Disney's ‘Maleficent' - May 30th, 2014

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by Sean B.

Oh, I see. Well, Thank god Tim Burton is not the one who that directed it. He left this Maleficent movie in May 2011, after the announcement of its existence back in January 2010. Then in January 2012 Robert Stromberg was hired to direct Maleficent, and this Maleficent movie will be his directorial debut.

'Alice' wasn't completely Burton's fault. He's a part, but that movie's biggest problem was the script...That's what worries me about this movie. Linda Woolverton is incredibly hit and miss, and her 'Alice' script was terrible. This could easily end up the same way. At least Burton with Burton, I could count on some decent performances and a weird, quirky, visual style. I don't know anything about this new director, so it that doesn't help...

When Burton is a director for hire, he's hit and miss. I'll give him that. But when he actually had a passion project, he's quite good. 'Alice', much like 'Planet of the Apes', showed that when he's just hired for a job, he doesn't put his whole heart and soul into the film. A bad script makes that even worse...

[Sean B.]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

'Alice' wasn't completely Burton's fault. He's a part, but that movie's biggest problem was the script...That's what worries me about this movie. Linda Woolverton is incredibly hit and miss, and her 'Alice' script was terrible. This could easily end up the same way. At least Burton with Burton, I could count on some decent performances and a weird, quirky, visual style. I don't know anything about this new director, so it that doesn't help...

When Burton is a director for hire, he's hit and miss. I'll give him that. But when he actually had a passion project, he's quite good. 'Alice', much like 'Planet of the Apes', showed that when he's just hired for a job, he doesn't put his whole heart and soul into the film. A bad script makes that even worse...

Robert Stromberg happens to have been the production designer of movies, such as Avatar and Oz: The Great and Powerful and Alice and Wonderland, he did the visual effects for Life of Pi as I had mentioned about before. Even though it will have been just this movie 'Maleficent' that he'll have directed so far, I wouldn't be too worried about that because if he had not been a good choice for directing Maleficent, then they would not have hired him to direct Maleficent. And as for the script, we won't really know how the script will have turned out until Maleficent is released to theaters. We haven't heard about this movie getting script re-writes like what happened to Pirates 5, so I think the studio execs liked what they read when they were given the script to read it after Paul Dini and Linda Woolverton finished writing it.

[cinemaphile]

Originally Posted by Sean B.

Robert Stromberg happens to have been the production designer of movies, such as Avatar and Oz: The Great and Powerful and Alice and Wonderland, he did the visual effects for Life of Pi as I had mentioned about before. Even though it will have been just this movie 'Maleficent' that he'll have directed so far, I wouldn't be too worried about that because if he had not been a good choice for directing Maleficent, then they would not have hired him to direct Maleficent.

because no movie ever got made with a bad director or one who was completely wrong for it??!?

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by cinemaphile

because no movie ever got made with a bad director or one who was completely wrong for it??!?

Exactly...

Also, it doesn't matter if this guy was an art designer or not...It doesn't mean he is capable of directing a film of this magnitude. Before you try and say I'm wrong, Sean, I'm NOT saying he WILL screw it up, I'm saying there is always the chance it could happen. Disney hadn't made the best choices lately...This could be another.

[Sean B.]

Originally Posted by cinemaphile

because no movie ever got made with a bad director or one who was completely wrong for it??!?

That's not true. We don't know how Maleficent will turn out until its released. So I wouldn't be putting down Robert Stromberg considering Maleficent hasn't been released yet, and considering that those who haven't seen it, haven't seen it. Unless you're someone who saw a special screening of it .

[Sean B.]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

Also, it doesn't matter if this guy was an art designer or not...It doesn't mean he is capable of directing a film of this magnitude. Before you try and say I'm wrong, Sean, I'm NOT saying he WILL screw it up, I'm saying there is always the chance it could happen. Disney hadn't made the best choices lately...This could be another.

Yes, I know what you mean. Maleficent will be Robert Stromberg's directorial debut, so it will be interesting to see how it will turn out . I do have a feeling though, that this movie will not be one of those latest Disney flops like Prince of Persia or John Carter or The Lone Ranger, etc, and that it will be a good movie and a hit unlike those 3 movies I've mentioned of .

[cinemaphile]

Originally Posted by Sean B.

That's not true. We don't know how Maleficent will turn out until its released. So I wouldn't be putting down Robert Stromberg considering Maleficent hasn't been released yet, and considering that those who haven't seen it, haven't seen it. Unless you're someone who saw a special screening of it .

what's not true? What I said was pointing out the presumptiveness of YOUR statement: "if he had not been a good choice for directing Maleficent, then they would not have hired him to direct Maleficent." Because YOU don't know that's true. It could very well turn out that he wasn't the right choice. He may be fine, too. But your logic is "they hired him, so he's the best director for the job!"

