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Old 03-13-2008, 05:08 PM   #121
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I think the trailer when viewed on the official site looks the best:

http://incrediblehulk.marvel.com/
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Old 03-13-2008, 05:17 PM   #122
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http://www.empireonline.com/features/hulk/1.asp

Pretty cool article. It's basically a scene by scene with the director talking about scenes in the trailer. What will hopefully shitcan all the hater rhetoric is that he says that not a single FX shot in this trailer is finished. He also gives an explanation as to the look of Abomination. I thought the X-Men costumes were pretty stupid until I saw the movie . . . then it made sense. Since then, I'm willing to take a LITTLE bit of bending as far as the look of things, since some things would just look stupid in the "real world."

I still don't know why they put the S symbol on Superman's belt in Superman Returns. Pointless change. And the symbol should have been bigger
Great find BStecke! I'm going to copy the article for the haters Even though some hate to hate and won't read it anyway.

Being faithful to the Hulk is much more difficult than say Iron Man, Spider-man, Batman, or Supes. With most characters it's the costume that's important, but with the Hulk, he's been drawn so many ways, (same goes for the Abomination) that it's impossible to be faithful to the material.
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" That’s Ty Burrell on the left playing Leonard Samson. Samson is a very famous comic-book character in the realm of Hulk. He’s the psycho-therapist who thinks he can cure Bruce Banner’s (Edward Norton) “illness” through psycho-therapy. And there’s a little bit of a one-on-one in our movie. Bruce’s struggle is the whole story of our movie — Universal did a really great job in putting this teaser together because it gives you the main information. That guy doesn’t want that superpower. It’s like Spider-Man: “My power, my curse.” He really doesn’t want that — it’s too big for him. This is Prometheus having the fire and not wanting it anymore. He opened the door to an uber-power and wants to get rid of it."

" You’ll see Bruce Banner transform in minute three. (Laughs) Minute three! That’s what’s good about it and it was really important when I was accepting the movie. We're not treating it as an origin movie but: Bruce Banner stepping into his chair and the gamma bomb and everything. He’s the Hulk already, with the Hulk within him, and you get to understand how he came to be in this situation, his struggle in life, the other characters surrounding him and the enemies that he deals with and fights with."

" That’s how he tries to control the beast within: breathing exercises, Brazilian jujitsu, stuff like that. We pick him up in the movie when he’s in Brazil and he’s trying to keep the monsters at bay, literally. Both the monster inside and the army chasing after him to harness his monster — to create a supersoldier. So he uses Brazilian jujitsu and yoga and meditation techniques to keep the monster inside of him, And, also, if someone picks a fight with him, he’s using that Brazilian jujitsu because jujitsu and aikido are more elusive martial arts — he’s deflecting the blows so he can run away and not get involved. He’s not a superhero, he’s not Jason Bourne. He’s the anti-James Bond, the anti-Jason Bourne. He’s really the guy that doesn’t want the fight. Unfortunately, as you can see from the teaser, he sucks at avoiding it!"

" This is the first big Hulk-out and it’s guys picking a fight with Banner and cornering him. We’ve got this huge action sequence in a bottling factory, which has got everything a good fight needs: soda, glass and big metal tanks. (Laughs) No, it’s cool. It’s really like Ghost And The Darkness, the feel, where you only glimpse Hulk and it’s really scary. Like Alien, where you think you’re seeing the Hulk but it’s not the Hulk — it’s a tank. You think you’re seeing a tank and it’s Hulk. I mean, there are some nice, interesting things. It was a nice test to start the visual effects with this scene — to get a beautiful silhouette of the Hulk and beautiful textures for his skin, things like that."

" General Ross (William Hurt) has a great line in the movie: “Banner was an accident and something went really wrong — or really right.” He loves that thing and he wants to control it, to harvest it. He has another speech where he talks about the splitting of the atom: fire, the universe opens and there is a new force — and somebody has to step up to the plate and not cower away from this thing but grab it. He’s the Ahab of this story, this alienated guy craving that power. He’s alienated himself from the army and his family, because he’s obsessing about only one thing: the Hulk, the Hulk, the Hulk."

" Tim Roth is Emil Blonsky, who becomes Abomination. He’s an ace, but he’s an ace that is kind of over the hill. I really wanted to work with Tim Roth; he’s an amazing actor and he’s extraordinary on the screen. When I met Tim I was like, “God!” He was so good and had so much energy that I said, “Blomsky must be Tim Roth.” I had to push — Marvel, Edward, everybody was hesitant to get Tim, but he really added a new dimension to the character. He is the opposite of Bruce Banner — he’s a fighter, he’s a machine, he’s a very effective, cool-as-a-cucumber soldier that is over the hill – 38, 39 years old – has finished his life as a soldier, should be a Colonel by now and has never accepted that failure. He loves being a fighter, loves being on the field."

