Cats 4K UHD (2019) - Page 7 - Blu-ray Forum

PonyoBellanote · 12-31-2019, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JosephNYC

I hope it isn't canceled. It isn't a good sign that it isn't up for presale on amazon. I preordered it from Target. I kinda liked the movie too.

I'm not counting on it. Considering if Amazon cancels/removes the listing, and not the Blu-ray one, is because Universal told them so..

It's only sad because it's native 4K so it should look good..

BenjaminG · 12-31-2019, 02:08 AM

Not seen the movie, but would not be too surprised if it became a success on video/streaming.

PonyoBellanote · 12-31-2019, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BenjaminG

Not seen the movie, but would not be too surprised if it became a success on video/streaming.

Wouldn't be the first time and I think this movie will build better overtime away from crtiyucs. but I don't think Universal is gonna be willing to do 4K for a massive bomb, unless they feel obligated or compromised because they had to spend more money to shoot it in native 4K.

Lastyear · 12-31-2019, 02:21 AM

My daughter works at an Emagine theater. They have had more walkouts and people asking for their money back than any other movie in the ten years she's worked there. It not just the critics who hate this film. Personally I dislike anything involving Andrew Lloyd Webber so I won't be seeing this.

Dubstar · 12-31-2019, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lastyear

My daughter works at an Emagine theater. They have had more walkouts and people asking for their money back than any other movie in the ten years she's worked there. It not just the critics who hate this film. Personally I dislike anything involving Andrew Lloyd Webber so I won't be seeing this.

apparently Millennials (and members of the Facebook group: "All Things Broadway") hate 'Cats' with avengence - one meer word or peep, and the claws come out.

PonyoBellanote · 12-31-2019, 11:50 AM

Can't understand why. But again, Cats has always been this thing, very succesful, though also hated in the mainstream.

I legit think and will always think this movie has been unfairly treated and misunderstood.

Blu Cider · 12-31-2019, 11:54 AM

Heading for a $100 million loss at the box office according to Variety. How Universal must yearn for the glory days of Jurassic World and F&F 7.

Brian81 · 12-31-2019, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MassiveG

The visual effects here may benefit from being watched in 1080p.

Don't buy this. People said this about low budget special effects, but rarely does anyone prefer a DVD of a z-grade movie over an HD release.

PonyoBellanote · 12-31-2019, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu Cider

Heading for a $100 million loss at the box office according to Variety. How Universal must yearn for the glory days of Jurassic World and F&F 7.

Part of me thinks Universal is not worried. You know, studios have studiest and tests for every movie. They knew what was coming. I'm sure they had seen the social media reaction and also the reaction of tests screenings. They just simply powered through it. I believe they're not that worried.. All they have to do is get another Fast and Furious or Jurassic World out and they'll be fine. Or any sequel or remake, really.

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Originally Posted by Brian81

Don't buy this. People said this about low budget special effects, but rarely does anyone prefer a DVD of a z-grade movie over an HD release.

The special effects excuse is dumb, not because Cats have bad special effects (it really doesn't, it's more average but in 2019 it's not a bad thing).. I think it'd benefit more from a 4K release because it was shot in 4K, period. There's no need to say it's because of the VFX.

ccateni · 12-31-2019, 06:02 PM

If only this got the strange magic treatment of dvd only...

ccateni · 12-31-2019, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PonyoBellanote

The special effects excuse is dumb, not because Cats have bad special effects (it really doesn't, it's more average but in 2019 it's not a bad thing).. I think it'd benefit more from a 4K release because it was shot in 4K, period. There's no need to say it's because of the VFX.

It's motion capture, not live action...
it was all animated via a computer after the actors did their parts with the motion capture...

PonyoBellanote · 12-31-2019, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ccateni

If only this got the strange magic treatment of dvd only...

That's not nice. Respect those who liked this movie, like me. People can be allowed to like what you deem garbage.

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Originally Posted by ccateni

It's motion capture, not live action...
it was all animated via a computer after the actors did their parts with the motion capture...

No, that's false. If it had been entirely mocapped and animated, it'd have looked much worse.

They did real sets, and there were real people; they had some sort of suits, but it wasn't the typical mo-cap with dots only, etc. The only digital enhancement made was the fur, tail and ears.

You're mistaking this with The Lion King-Jungle Book type of movie and this wasn't the case. It was live action. All they digitally added was background effects/details, and fur, tail and ears.. but the bodies and their movements, and their faces where the ones filmed as is.

TheBoss062 · 01-02-2020, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by PonyoBellanote

That's not nice. Respect those who liked this movie, like me. People can be allowed to like what you deem garbage.

No, that's false. If it had been entirely mocapped and animated, it'd have looked much worse.

