The Italian Job 4K (1969) 55th Anniversary (UK)

[ko8ebryant24]

Kino UHD BL+FEL DV vs Paramount UHD BL+FEL DV

203 nits

Reminder:
Colors and luminance in tone-mapped HDR screenshots are not representative, only compare compression and detail.

https://slow.pics/c/jKPsPh03

[Dubliner1]

Originally Posted by frenchfreak

Hey,
any of you lucky owner of the paramount release could confirm the subtitles available on the disc match the back cover ? Weird the french sub have been left out...

thanx a lot.

I have the Italian Paramount release- no French subtitles.

[frenchfreak]

Originally Posted by Dubliner1

I have the Italian Paramount release- no French subtitles.

Damn!
Thanks a lot for the reply. Appreciate the info.

[SpacemanDoug]

Originally Posted by ko8ebryant24

Kino UHD BL+FEL DV vs Paramount UHD BL+FEL DV

203 nits

Reminder:
Colors and luminance in tone-mapped HDR screenshots are not representative, only compare compression and detail.

https://slow.pics/c/jKPsPh03

yep, this further proves that the Kino release is better encoded despite the weird hot grading, look at screenshot 13, Paramount's becomes a blocky mess and Kino's for the most part holds decently

and with the mono track being on Kino's release, that makes it overall the superior release

[Trekkie313]

Paramount gonna Paramount.

[John Earls Umbrella]

The Kino is horrible. Colours are all wrong.

[PonyoBellanote]

I'm still waiting for an european (non german, preferibly italian, or one that has English title) amaray.

[Brian81]

Originally Posted by SpacemanDoug

yep, this further proves that the Kino release is better encoded despite the weird hot grading, look at screenshot 13, Paramount's becomes a blocky mess and Kino's for the most part holds decently

and with the mono track being on Kino's release, that makes it overall the superior release

I'm with you on this, though it is for the audio. I can deal with a slightly off color if it means the original audio track is there. This isn't THEY LIVE where the audio track is present on both discs but one has colors that are off (I'd rather have Studio Canal THEY LIVE despite lesser compression).

[SpacemanDoug]

Originally Posted by John Earls Umbrella

The Kino is horrible. Colours are all wrong.

with the redeeming qualities of a better encode and OG audio (a rarity for Kino on both ends)

[grahams76]

Originally Posted by PonyoBellanote

I'm still waiting for an european (non german, preferibly italian, or one that has English title) amaray.

Not European, but:
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-I...lu-ray/363377/

[deadheadbill]

Well, it was impossible to get a consensus on this one between the 2 threads and there's no site review. So I just went with the import CE since it seemed to be thought of as closests to the original colors and I like CE's.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by SpacemanDoug

with the redeeming qualities of a better encode and OG audio (a rarity for Kino on both ends)

Whatever anyone thinks of the Paramount the Kino encode is still their usual set-and-forget mediocrity in itself. (Me, I still think the Paramount is encoded betterer and that's from having compared both in motion.)

[ronand]

The colours on the kino are so wrong I dont know why anyone would prefer it unless you are a colourblind kino fanboy.

[SpacemanDoug]

Originally Posted by ronand

The colours on the kino are so wrong I dont know why anyone would prefer it unless you are a colourblind kino fanboy.

OG audio, that's really the only major reason I have their release

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Whatever anyone thinks of the Paramount the Kino encode is still their usual set-and-forget mediocrity in itself. (Me, I still think the Paramount is encoded betterer and that's from having compared both in motion.)

I can at least live with the off colors, I just can't stand the remix

[Trekkie313]

It's like people here forget you can somewhat fix colors yourself now with multi-thousand dollar HTDVs and $500+ players.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Trekkie313

It's like people here forget you can somewhat fix colors yourself now with multi-thousand dollar HTDVs and $500+ players.

It's like some people here forget that twiddling a few knobs doesn't often unf*ck something that's as overcooked as the Kino UHD is

[deadheadbill]

Just watched my copy tonight and it looked great. The colors looked perfect to my eyes. Really enjoyed revisiting this gem.

[Nitroes]

Standard case:




That's a lot of subtitles.

https://hmv.com/store/film-tv/4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray/the-italian-job-(2)
https://www.rarewaves.com/products/5...alian-job-1969
https://planetofentertainment.com/th...ra-hd-blu-ray/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0DSWBJQYB/

[JackyJacquard]

Looking at whether or not to buy this, saw we only get the 5.1 “American dub” so I decided to check out the 2.0 on my KL 4K…”original mono” still has the ‘insurance bonus’ line so amazingly we don’t have a 4K release with the correct lines, never mind the other trickery that’s done to make 5.1 etc. from old movies. Insanity.

[JackyJacquard]

Finally watching the Paramount release - nabbed the German one for about £11 in a sale - and the whole thing just seems a bit dark to me?

For example when Charlie gets "caught on the job” in London I’ve always seen it as broad daylight but - despite very blue skies - it looks more like evening light.

Also I normally watch with my ‘OLED Pixel Brightness’ settings on my A2 at 50 or below in a dimly lit room, whereas I’ve got this at max brightness right now comfortably, but that’s a different type of darkness they’re not necessarily related

Of course this is a movie I’ve seen so many times on TV, VHS, then DVD without ever thinking about these things its possible I could be remembering wrong. Once the movie gets to Turin everything looks exactly how I remembered, only way better cause now its in 4K