Gamera: The Complete Collection (1965-2006)

[NR1]

[Partyslammer]

Originally Posted by Mecha74

Does anyone know if any other Arrow or for that matter any other movie release on disc ever had a sellout/demand comparable to this?

There’s been numerous very limited run Blu-ray releases with special packaging or statues, toys, etc through the years that quickly sold out and command astronomical reseller prices. Releases like the Matrix collection housed in the Nebuchadnezzar ship, the Blade Runner gun display or the Alien Quadralogy in the Alien bust.

But nothing like this that was basically a standard retail release, ever though it’s a large box set with a somewhat small production run.

[Mecha74]

Originally Posted by Partyslammer

There’s been numerous very limited run Blu-ray releases with special packaging or statues, toys, etc through the years that quickly sold out and command astronomical reseller prices. Releases like the Matrix collection housed in the Nebuchadnezzar ship, the Blade Runner gun display or the Alien Quadralogy in the Alien bust.

But nothing like this that was basically a standard retail release, ever though it’s a large box set with a somewhat small production run.

Okay, thanks for the info.

I could've swore that I read either in this thread or somewhere else that they actually tried to get Gamera 4 Truth for this collection. Does anyone know that for a fact? And if they did what stopped it, Kadokawa, Hayashiya himself, or something else?

[omgitsgodzilla]

Originally Posted by Mecha74

Okay, thanks for the info.

I could've swore that I read either in this thread or somewhere else that they actually tried to get Gamera 4 Truth for this collection. Does anyone know that for a fact? And if they did what stopped it, Kadokawa, Hayashiya himself, or something else?

They asked Kadokawa and they pretty much shot it down right away for some sort of legal reasons. Arrow didn't press the matter.

[Mecha74]

Originally Posted by omgitsgodzilla

They asked Kadokawa and they pretty much shot it down right away for some sort of legal reasons. Arrow didn't press the matter.

Ah, I see. Thanks for the info.

[chriszilla]

Originally Posted by steve_dave

Strict print runs.

For collectibles like statues or Hot Toys/Star Ace figures, you have a really narrow window to get a replacement for hot selling/limited items...

But that example doesn't really apply here, as far as the discs themselves are concerned. Limited edition figurines/art prints/etc may need to have strictly limited quantities, but for Arrow not to arrange for an extra 50 (or so) of each Blu-ray disc strikes me as poor planning. If a customer receives a defective disc (or in the case of Batman Professor, two copies of one disc and zero of another), you'd think they would want to have a limited number of extras on hand to be able to take care of customer problems. That's just common sense. Even moreso when Arrow have indicated they are planning a non-limited edition in the near future, which will likely feature the same discs, since they've already stated that the disc content will not be changing.

If Arrow have a legitimate reason for why they have ZERO extra stock of the actual discs, I'd love to hear what it is...

[skippy3elf]

Originally Posted by chriszilla

But that example doesn't really apply here, as far as the discs themselves are concerned. Limited edition figurines/art prints/etc may need to have strictly limited quantities, but for Arrow not to arrange for an extra 50 (or so) of each Blu-ray disc strikes me as poor planning. If a customer receives a defective disc (or in the case of Batman Professor, two copies of one disc and zero of another), you'd think they would want to have a limited number of extras on hand to be able to take care of customer problems. That's just common sense. Even moreso when Arrow have indicated they are planning a non-limited edition in the near future, which will likely feature the same discs, since they've already stated that the disc content will not be changing.

If Arrow have a legitimate reason for why they have ZERO extra stock of the actual discs, I'd love to hear what it is...

Agree. Further - they should probably have better quality control to begin with. This isn't even a situation anyone should find themselves in. You buy something, you expect it to be what you paid for.

Additionally, the limited-ness really has nothing to do with a company not-standing behind their product. When PowerHouse/Indicator released their *limited edition* sinbad sets a few years back it was discovered there was an encoding error on one of the discs. They sent anyone who had purchased the set with the bad disc a replacement free of charge. All you had to do was send them a picture proving that you owned it.

[chriszilla]

Originally Posted by skippy3elf

Agree. Further - they should probably have better quality control to begin with. This isn't even a situation anyone should find themselves in. You buy something, you expect it to be what you paid for.

Well, when you're putting together 8,000 sets, mistakes are bound to happen. I'm sure Batman Professor wasn't the only one who had one of the discs missing. And it stands to reason that there will be a few scattered defective discs here and there.

[starsteam]

I don't know all of the end and outs of disc manufacturing but it always sounds like most factories only allow units in the thousand range because of costs reasons. If they pressed 8000 units then they got exactly 8000 units - but I don't really know if that includes the test samples and review copies. What if a disc gets damaged during manufacturing? With box sets like this if even one disc goes missing or is defective then it affects an entire set. And if copies arrived damaged before they're even sent out to retailers, then wouldn't they be able to replace a few missing discs for customers? Do they destroy the damaged sets instead?? With so many factors I don't see how they can actually rely on a set number like 8000.