CATS - Behind the Scenes - YouTube

They did real sets, and there were real people; they had some sort of suits, but it wasn't the typical mo-cap with dots only, etc. The only digital enhancement made was the fur, tail and ears.

You're mistaking this with The Lion King-Jungle Book type of movie and this wasn't the case. It was live action. All they digitally added was background effects/details, and fur, tail and ears.. but the bodies and their movements, and their faces where the ones filmed as is.

I don’t like this movie in spite of its flaws, I like it because of its flaws.

fighthefutureofhd · 01-02-2020, 05:51 PM

I don't like this movie in spit of its claws, I like this movie because of its claws.

Doombear · 01-02-2020, 06:54 PM

Anybody who enjoyed the stage show or the 1998 PBS version will likely love this one. It has a lot of added scenes and some re-interpretations. I really enjoyed it. Those going in blindly with no appreciation of showtunes might be quite disappointed. I love a lot of movies which reviewers hated.

Dubstar · 01-02-2020, 08:39 PM

personally, I'd hope Universal does what Disney does (in terms of their 3D titles) and releases the UHD in the UK market for parallel importing.

Geoff D · 01-03-2020, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu Cider

Heading for a $100 million loss at the box office according to Variety. How Universal must yearn for the glory days of Jurassic World and F&F 7.

Meh. Hobbs and Shaw still grossed three quarters of a billion, HTTYD3 half a billion, secret life of pets 2 $400M, Glass took $240M+ worldwide on a $20M budget and Us did pretty much the same. Universal haven't had a stellar 2019 but they've still taken two billion in global grosses which is more than what Fox and Paramount could manage combined. Cats bombing will put a big hole in their ledger for sure but even when Uni don't have any $1Bn bankers they're still putting out movies that are money making machines, those horror cheapies especially.

Sky_Captain · 01-03-2020, 01:15 AM

F&F 9 will make it all go away.

birdztudio · 01-03-2020, 01:19 AM

But why you want to make bad movie to begin with? Does that even make sense?

Geoff D · 01-03-2020, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sky_Captain

F&F 9 will make it all go away.

And then the inevitable Jurassic Furious crossover will make even more cheddar

01-03-2020, 01:19 AM	#139
birdztudio Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2010 Blu-ray collection:341 Trading Score:25	But why you want to make bad movie to begin with? Does that even make sense? Last edited by birdztudio; 01-03-2020 at 02:25 AM.

12-31-2019, 02:08 AM	#122
BenjaminG Power Member Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Australia 4K collection:516 Blu-ray collection:1089 Trading Score:33	Not seen the movie, but would not be too surprised if it became a success on video/streaming.

12-31-2019, 02:21 AM	#124
Lastyear Senior Member Member since:Mar 2011	My daughter works at an Emagine theater. They have had more walkouts and people asking for their money back than any other movie in the ten years she's worked there. It not just the critics who hate this film. Personally I dislike anything involving Andrew Lloyd Webber so I won't be seeing this.

12-31-2019, 11:50 AM	#126
PonyoBellanote Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Feb 2014 4K collection:254 Blu-ray collection:609 DVD collection:62 MA collection:15 Digital collection:16 iTunes collection:15 Prime collection:14 Blu-ray reviews:3	Can't understand why. But again, Cats has always been this thing, very succesful, though also hated in the mainstream. I legit think and will always think this movie has been unfairly treated and misunderstood.

12-31-2019, 11:54 AM	#127
Blu Cider Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2015 Location:Denmark Trading Score:118	Heading for a $100 million loss at the box office according to Variety. How Universal must yearn for the glory days of Jurassic World and F&F 7.

12-31-2019, 06:02 PM	#130
ccateni Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Sep 2015 Location:United States 4K collection:108 Blu-ray collection:193 Blu-ray reviews: 2	If only this got the strange magic treatment of dvd only...

01-02-2020, 05:51 PM	#134
fighthefutureofhd Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Dry County	I don't like this movie in spit of its claws, I like this movie because of its claws.

01-02-2020, 06:54 PM	#135
Doombear Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Apr 2012 Location:Calgary, Alberta Canada 4K collection:24 Blu-ray collection:2285 DVD collection:1727 Digital collection:2 Trading Score:13	Anybody who enjoyed the stage show or the 1998 PBS version will likely love this one. It has a lot of added scenes and some re-interpretations. I really enjoyed it. Those going in blindly with no appreciation of showtunes might be quite disappointed. I love a lot of movies which reviewers hated.

01-02-2020, 08:39 PM	#136
Dubstar Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:down at Fraggle Rock Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:201 Blu-ray collection:1953 DVD collection:304 MA collection:4 Digital collection:33 Trading Score:29	personally, I'd hope Universal does what Disney does (in terms of their 3D titles) and releases the UHD in the UK market for parallel importing.

01-03-2020, 01:15 AM	#138
Sky_Captain Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:17	F&F 9 will make it all go away.

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