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Old 01-06-2015, 02:24 PM   #121
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How is the mail asdress of Scorseses office or his foundation for film preservation?
This is what I could find:

http://www.film-foundation.org/commo...clientID=11004

Good idea BTW, I will write a message here as well.

On a sidenote, I was just thinking if this is the first Warner release that was released once, and then had two anniversary editions after. Gone with the Wind has two anniversary editions, but the first release itself was an anniversary edition. And there are three releases of Full Metal Jacket, but I don't know if the very first 2006 release should count since it was a highly problematic transfer and was corrected with a new release shortly after. I believe that this is the first time they've released a movie for the third time with more content each time.

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Thanks, I send them a mail, maybe it works. I hope more people do that.
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It would be downright SHAMEFULL if they quintuple dipped on a film of this stature and it's still the old transfer. Hell, they already double dipped with a digibook (as well as steelbooks and numerous other re-packagings). This sounds like another digibook with 36 pages of illustration (do the diamond-luxe have book like inserts?).

Still, I'm prepared for this to be the original video with a lossless 5.1 track. And I'm also prepared to *NOT* purchase that, regardless of any new extras.

I have to be honest though. At this point, even if it is a 4K remaster, I might be tempted to just hold out as I'm sure a native 4K release is inevitable. A 4K restoration makes such a 4K release even more imminent. I've held out this long to updgrade the DVD, might as well wait for 4K.
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Old 01-06-2015, 05:36 PM   #124
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It would be nice of WB would also finally release the After Hours BLU that it was rumored Scorsese was working on.
If the New Years drawing is any indication it'll come via Criterion (the clock).
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Old 01-06-2015, 06:13 PM   #125
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Which titles have WB re-released on Blu-ray with a new transfer, encode/remaster?

Top of my head:

The Fugitive
Enter the Dragon
Lethal Weapon 1 & 2
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Old 01-06-2015, 06:40 PM   #126
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Which titles have WB re-released on Blu-ray with a new transfer, encode/remaster?

Top of my head:

The Fugitive
Enter the Dragon
Lethal Weapon 1 & 2
Full Metal Jacket
Casablanca
Superman: The Movie (extended)
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Old 01-06-2015, 07:19 PM   #127
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If this had a new transfer i would pay twilight time prices for it
Agreed
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Old 01-06-2015, 10:06 PM   #128
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Full Metal Jacket
Casablanca
Superman: The Movie (extended)
Blazing Saddles
The Road Warrior
Deliverance (not entirely sure about this one)
The Wizard of Oz 3D, if this counts

What's interesting is that of the few titles that they've upgraded, they've either upgraded some highly problematic transfers with jaggies that were only 1440 x 1080 with substantial improvement in picture quality like the very first release of Full Metal Jacket and The Fugitive, or the upgrades have been entirely pointless with like 0.1% improvement in picture quality like with Blazing Saddles, The Road Warrior and Deliverance (maybe). I have no idea whatsoever who makes their decision on whether they should upgrade a transfer and why they should do it.
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Old 01-06-2015, 10:54 PM   #129
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First you said that comparing the Spielberg-Universal connection with the Scorsese-Warner one is unfair because Spielberg has history with Universal. Then I show you an example of a studio that has less history with Scorsese than Warner where Scorsese was involved with the restoration and you say that somehow doesn't count as well. Well excuse me.
What I was getting at is you named two examples of the studio coming to the filmmaker. Universal probably feels indebted to Spielberg and Sony was pushing Digital Cinema 4K and wanting to really go all-out for the anniversary, so it seems as if they reached out to the directors to get them involved. What you were talking about before was Scorsese going to Warner and putting his foot down. To be fair, it's yet to be seen how much Warner cares about GoodFellas' anniversary, but they have a tendency to repackage for anniversaries.

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A simple request, let alone a demand, by him could make a difference. All I'm saying is that it's not right that he is more involved with how mid 20th century movies from all kinds of exotic countries around the world than he is with what is obviously one of the favorite of his own movies, and arguably his greatest film.
I don't disagree with that. 100% of my point is just that it seems likely that Scorsese assumes studios are doing right by his films. We wouldn't already have a mediocre GoodFellas (much less The Color of Money) if he was that attentive to the home video releases of his films.

If you were talking about a director who loves technology as much or more than they love film, it'd be different. I can believe James Cameron goes to 20th Century Fox and says "we've got to do a new transfer."

I think mailing his film foundation is a good idea.

Warner also remastered Outland and "Batman."
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Old 01-06-2015, 11:47 PM   #130
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What I was getting at is you named two examples of the studio coming to the filmmaker. Universal probably feels indebted to Spielberg and Sony was pushing Digital Cinema 4K and wanting to really go all-out for the anniversary, so it seems as if they reached out to the directors to get them involved. What you were talking about before was Scorsese going to Warner and putting his foot down. To be fair, it's yet to be seen how much Warner cares about GoodFellas' anniversary, but they have a tendency to repackage for anniversaries.

I don't disagree with that. 100% of my point is just that it seems likely that Scorsese assumes studios are doing right by his films. We wouldn't already have a mediocre GoodFellas (much less The Color of Money) if he was that attentive to the home video releases of his films.

If you were talking about a director who loves technology as much or more than they love film, it'd be different. I can believe James Cameron goes to 20th Century Fox and says "we've got to do a new transfer."

I think mailing his film foundation is a good idea.

Warner also remastered Outland and "Batman."
I'm talking about a director who loves films to be preserved and shown how they were originally intended to be shown. He is the most vocal of all directors about this subject. Now technology is only a TOOL to present films how they were originally intended to be presented, or at least come as close as possible to this. So how can he possibly not like what technology has to offer as far as this subject goes?

