting patiently to hear about your new power cord when you get a chance to try it out.

[ryan4blu]

Originally Posted by louhamilton

Ryan,

Glad you got the power cord coming. Looking forward to your opinion.

As far as the term "freaks," it has a negative connotation. I think "geeks" would be better received. Or just saying the discussion got too technical to be helpful (to you) and very off-topic and made no sense at times.

Others may come to this thread and have an ah-ha moment and just decide to sell their gear. At that time, people who want them can get them for a bargain.

So, thanks, Ryan, for starting this thread. And thanks to all the others who contributed to this roller coaster of emotional and knowledgeable of responses.

I think Ryan got out of it what he wanted and others got what they wanted. On that note, if a mod wants to close this thread, that would be fine. I do not think there could be anything more to add to this discussion.

I hope everyone has a great day. Get out and get some Vitamin D.

point taken thanks

i would really like to keep it open as i stated earlier i would like to comment on my review of the power cord when it comes inm it thats ok.

thanks for the support of those who really know what they are taking about

[ryan4blu]

Originally Posted by solarrdadd

thanks lou, you are correct and wise as usual. Mod, please close this thread!

not yet please would like to have a chance to review my thoughts on the power cord after i have it hooked up i dont mind if all the other talk stops, but i would like a chance since i opened the thread

[solarrdadd]

Originally Posted by ryan4blu

not yet please would like to have a chance to review my thoughts on the power cord after i have it hooked up i dont mind if all the other talk stops, but i would like a chance since i opened the thread

Understood, of course you could open a new thread, but i respect your wishes!

[ryan4blu]

Originally Posted by solarrdadd

Understood, of course you could open a new thread, but i respect your wishes!

thats true, just didnt want to be repeating a thread again. on the other hand i could open a review thread instead. good point, thanks

[ryan4blu]

got a quick question about my power cord

should it be plugged into the outlet directly? or can i plug it into my APC-15 power conditioner?

thanks

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by ryan4blu

got a quick question about my power cord

should it be plugged into the outlet directly? or can i plug it into my APC-15 power conditioner?

thanks

You can plug into your APC or a wall outlet. Check the manual of your AVR or Power Amp first, as some say to plug it into a wall outlet only. If no mention is made, you'll be fine either way.

John

[ryan4blu]

Originally Posted by John72953

You can plug into your APC or a wall outlet. Check the manual of your AVR or Power Amp first, as some say to plug it into a wall outlet only. If no mention is made, you'll be fine either way.

John

Cool thanks. ya i didnt think it would hurt being plugged into my apc as it is now.

[westom]

Originally Posted by ryan4blu

i would really like to keep it open as i stated earlier i would like to comment on my review of the power cord when it comes inm it thats ok.

What parameters 'measure' that power cord's quality?

Meanwhile, neither a line conditioner nor dedicated circuit would have averted that blackening plug and receptacle. No respoonse on that question from others confirms and terminates that other discussion.