Skipping 4K and waiting for 8K?

[Scottishguy]

[HDM_fan]

I wouldn't rule it out... if 8K displays sell well, then studios may be more than happy to entice us to upgrade from our 4K discs.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by ps3bd_owner

4K is amazing, but years before they talked about 8K so is it happening? Where does it leave 4K?

Also, 1080p isn't "Full HD" anymore or is it?

Just ignore the comments you read that said 4K is old and 8K is coming in the future.

Until we can watch movies in 8K in movie theaters no one is going to push for another higher resolution media standard to show 8K content that is not out there.

Full HD is another name for 1080P

You might see at best mastered in 8K 4K UHD BD's.

Right now we just want 4K UHD BD's that use 4K DI, not 2K DI.

[tcripe]

yeahhhh highly doubt it. Most films aren't even filmed near that res.

[SlaughterX]

We at least need Baraka and other movies that have been mastered in 8k to get a release... but in physical media? Who can really say at this point. Not anytime soon, that's for sure.

[LiemaxUnenhanced]

I can see 8k disc being the last physical format disc before streaming takes over but it will be reserved exclusively for documentaries in the vein of Planet Earth, a possible catalogue title like Lawrence of Arabia and maybe a new tech demo film entirely shot in 8k that will probably be bad.

[Yautja_Warrior]

Doubt it sadly, blu-ray never reached the popularity of dvd and 4k UHD blu-ray is an even smaller market, so I don't see 8k discs becoming a thing.

For most people, digital streaming is just far more popular these days and continues to grow, while physical media becomes a smaller market.

[Fjodor2000]

The question is, what movies would benefit from 8K?

Can you extract 8K pixels from 35 mm film (in a way that it actually provides more detail than 4K)? Regardless of film ISO? From "old" 35 mm film too, or only "modern" 35 mm film?

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Fjodor2000

The question is, what movies would benefit from 8K?

Can you extract 8K pixels from 35 mm film (in a way that it actually provides more detail than 4K)? Regardless of film ISO? From "old" 35 mm film too, or only "modern" 35 mm film?

No - 4K is pushing the limits of the 35mm negative. Any element less than the original negative (IP, IN) will not do 4K.

The only content source for 8K would be 8K digitally shot films, 65mm productions and 15/70 IMAX productions (100% IMAX or combo IMAX 15/70 and 65mm)

[overmang5]

Well the NFL has been filing some games and the 2020 Superbowl with 8K cameras so there's that.

I doubt we'll see 8K commercial blu rays any time soon though.

8K TVs need to be more mainstream, and 8K players need to actually be produced before that happens.

[Lee A Stewart]

Today in the USA 4K TVs are in 58% of all households. UHD-BD makes up less than 5% of all disc sales. BD makes up about 45% of disc sales. The remainder are DVD sales.

So 4 years after the birth of UHD-BD the format is not really gaining ground.

The disc market continues to shrink at about 18% a year.

Will we see 8K Blu-rays?

No. There isn't enough of a market to warrant it. If 4K BD is struggling 8K BD will do even less sales.

[TXMoviebuff77]

Naw cuz physical media is sadly slowly dwindling & even DVDs still outsell BD & 4K. Like others have said 4K is my last format. I’ve invested enough already upgrading to 4K. Also I seriously doubt any manufacturers are gonna wanna fork over money to make players. I feel that the 8K format will be aiming for streaming instead. Sign of the times.

[MeatballSub]

I'd bet my house this is the end of the line for new physical media formats.

The human eye can't really even tell the difference from 4K to 8K. Not to mention, if you ask most people who are not on the UHD section of this forum, they can "bearly tell the difference between 1080 and 4K..."

Those are the type of folks who still think DVDs are the pinnacle of home media...

[zen007]

8k is mainly useful if you are on a projector or a TV sized 75” or larger.

The tech can be pushed for new films. Catalog titles may see limited interest esp. since the results can be mixed even in 4K. Digital/Streaming is likely to be the preferred format.

Right now, we are not even taking full advantage of DV so next step should be 12 bit panels!

[Lee A Stewart]

I would be happy just to see ATSC 3.0 stations broadcast 4k. The chances of that happening are two . . . slim and none.

[Lee A Stewart]

Lots of Hollywood stuff will be shot with 6K and 8K cameras. But not to produce 8K content. Will be down sampled to 4K which produces better images than shooting with 4K cameras.

Only one nation in the world committed to 8K: Japan. And that isn't going well at all with the cancellation of the Olympics. They are already cutting back on 8K transmissions.

[TM2-Megatron]

I doubt it. I'm firmly of the belief that 4K is going to be the pinnacle, as far as physical media goes.

That's primarily why I've finally, with this format, opted to start buying all the old catalog titles that come out on the format, as I never did with blu-ray (plus when I first got into blu-ray, I was more focused on building a decent collection of 3-D titles).

Eventually I'm going to go back and begin picking up some blu-ray catalog titles that aren't likely to make it to 4K.

[tyrok]

It's just not financially feasible. Remastering stuff in 4K already costs a lot and they aren't going to go back and spend more money to do it again for an even more niche audience.

Unfortunately these 8K TVs will likely only ever play native "demo" content from YouTube and maybe eventually Netflix will make the stuff they filmed in 6K and 8K available.

[HeavyHitter]

No 8K upgrade for Blu-ray, admits 8K Association

https://www.homecinemachoice.com/con...8k-association

[bhampton]

I think 4K UHD discs are slowly going to catch on and eventually become very popular.

I still see fairly large spaces in stores for both vinyl and video discs