I am fully aware that Scorsese fought to preserve film over digital cinema, but this is about how the films are meant to be shot, shown in theaters and preserved. Not how they are supposed to be shown in homes. You don't think Scorsese wants people to install 35mm film projectors in their living rooms, do you? He's already said that he loves the blu ray format, so I don't know where you get the idea that he doesn't like technology. As a young man, he went to the theater a lot, but he also watched television, which also influenced him, so even if he didn't care about home video technology (which he does), he should.
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I hope Warner Bros. gives us more than an audio upgrade like they did with Deliverance and The Road Warrior (Mad Max 2).
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I don't know where you get the idea that he doesn't like technology.
You keep pulling things out of my comments that have nothing to do with what I'm saying. James Cameron is constantly pushing new tech like CG, 3D, HFR. I'm not saying Scorsese isn't interested in tech, just that he's not a guy who actively grabs for the newest digital tools.

The entirety of my point, again, is that unless someone has told him GoodFellas looks poor on Blu-ray, I doubt he knows. The responsibility of a new transfer lies on Warner Bros., and if it doesn't happen, they should be the target of ire.
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Old 01-07-2015, 07:32 AM   #133
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You keep pulling things out of my comments that have nothing to do with what I'm saying. James Cameron is constantly pushing new tech like CG, 3D, HFR. I'm not saying Scorsese isn't interested in tech, just that he's not a guy who actively grabs for the newest digital tools.

The entirety of my point, again, is that unless someone has told him GoodFellas looks poor on Blu-ray, I doubt he knows. The responsibility of a new transfer lies on Warner Bros., and if it doesn't happen, they should be the target of ire.
Who said anything about 3D? I'm not saying that Scorsese should request that Goodfellas should be in 3D or whatever like Cameron does with his movies. All I want is the closest representation possible to how the film looked when it was released and how it looked when it was presented in theatres in 1990. The technology allows films to be seen in new ways, but the blu ray format also allows to recreate the organic look of film and how it looked originally.
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You keep pulling things out of my comments that have nothing to do with what I'm saying. James Cameron is constantly pushing new tech like CG, 3D, HFR. I'm not saying Scorsese isn't interested in tech, just that he's not a guy who actively grabs for the newest digital tools.

The entirety of my point, again, is that unless someone has told him GoodFellas looks poor on Blu-ray, I doubt he knows. The responsibility of a new transfer lies on Warner Bros., and if it doesn't happen, they should be the target of ire.
If ANY director knows how his films look on home video, Scorsese would. He's one of the leaders in restoration and preservation of classic films, and the man just loves movies. But films are owned by the studio, not the director (in most cases), so he would have zero say on whether or not WB ponies up the money to remaster the title. Knowing WB, they will, because they, too, care about their films, and have the largest library of any studio. But they can only do so much, and restorations take time. It'll come.
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Blazing Saddles
The Road Warrior
Deliverance (not entirely sure about this one)
The Wizard of Oz 3D, if this counts

What's interesting is that of the few titles that they've upgraded, they've either upgraded some highly problematic transfers with jaggies that were only 1440 x 1080 with substantial improvement in picture quality like the very first release of Full Metal Jacket and The Fugitive, or the upgrades have been entirely pointless with like 0.1% improvement in picture quality like with Blazing Saddles, The Road Warrior and Deliverance (maybe). I have no idea whatsoever who makes their decision on whether they should upgrade a transfer and why they should do it.
I listed what I knew were actually new transfers in addition to what he had posted... Deliverance is the same encoded as the original - they added lossless audio eventually. Was The Road Warrior a new scan?
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If ANY director knows how his films look on home video, Scorsese would. He's one of the leaders in restoration and preservation of classic films, and the man just loves movies. But films are owned by the studio, not the director (in most cases), so he would have zero say on whether or not WB ponies up the money to remaster the title. Knowing WB, they will, because they, too, care about their films, and have the largest library of any studio. But they can only do so much, and restorations take time. It'll come.
I don't know about this, I'm sure when Scorsese speaks studios listen, whether they would remaster a title based on his request is not certain but I'm sure it would definitely incite them to more so then our requests.
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I listed what I knew were actually new transfers in addition to what he had posted... Deliverance is the same encoded as the original - they added lossless audio eventually. Was The Road Warrior a new scan?
No, but it was a new AVC encode.
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What I was getting at is you named two examples of the studio coming to the filmmaker. Universal probably feels indebted to Spielberg and Sony was pushing Digital Cinema 4K and wanting to really go all-out for the anniversary, so it seems as if they reached out to the directors to get them involved. What you were talking about before was Scorsese going to Warner and putting his foot down. To be fair, it's yet to be seen how much Warner cares about GoodFellas' anniversary, but they have a tendency to repackage for anniversaries.

I don't disagree with that. 100% of my point is just that it seems likely that Scorsese assumes studios are doing right by his films. We wouldn't already have a mediocre GoodFellas (much less The Color of Money) if he was that attentive to the home video releases of his films.

If you were talking about a director who loves technology as much or more than they love film, it'd be different. I can believe James Cameron goes to 20th Century Fox and says "we've got to do a new transfer."

I think mailing his film foundation is a good idea.

Warner also remastered Outland and "Batman."

Which Batman? 1989 is the same disc since 2009
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Unless it's again some unfortunate wording from Warner, Happy mad early Christmas, folks!



Although, their date seems incorrect. Perhaps, it's an old one? Who cares, lol.
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Unless it's again some unfortunate wording from Warner, Happy mad early Christmas, folks!

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Although, their date seems incorrect. Perhaps, it's an old one? Who cares, lol.
Great news! If true, it's officially a must-buy.
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