I really wanted to justify [Abomination’s] appearance. I really wanted to wrap my head around the original scaley-with-big-ears monster that was in the comic book, but I couldn’t justify it. The guy isn’t crossed with a fish; he’s not crossed with a lizard. Just like the Hulk he’s an über-human — his body, everything, grows out. And the way he gets injected with the serum, he’s shot in the skin and the muscles, and shot inside the spine. That makes his bones grow thicker and bigger and longer, making him a super-weapon. So he’s got that spine that flares out, which becomes a weapon. He’s got elbows that stick out and become these martial arts, Chinese knives — things that can slash back and forth. He’s got this tongue thing and the heel-spikes… so he’s a killing machine. It’s pretty cool, it’s funny. He’s got bones sticking out, so it becomes like an exo-skeleton which he uses as armour..."

" ...What might throw you off [about Abomination’s colour] in the trailer is that there’s fire. Since there are lots of layers of skin and he’s kind of transparent, he reflects whatever’s around him. Since both he and Hulk are gamma monsters, they both have to be gamma green. He’s brand-new, he’s a new monster, so he’s unstable and not perfectly green, but he’s still very green. If you look at him in broad daylight, he looks like the animation from the comic book, that darker, deeper green. If I were to show you a picture of the Hulk in that street at the end, when they’re running at each other, there’s so much fire around them that he looks like an orange monster. But he’s not an orange monster — he’s green."

" Betty (Liv Tyler) is obviously his love interest, but because it’s not an origin story she’s also his soulmate. She is the only woman. He can have potential new loves — like in Brazil, you’ll see this beautiful girl that flirts with him – but he has one love and that’s Betty and he’s not focusing on other people. Betty is the one. But she’s not only his saviour; she’s his demise. Like every good female character in a comic book, it’s because of her that the hero is chased by the villain. And by coming too close to her, he’s going to risk getting caught."

" [We released the trailer quite late because] no shots are finished yet. That’s why we took so long to release the teaser, because unlike the other movies coming out this summer, our main character relies on so much calculation and technique. None of the shots in this trailer are finished shots, but I think it’s decent enough and it shows the audience what we’re going for. There’s a different version of the teaser that will only be shown in movie theatres where you see a close-up of the Hulk’s face as he comes out of the darkness and cries to [Betty]. A full close-up, like full-screen. And until we had that shot right I didn’t want to release it. That’s why it took so long for us…I never saw that Superbowl spot [that drew criticism of Ang Lee’s film for showing Hulk unfinished]. I’ve asked for it and they’ve said, “No, no, you don’t want to see that.” (Laughs) Anyway, I would have never allowed anything to come out that I wasn’t happy with."

This sequence is toward the end of the movie. But our final scene, our final battle – unlike a normal movie where the final fight scene is six minutes long, ours is 26 minutes long! So you get 26 minutes of two monsters pummelling each other through New York City, jumping up and down, ripping helicopters from the sky and stuff. You know, lots of green blood on the street, splashed all around. So it’s pretty cool. For me it was one of the most exciting elements of making the movie: ‘I have two monsters fighting in New York City, that’s going to be fun.’ You know, how do you come up with fun, original stuff? And you’ve seen just the beginning of the face-off, with the monsters running towards each other — BOOM! — they smash into each other, and then craziness ensues. Some humans try to get out of the way but no, they can’t… there’s a little bit of collateral damage! (Laughs) There’s a bit of a bodycount. Not on account of the Hulk — the Hulk’s a saviour — but Blomsky is ruthless."

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Old 03-13-2008, 06:10 PM   #124
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Have you been working on that this whole time?
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Old 03-13-2008, 06:13 PM   #125
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I think the trailer when viewed on the official site looks the best:

http://incrediblehulk.marvel.com/
I agree.
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Old 03-13-2008, 06:14 PM   #126
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Have you been working on that this whole time?
Nah, I started it, then had stuff to do. It was just cut and paste.
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Old 03-13-2008, 07:16 PM   #127
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The comic book panes weren't the problem. It was the poorly conceived plot that had nothing to do with any Hulk comic, ever, mixed with the melodramatic Nick Nolte, Hulk dogs , and lack of action from a very action-oriented super-hero. And the HORRIBLE sounds the Hulk made . . . that really disappointed me. In the international trailer, when he jumps out of the tank and let's go with that roar, I got goosebumps. When I saw it in theatre and it was more like a "GAAAH!!!", I laughed . . . and almost cried
I was trying to figure out why I didn't like Hulk 2003, this is as good an explanation as I could have said. Secondly, who's to say that the roar in the movie is going to sound like it does in the trailer? That was the problem last time, isn't that what you're saying. About the movie though, Tim Roth is always one of the best bad guys, liv tyler as the choice for betty ross is a little dissappointing. If the first did one thing right, it was casting Jennifer Connelly, she needs to be in more movies <---smokin' hot!!!
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Old 03-13-2008, 07:20 PM   #128
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I was trying to figure out why I didn't like Hulk 2003, this is as good an explanation as I could have said. Secondly, who's to say that the roar in the movie is going to sound like it does in the trailer? That was the problem last time, isn't that what you're saying. About the movie though, Tim Roth is always one of the best bad guys, liv tyler as the choice for betty ross is a little dissappointing. If the first did one thing right, it was casting Jennifer Connelly, she needs to be in more movies <---smokin' hot!!!
I think they've got the idea of what the Hulk is down for this one . . . they describe him as a monster, and I have faith that he'll sound like one. I'm not 100% thrilled about Liv Tyler either, but then again I always think of her in Empire Records I was also expecting to miss Sam Elliot (which I still do, I love that guy), but William hurt certainly looks and sounds the part.
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Old 03-13-2008, 07:28 PM   #129
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I think they've got the idea of what the Hulk is down for this one . . . they describe him as a monster, and I have faith that he'll sound like one. I'm not 100% thrilled about Liv Tyler either, but then again I always think of her in Empire Records I was also expecting to miss Sam Elliot (which I still do, I love that guy), but William hurt certainly looks and sounds the part.
I think elliot fits the part better than Hurt. Hurt is a fine actor but elliot nailed it.

The one i'm gutted about is Norton. In my opinion just not the right part for him, they need someone slightly older, a bit more wisdom.Hugh Jackman could have been good, but theres the obvious stigma of Wolverine, or even Kevin Costner (if he was on form!)
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Old 03-13-2008, 07:31 PM   #130
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I still don't know why they put the S symbol on Superman's belt in Superman Returns. Pointless change. And the symbol should have been bigger
I agree 100%! The shield was waaaay too small and the belt was definitely a pointless change. Maybe someday we will get a proper looking Superman for the new era...
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Old 03-13-2008, 07:41 PM   #131
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What happen to the original Hulk?
It sucked


Sorry couldn't help it
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Old 03-13-2008, 07:43 PM   #132
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I'm with you.
Me too. I appreciate the fact that Hulk tried to differentiate itself from most of the purely kinetic actionfest comic book adaptations, while still retaining the look and feel of a comic book. So many people have complained that Hulk was too much of a downer, and too thoughtful. I will admit though, the father/son battle at the end got a bit squirrely plot wise.

I guess they never read much of the actual comic books to realize how much thought provocation they really carry.

Still, I'm a big Edward Norton fan, and I hope they pull it off.

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Old 03-13-2008, 08:00 PM   #133
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Well,

I liked Ang Lee's version.

But,.. I tend to get all the comic book hero movies,.. they are usually fun.

Thing is,.. I'm kind of bummed out seeing this trailer because it looks like it's mainly hulk vs something that look a whole lot like the hulk. Making that interesting is going to be a trick.

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Old 03-13-2008, 08:12 PM   #134
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Wow. Hollywood has officially dried up with creatively. We're already remaking remakes?!

When the remake of the last Superman movie coming out. That thing SUCKED!

Hollywood sucks... this has officially motivated me to write my screenplay.
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26 minutes of fight scene in the end. Wow, that's going to be fantastic. I liked how the battle started in the trailer.
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:28 PM   #136
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well the new hulk looks incredibly crispy.... im glad this looks better than the one with eric bana because i watched the first 5 minutes of that movie and i wanted to kill myself... i rather have watched movies like the atonement, or even a freakin romeo juliet play than that piece of crap

sorry but i just really hated that hulk movie
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Well, i have the same feelings about Hulk as i do about Juggernaut. These are 2 characters that simply can't be done without doing them in CGI. Most of your other good/bad guys in comics are all basically just a person in a suit...maybe some make-up. Hulk and Jugs are FREAKIN HUGE. Casting Bullet Tooth Tony in XMen 3 (tho he is quite muscular) is no where NEAR as big as Jugs should have been. Same with Hulk. He needs to be big. Bigger then an average person, even shot with size differentiation like the Hobbits in LOTR only in reverse. I've got good hopes for this, but I'll wait till I see a finished and polished trailer before the movie comes out before I start criticizing on the CGI. A friend of mine used to work for ILM and I saw some shots of what movies looked like even 2 weeks before going to print and what was on the final screen. The difference is incredible. :P
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:53 PM   #138
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WOOW!!!
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Old 03-14-2008, 09:00 AM   #139
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Wow. Hollywood has officially dried up with creatively. We're already remaking remakes?!

When the remake of the last Superman movie coming out. That thing SUCKED!

Hollywood sucks... this has officially motivated me to write my screenplay.
I can't wait to read that
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It sucked


Sorry couldn't help it
I have to disagree,i have seen worst movies the the Ang Lee Hulk,with the first hulk they try to do too much things with the hulk origin and that's what kinda a screwed it up.If you follow the comic's its not a difficult origin to follow and they should have left that the way it was and just go with it.
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