Sometimes when I have a broken/defective disc in a TV series box set and request a replacement disc, I have either A) Received a full copy of the entire season as a replacement or B) Have to wait months for them to get a set from the warehouse and then they send me just the disc I need (and presumingly keep the rest of the discs). Only in wide cases do they seem to order a large amount of replacement discs (like when there's a authoring defect that affects everybody's copy).

But hey, if they ever decide to issue a replacement for Gamera the Brave that fixes the dub sync issue there's your chance to make a claim

[hariseldon]

Originally Posted by skippy3elf

Agree. Further - they should probably have better quality control to begin with. This isn't even a situation anyone should find themselves in. You buy something, you expect it to be what you paid for.
.

So which replication plant is responsible for hte QC? I think Sony is likely the culprit though Arrow certainly is going to get the Buck Stop Here effect.

Arrow almost certainly never sees anything beyond the test sets -- once that's approved, the replication and assembly are very likely outside of Arrow eyesight. Not sure if these type sets are hand assembled or if there is some automated system that can place the disc in the pockets. I can imagine there is some way a machine could insert the discs and then the 3 books in the large slipbox before the shrinkwrap is applie

[skippy3elf]

Originally Posted by hariseldon

So which replication plant is responsible for hte QC? I think Sony is likely the culprit though Arrow certainly is going to get the Buck Stop Here effect.

Arrow almost certainly never sees anything beyond the test sets -- once that's approved, the replication and assembly are very likely outside of Arrow eyesight. Not sure if these type sets are hand assembled or if there is some automated system that can place the disc in the pockets. I can imagine there is some way a machine could insert the discs and then the 3 books in the large slipbox before the shrinkwrap is applie

As you said - "the buck stops [there]." Arrow is selling the product so I consider them responsible at the end of the day. If we believe its so common for things to go wrong in the process then better quality control and a backup plan for standing behind the product go hand in hand with that. 8000 sets isn't a lot. Its considered a premium product and its coming in at a premium price. Sure its being manufactured by a 3rd party, but its already a non-standard product with a non-standard process so I'm sure there are any number of places where they can insert some QC. I'm not even convinced these discs are being put into the sleeves by a machine in which case human involvement is already part of the process. Not planning ahead for the possibility of having to replace defective parts is the same as assuming the process is perfect (either that or its a statement that they really just don't care), so they either need to make it perfect (which isn't likely), or they need the ability to fix it when things go wrong. Either way an ethical business stands behind its product.

[bradenklune]

Arrived safely from Amazon UK via DHL. This isn't a comment that I normally make, but I really like the smell of this package . I don't know if it's the ink of the comics or the glue but it's a pleasant fragrance.
Smells like summer!
It's a big box, but the Godzilla Criterion set remains the only one too big to fit on any of my shelves.

[Gold Ranger]

Okay, so a standard set is coming, what is going to be different?

[The Batman Professor]

No books, no maps, probable split into two or more volumes is my guess.

[bigshot]

Amazon came through with my Ring box set after that had been long sold out. It's worth it. Otherwise, you can buy the version without a book. It isn't worth fretting about.

[Nintengo64]

Starting to worry again. I ordered my set from Amazon UK last August 22 and chose the fastest shipping speed. It's been a week and my order still hasn't shipped out.

[DaveyJoe]

Originally Posted by starsteam

I don't know all of the end and outs of disc manufacturing but it always sounds like most factories only allow units in the thousand range because of costs reasons. If they pressed 8000 units then they got exactly 8000 units - but I don't really know if that includes the test samples and review copies. What if a disc gets damaged during manufacturing? With box sets like this if even one disc goes missing or is defective then it affects an entire set. And if copies arrived damaged before they're even sent out to retailers, then wouldn't they be able to replace a few missing discs for customers? Do they destroy the damaged sets instead?? With so many factors I don't see how they can actually rely on a set number like 8000.

They could manufacture 8,000 disks and sell 7,900. Reserving 100 for replacements.

[starsteam]

Well here's a surprise: MST3K vs Gamera DVD set is back in print. No new packaging (not even a new listing) it's just back up for sale.
https://www.shoutfactory.com/product...roduct_id=6007

[hanshotfirst1138]

Jesus Christ, it’s sounds like it’s a miracle that I got my copy at all. Which disc is supposedly defective? Now I’ll have to open it and check.

[RalphoR]

Originally Posted by liljon2137

Check out xebec_61 on eBay. They have custom Blu Ray cases for this and the Godzilla Criterion collection sets, along with many others. If they do not list them, you can message them from my understanding and they'll do them for you.

Thanks! I ordered it