[Sean B.]

Originally Posted by cinemaphile

what's not true? What I said was pointing out the presumtiveness of YOUR statement: "if he had not been a good choice for directing Maleficent, then they would not have hired him to direct Maleficent." Because YOU don't know that's true. It could very well turn out that he wasn't the right choice. He may be fine, too. But your logic is "they hired him, so he's the best director for the job!"

What's not true is what you said, that "because no movie ever got made with a bad director or one who was completely wrong for it". I have a feeling that it will turn out to be that he did fine on the movie, or in other words: that he did a good job on it. I haven't heard about any negative things about this movie. From what I read about the special screenings of Maleficent, from people who got to see it in special screenings was that it was a very good movie.

[cinemaphile]

Originally Posted by Sean B.

What's not true is what you said, that "because no movie ever got made with a bad director or one who was completely wrong for it". I have a feeling that it will turn out to be that he did fine on the movie, or in other words: that he did a good job on it. I haven't heard about any negative things about this movie. From what I read about the special screenings of Maleficent, from people who got to see it in special screenings was that it was a very good movie.

of COURSE what I said wasn't true. That was the whole point. Do they have sarcasm where you live?

[Sean B.]

Originally Posted by cinemaphile

of COURSE what I said wasn't true. That was the whole point. Do they have sarcasm where you live?

I guess I just didn't take that as sarcasm . But, from what I read about the special screenings of Maleficent, from people who got to see it in special screenings was that it was a very good movie.

[Pounder]

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[Sean B.]

Any idea as to when we may find out Maleficent's approximate running time and mpaa rating ?

[cinemaphile]

Originally Posted by Sean B.

Any idea as to when we may find out Maleficent's approximate running time and mpaa rating ?

I doubt it will be locked before the end of the year. Probably not until spring.

[Sean B.]

Originally Posted by cinemaphile

I doubt it will be locked before the end of the year. Probably not until spring.

So either by March or April or May 2014 ?

[cinemaphile]

Originally Posted by Sean B.

So either by March or April or May 2014 ?

yup.

[Sean B.]

Originally Posted by cinemaphile

yup.

Oh, I see. Thank you for letting me know .

[Walts Ghost]

‘Saving Mr. Banks’ Director John Lee Hancock to Help With ‘Maleficent’ Reshoots

Saving Mr. Banks helmer John Lee Hancock is going to help rescue another iconic Disney character. Hancock has been brought in to assist first-time director Robert Stromberg in shooting new scenes for Maleficent, intended to strengthen the opening of the film.

While it’s not uncommon for big-budget studio productions like this one to go in for reshoots, it is a bit unusual for a studio to bring in another director to help film new material. Hit the jump for the latest updates on the project.

THR reports that Hancock will write and “help oversee” the reshoots, which are not expected to involve star Angelina Jolie. Principal photography on the film took place over the summer in London. The reshoots are scheduled to take place over eight days. The new scenes should not delay the movie’s opening, which is scheduled for May 30, 2014.

Not surprisingly, Stromberg’s relative inexperience seems to be part of the problem. “We asked [Hancock] to be on set,” said producer Joe Roth. “He’s not directing. He wrote pages and I hired a first-time director and it’s good to have him on set.”

On the plus side, Stromberg, who has won Oscars for his production design work on Alice in Wonderland and Avatar, seems to have put his strong visual sense to good use. “The movie is gorgeous to look at and the last 75 minutes are really entertaining,” said Roth. Indeed, Peter seemed pretty impressed by the footage shown at D23, describing it as “a Disney fairy tale come to life.”

It’s not especially encouraging that Maleficent needs so much extra work, but as this summer’s World War Z reminded us, troubled productions don’t automatically spell doom. The zombie film went through a similar ordeal, undergoing extensive rewrites and reshoots late in the game, but eventually went on to gross $539 million and earn some pretty solid reviews to boot.

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Well, this definitely bodes well for the film...

[Sean B.]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

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Well, this definitely bodes well for the film...

I hope that does not mean that they are going to have to delay the theatrical release date again, after it had been moved up from July 2nd 2014 to May 30th 2014 ! .

[Pounder]

Originally Posted by Sean B.

I hope that does not mean that they are going to have to delay the theatrical release date again, after it had been moved up from July 2nd 2014 to May 30th 2014 ! .

Christmas 2013

[Sean B.]

Originally Posted by pgestradasp1

Christmas 2013

They wouldn't move its release date up to Christmas 2013. If anything, They'd move it back again since there are going to be reshoots, which I really hope it being moved back again doesn't happen since it has a May 30th 2014 theatrical release date . That's the second earliest theatrical release dates its been given yet , after its very first March 14th 2014 theatrical release date that it had at first.